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Does "HANOI JANE" deserve "Woman of the Century"?
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Windwalker



Joined: 22 Oct 2005
Posts: 2773
Location: Holiday, FL

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 3:09 pm    Post subject: Does "HANOI JANE" deserve "Woman of the Centu  

It seems Barbara Walters is about to slap the faces of everyone that served to defend the freedom of our country, the faces of those that lost loved ones in Viet Nam, and children that will never know their real fathers.

Please read this:

IF YOU NEVER FORWARDED ANYTHING IN YOU LIFE FORWARD THIS SO THAT EVERYONE WILL KNOW!!!!!!.......
She really is a traitor

A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA

This is for all the kids born in the 70's who do
not remember, and didn't have to bear the
burden that our fathers, mothers and older
brothers and sisters had to bear.

Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the
"100 Women of the Century."

BY BARBRA WALTERS


Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still
countless others have never known how Ms.
Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country,
but specific men who served and sacrificed
during Vietnam.

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot

The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat.

In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF
Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison
the "Hanoi Hilton."

Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell,
cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was
ordered to describe for a visiting American
"Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane
treatment" he'd received.

He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was
dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward
on to the camp Commandant's feet, which
sent that officer berserk.

In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from
double vision (which permanently ended his
flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied
application of a wooden baton.

From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the
47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the
"Hanoi Hilton",,, the first three of which his
family only knew he was "missing in action".
His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.
His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and
clothed routine in preparation for a
"peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to
get word to the world that they were alive
and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny
piece of paper, with his Social Security Number
on it, in the palm of his hand.

When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a
cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each
man's hand and asking little encouraging
snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed
babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane
treatment from your benevolent captors?"
Believing this HAD to be an act, they each
palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the
end of the line and once the camera stopped
rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs,
she turned to the officer in charge and handed
him all the little pieces of paper.

Three men died from the subsequent beatings.
Colonel Carrigan was almost number four
but he survived, which is the only reason we
know of her actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor
in Vietnam, and was captured by the North
Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in
1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.

I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one
year in a cage in Cambodia; and one year
in a "black box" in Hanoi.
My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a
nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South
Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the
Cambodian border.
At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs.
(My normal weight is 170 lbs.)

We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by
the camp communist political officer if I would
be willing to meet with her.

I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real
treatment we POWs received... and how
different it was from the treatment purported by
the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as
"humane and lenient."

Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky
floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched
with a large steel weights placed on my hands,
and beaten with a bamboo cane.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda
soon after I was released. I asked her
if she would be willing to debate me on TV.
She never did answer me.

These first-hand experiences do not exemplify
someone who should be honored as part
of "100 Years of Great Women."
Lest we forget..." 100 Years of Great Women"
should never include a traitor whose hands are
covered with the blood of so many patriots.

There are few things I have strong visceral
reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in
blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many
people as you possibly can.
It will eventually end up on her computer and
she needs to know that we will never forget.
RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF
716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of
Maintenance
DSN: 875-6431
COMM: 883-6343

PLEASE HELP BY SENDING THIS TO
EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. IF
ENOUGH PEOPLE SEE THIS MAYBE HER
STATUS WILL CHANGE
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yoopr



Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 12866

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject:  

I was in Vietnam and of COURSE the Answer is HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NOOOOOOO.
she's a B....... and up to her Old tricks again-Hollywierd at it's Finest.
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rikki_359



Joined: 28 Jan 2006
Posts: 134
Location: N of Ft Worth, TX

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:40 pm    Post subject:  

She should be SHOT ON SITE!!!
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Midnight Flyer



Joined: 08 Feb 2005
Posts: 1184
Location: Wandering around the Ozark mountains of Western Arkansas

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:51 am    Post subject:  

yoopr wrote: I was in Vietnam and of COURSE the Answer is HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NOOOOOOO.
she's a B....... and up to her Old tricks again-Hollywierd at it's Finest.

:D You got that right, Yoop!! I had several real good friends that went to Nam and didn't come back except in a box. :cry:
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kimahri1114



Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 425
Location: Texas

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:32 am    Post subject:  

um, this lady has a bad rap. I don't know too much about her. Guess she did something raunchy. Could some one go into more detail about her for me please?
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Ridge Runner



Joined: 18 Oct 2004
Posts: 2426
Location: North Ga.

