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rjk



Joined: 21 Nov 2005
Posts: 8

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:19 pm    Post subject: zero tolerance?  

I just started school for my CDL today- and realized it's probably all wasted $, because I have 3 misdeameanor (NOT felony) convictions for possession of drugs. They are from 1998-99 but I seem to be ineligible for hire. Does anyone know if this is the response I'll get across the board? I've talked to all the major companies I can think of.
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yoopr



Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 12865

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:35 pm    Post subject:  

I'm assuming Yes-when they look at that record I'm assuming they're(the Companies) gonna think you didn't learn anything.
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rjk



Joined: 21 Nov 2005
Posts: 8

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:50 pm    Post subject:  

this is pretty bad. i dont quite understand how someone with a 3 year old DUI can get a trucking job but i cannot. i was hoping enough time had passed. the convictions were ridiculous, yes, but i've never tested positive on a drug test and have been clean for 7 yrs.
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uglymutt



Joined: 01 Nov 2005
Posts: 937
Location: Planet Earth, Milky Way Galaxy

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:55 pm    Post subject:  

I been applying everywhere, I have no police record but a few gaps in employment and I can't get hired so a few mistakes like drugs, well good-bye... I bet we meet at the employment line.....I lost out , my life is over since no one will hire me with a 3 week gap in employment. So far 6 companies said sorry you got gap..... instead of you got a rap sheet...

Just try and try , thats all i am doing.....
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Rokk



Joined: 10 May 2004
Posts: 737
Location: Flatbedder on the road to somewhere

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:09 pm    Post subject:  

uglymutt wrote: I been applying everywhere, I have no police record but a few gaps in employment and I can't get hired so a few mistakes like drugs, well good-bye... I bet we meet at the employment line.....I lost out , my life is over since no one will hire me with a 3 week gap in employment. So far 6 companies said sorry you got gap..... instead of you got a rap sheet...

Just try and try , thats all i am doing.....

you can easily fix the employment gap in your history, by forming a letter, stating the dates, and periods of the employment gap. stating that it was unemployed without benefits collected. and having it notorized and witnessed, it then becomes a legal document and most truck companies with honor it. i myself have used one for years that encompasses a 6 year period for when i was working the temps services years ago. this was and still remains an easy solution to this wide spread issue.
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Windwalker



Joined: 22 Oct 2005
Posts: 3086
Location: Holiday, FL

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:41 pm    Post subject:  

rjk - I honestly don't know what to tell you. I know a lot of people get into things when they are young and foolish. Then learn to regret it later. Since I don't know where you are from, I can't give you any ideas where to try. And I don't have any advice for you either.

Uglymutt - on the other hand, with that gap, not very long, maybe you haven't tried the right company yet. No promises, I will not speak for them, but try calling 800 359 2900 and ask for recruiting. See what happens.
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rjk



Joined: 21 Nov 2005
Posts: 8

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:22 pm    Post subject:  

i am in nebraska, if anyone does happen to have a suggestion for me it would be very welcomed.
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GMAN



Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Posts: 9865
Location: Tennessee

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:38 pm    Post subject:  

Check the companies link on this forum. It lists the basic requirements for drivers. I think you are going to have a problem with that many and drug related. However, you could just start calling companies. You might find a construction company or one that runs dumps. These companies are not as particular as long as you have a decent MVR. I would get on the telephone and just start calling carriers, explain the situation and see what happens. Drugs are a big no no in this business. :shock:
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Angel



Joined: 15 Oct 2005
Posts: 288
Location: Georgia

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:26 am    Post subject:  

try some of the smaller companies maybe you can find one that will help you out but be honest and upfront with them
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rjk



Joined: 21 Nov 2005
Posts: 8

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:47 am    Post subject:  

I am definitely trying some smaller companies. My wife, bless her heart, emailed about 40 companies yesterday and asked if I would be eligible. But the fact that I can?t get a straight answer is really upsetting me. For example, I called one company yesterday and asked, and they said they would not hire me. She emailed the same company and they said they?d be happy to consider me in the email.

