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Slimland
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:34 am Post subject: Israel? |
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| Do you think Israel will do a pre-empted strike against Iran? Do you think the world will get involved? |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:37 am Post subject: |
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The World already IS Involved-Even France :P Where have you Been?
I guarantee you that the US is talking to Israel Constantly about this right now and asking the Israelis to slow down a bit and not Hit the bastard where he lives BUT the US will be first ones there if his Idle threats become Military threats.
Understanding the situation in the Middle East Israel can't be the Ones to hit them unless it depends on the Survival of Israel.
Should Asassinate the Idiot but I didn't say that :P |
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Slimland
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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yoopr wrote: The World already IS Involved-Even France :P Where have you Been?
I guarantee you that the US is talking to Israel Constantly about this right now and asking the Israelis to slow down a bit and not Hit the bastard where he lives BUT the US will be first ones there if his Idle threats become Military threats.
Understanding the situation in the Middle East Israel can't be the Ones to hit them unless it depends on the Survival of Israel.
Should Asassinate the Idiot but I didn't say that :P
I knew they where involved, I guess I should have been more clear. What I meant was if Israel strikes, do you think that could be WWIII? Sorry yoopr I should have been more clear, I am actualy following this pretty close. |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Another way to Look at it, if you followed Desert Storm and Iraq was Lobbing their Scud Missles into Israel, was that Israel Didn't respond to it(That had to be TOUGH) because it would have made an Explosive situation(Literally) into Armeggedon(sp) and I feel that Israel and the World knows this. Israel's Patience with this kind of stuff amazes me.
Hope you understand my response |
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BikerDad
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Its unlikely Israel will launch a pre-emptive strike this time around. Iran has learned from Iraq's Basra misfortune.
The Iranian program is dispersed, hidden and buried, making it very unlikely that a single strike could take it out.
The Iranian's have more extensive air defenses than Iraq had, and they're probably on alert.
The Iranian's certainly have folks watching the Israeli airfields for signs of a strike, reducing/eliminating the force multiplier of surprise.
Most important: Everybody in the world knows that it is unlikely the Israeli's could get a strike in without the United States knowing about it. We own the airspace over the Persian Gulf. Unless we've transferred some F-117s or B-2s to Israel, they don't have stealthy enough aircraft to sneak through. Which means we either have to stop them coming through, or join in to boost the chance of success.
Either way, counting on the Israelis to deal with this problem for us is unrealistic. |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Israel could, and would,handle it very easily-It's just that the Middle East wouldn't stand for Israel going after their crazy Muslim brothers. |
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kimahri1114
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I voted yes. I know, I am 15, but hey, I keep up with the news and stuff going on. I just feel that a world war is growing close. |
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Slimland
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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yoopr wrote: Another way to Look at it, if you followed Desert Storm and Iraq was Lobbing their Scud Missles into Israel, was that Israel Didn't respond to it(That had to be TOUGH) because it would have made an Explosive situation(Literally) into Armeggedon(sp) and I feel that Israel and the World knows this. Israel's Patience with this kind of stuff amazes me.
Hope you understand my response
I understand completly, The main reson I ask is there defense minister said they where looking at the possibility. I know this has been a posibility for a while. |
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Slimland
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I think both yoopr and biker dad have very good points. But like yoopr I believe that Israel has the capability to handle just about anything thrown against her. And too deal double. |
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Slimland
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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kimahri1114 wrote: I voted yes. I know, I am 15, but hey, I keep up with the news and stuff going on. I just feel that a world war is growing close.
You, your feelings just may be right.
" To sift the nations with the sieve of futility; And there shall be a bridle in the jaws of the people, Causing them to err." |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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Our Intelligence in the US is Great but the Intelligence agencies in Israel are beyond belief.
I KNOW that P........ President in Iran is baiting us but for the Life of me I can't understand why. I don't think he really wants to be a Martyr :P
Maybe he DOES want to start Armageddon |
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Slimland
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:49 am Post subject: |
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yoopr wrote: Our Intelligence in the US is Great but the Intelligence agencies in Israel are beyond belief.
I KNOW that P........ President in Iran is baiting us but for the Life of me I can't understand why. I don't think he really wants to be a Martyr :P
Maybe he DOES want to start Armageddon
Well He did say he was trying to get things ready for his messiah. Who knows! Maybe he is trying to. I just think this is going to brew outta control, matter of fact, I believe it already is and that time will tell.
But I would almost be certain if he does get nuclear capability he will attack Israel, and I don't think he will be alone.
What ya think yoopr? |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:11 am Post subject: |
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If he can get a nuclear weapon there's no doubt, in my military mind :P , that he'll use it. I guarantee Sadaam would have but Israel hit it before that could happen.
These Muslim Terrorists are NUTS |
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bulldog2036
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| Mr. Yoopr, with all due respect, U.S. intelligence is a joke as is homeland security..I live on the border of Mexico and Texas and it would blow your mind how easy it is for a Mexican to cross over...now can you imagine what well financed, well trained terror fanatics can do by just getting through this "security" ? It not unfathomable to believe that they have not crossed over already via this avenue. Not to mention the tunnels that were recently discovered in California. Sorry to get off the original thread a bit but I needed to address the lack of urgency on the part of our government in respect to our southern border....bd |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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One of the Few things I disagree with President Bush on is the Border issue.Canada lets ANYBODY in and then they're coming through on the Northern and Southern Border.
BUT, you KNOW that there are probably THOUSANDS of times that we haven't heard of where Terrorist Plans have been stopped.
Terrorists have to be Lucky ONCE-We have to be Right 100% of the Time. |
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