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:01 am    Post subject:  

kimahri1114 wrote: um, this lady has a bad rap. I don't know too much about her. Guess she did something raunchy. Could some one go into more detail about her for me please?

Dang, your making me feel old :lol: Do a Google search of her and nam. I'm sure there is plenty out there on the subject. Better yet see if you can work it into a school assignment. Even better, BETTER yet. Learn ALL you can about U.S. History! Not just the glossed over, P.C. Readers Digest verison of it but the indepth REAL verison of it. It will serve you well thru your whole life.
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kimahri1114



Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 425
Location: Texas

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:32 am    Post subject:  

Ok, I will. Sorry I never can remember to google stuff. I am kinda lazy so thats why I was asking you guys. I guess that laziness has to go huh?
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Ridge Runner



Joined: 18 Oct 2004
Posts: 2426
Location: North Ga.

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:35 pm    Post subject:  

kimahri1114 wrote: Ok, I will. Sorry I never can remember to google stuff. I am kinda lazy so thats why I was asking you guys. I guess that laziness has to go huh?

And ME being lazy is why I didn't answer your question. :lol:
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LandstarPhil



Joined: 27 Jan 2007
Posts: 8
Location: Ohio, USA

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject: Hanoi Jane  

I guess i could sum it up from and old Saturday Night Live skit.

Jane, you ignorant slut !!!!!!!!!

She deserves to be drawn and quartered. It was bad enough to come home to the hatred received from the general population, but to have a celebrity over there condemning us for being there was a kick in the nutz. Too bad SHE wasn't drafted. The she could have been shot for being a traitor .

Have a GREAT day !
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Mack2



Joined: 02 Jan 2007
Posts: 527
Location: North Carolina

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject:  

She should be shot.

Probably the only person in the world I really hate.
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Colin



Joined: 19 Jan 2005
Posts: 1382
Location: Kennewick, WA

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject:  

Pretty funny bringing up this old thread. Even funnier how the organized attack against Jane Fonda was started.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa110399.htm

Both Driscoll and Carrigan mentioned in the e-mail never met Jane Fonda.
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glasman2



Joined: 02 Dec 2006
Posts: 495
Location: Tri-Cities Washington

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:09 am    Post subject:  

Colin wrote: Pretty funny bringing up this old thread. Even funnier how the organized attack against Jane Fonda was started.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa110399.htm

Both Driscoll and Carrigan mentioned in the e-mail never met Jane Fonda. In 1988 she delivered a televised apology to Vietnam veterans and their families, a gesture that didn't mollify everyone but established some distance between the new Fonda and old Fonda, whose actions, she finally admitted, had been "thoughtless and careless."

Quoted from that website ^

Your close to my age arn't you? Don't you remember the News Reels of her doing this? I know I've seen them and remember them well.

This would be a slap in the face for every American if she gets this award.
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Colin



Joined: 19 Jan 2005
Posts: 1382
Location: Kennewick, WA

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:35 am    Post subject:  

Colin wrote: Pretty funny bringing up this old thread. Even funnier how the organized attack against Jane Fonda was started.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa110399.htm

Both Driscoll and Carrigan mentioned in the e-mail never met Jane Fonda.
glasman2 wrote: In 1988 she delivered a televised apology to Vietnam veterans and their families, a gesture that didn't mollify everyone but established some distance between the new Fonda and old Fonda, whose actions, she finally admitted, had been "thoughtless and careless."

Quoted from that website ^

Your close to my age arn't you? Don't you remember the News Reels of her doing this? I know I've seen them and remember them well.

This would be a slap in the face for every American if she gets this award.

I didn't state she was without fault. I was trying to point out this bogus e-mail that was flying around the country.

I'm 34 and didn't even know who she was until the mid 80's.

She already got the award in 1998. Have your welts subsided yet? 8)
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yoopr



Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 12866

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:45 pm    Post subject:  

She's gone from Hanoi Jane to Jihad Jane
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Colin



Joined: 19 Jan 2005
Posts: 1382
Location: Kennewick, WA

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject:  

yoopr wrote: She's gone from Hanoi Jane to Jihad Jane

What? Because some bloggers say so? :roll:

Don't those bloggers have something better to do, like not dividing this country even more than it already is? No matter how stupid her comments, no matter what she says, it's not treason until she's charged with the crime.
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