I have no idea what to think or where to go? I don?t have enough job searching time to be snowing the country with applications and getting backwards answers?
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kandieman



Joined: 14 Feb 2005
Posts: 191
Location: virginia

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:03 am    Post subject:  

once your convictions get into the seven year range more co may consider you. I have heard Trans am is lenient but do not know for sure. I have met a driver that works for them that claimed to have a conviction for trafficking cocaine hmmmm??? oh by the way where do u live?
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rjk



Joined: 21 Nov 2005
Posts: 8

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:21 am    Post subject:  

i live in NE. and actually trans am is the company that gave me two different answers. i need to try calling them again. my last conviction was may 1999 so i am just under 7 yrs. also since i never got convicted as a felon (only misd) i am still able to get hazmat.
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littleman2



Joined: 03 Jul 2004
Posts: 1954
Location: Washington State

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:45 am    Post subject:  

uglymutt wrote: I been applying everywhere, I have no police record but a few gaps in employment and I can't get hired so a few mistakes like drugs, well good-bye... I bet we meet at the employment line.....I lost out , my life is over since no one will hire me with a 3 week gap in employment. So far 6 companies said sorry you got gap..... instead of you got a rap sheet...

Just try and try , thats all i am doing.....
on your gap you just have to be able to have some one verify that you were out of work the three weeks thats all. I had a six month gap. and was hired sheesh.
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littleman2



Joined: 03 Jul 2004
Posts: 1954
Location: Washington State

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:55 am    Post subject: Re: zero tolerance?  

rjk wrote: I just started school for my CDL today- and realized it's probably all wasted $, because I have 3 misdemeanor (NOT felony) convictions for possession of drugs. They are from 1998-99 but I seem to be ineligible for hire. Does anyone know if this is the response I'll get across the board? I've talked to all the major companies I can think of. I am going to play devils advocate here! OK me the company looks at your application sees not one not two but three drug charges! Warning Warning Warning step away from the truck. Here is what an employer is going to look at 1. this guy did not learn his lesson. 2 OK if we give him a chance and he gets back to his old ways what the worst that can happen? 1. he kills a family, 2. he gets busted and we loose the truck and the load. 3 we are put out of business because some person can't leave drugs alone. nope sorry Mr. applicant three strikes and your out. also it does not matter how petty the charges were you knew it was against the law and you chose to break it three times. your character is questionable at best in the eyes of an employer. Best of luck and I do hope all works out for you.
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uglymutt



Joined: 01 Nov 2005
Posts: 937
Location: Planet Earth, Milky Way Galaxy

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:01 pm    Post subject:  

Littleman2 and Rokk, I do have a verifying letter of unemployment, my wife owns her own business and is self employed and works out of the house and when a recruiter calls they call her business because its the only phone I use at home, but they all said that self employment don't count, all the time in my gaps I just stayed home and helped the wife and I never got paid, she is my wife and we share the household, these trucking companies say they want a stronger work background because I have only been employed the last few years by temp agencies that its not good enough or strong enough for them to accept me... if they would go back 20 years and see I spent 13 years solid in a Sawmill and made $1300 gross every 2 weeks and I called in sick once in 13 years then I can show them I can work solid but since they only see these temp agencies and gaps they assume I am a loser and can't keep a job, I tried to explain to them my wife OWNS her own business and supports the household but they see that as self employed and that don't count and if she can verify I was home it still don't count..... I am confused as to why one must work until the day you go off to their orientation and quit your job that day...., I am unemployed now after graduating CDL school and have not worked because I have not been hired yet, so if I go get a job and work it until I get hired its not fair to the employer that I work 2 weeks and leave..... I am going to try to get on with companies with less than 20 trucks and stay away from the BIG companies that only hire someone with a trucking job that they can quit...
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