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Camstyn · Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 64 Location: Agassiz, BC

RR was one of my favorite posters and I will mourn for this board's great loss. :lol:

Useless · Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 3177 Location: Canyon Lake, Tx.

Rokk wrote: you mean you guys ran off another noob? geesh your all hardcore

i can understand him being upset, and probably felt like a big piece of doo!.

i know we all cant handhold. but i could sort of feel his pain. there is alot of negativity in this industry anyway, even in the world. he did seem to have the desire, and really wanted to do the job for whatever reason. granted i witnessed a coupel blow ups on his part in regard to what could be construed as some negativity or whatever on others part as well.

He SAID he had the desire, but what he really had was a mouth full of Want, and a hand full of Gi'mmie!! We tried to offer options to help him, but all he wanted was an easy way in. RR had never driven OTR, but felt qualified to "counsel" and ridicule other drivers. Many of us attempted to offer help in a constructive manner, but there are certain obstacles that none of us could control; his driving record for one. He didn't like being dealt with harshly, but he could be quite contempable with other group members whenever he felt like it

i am all for helping someone out. sometimes that someone may not be open to suggestions and whatnot. but as big brothers, parents, tainers mentors or whatever,. sometimes you have to take the gentle approach. even though text message and email as well as posting on forums can be impersonal forms of expression. i think that guy could have learned something or two here, and possibly did. from a few of you super truckers.

RR had more than adequate opportunity to learn; but he already knew too much for anyone here to help him. as far as us "Super Truckers" (which I'm not, in any sense of the word) none of us had any obligation to put up with his abusive, snivvelling, spoiled-rotten-child like temper tantrums.

The more we tried to help him, (and yes, that meant standing him in front of a mirror, and telling him "You are your biggest problem"), the more belligerent he became. He was too arrogant and self righteous to see that he was his own worst enemy. As far as helping him beyond that point, ask yourself "Why should we??"

The freight lanes and truck stops are already overburdened with far too many immature, irresponsible, "my life doesn't work, and it's everybody else's fault" people in this profession. We don't need to help put another one on the highways.

i am not condoning his attitude or his sense of irrespnsibility and non existent desire to at least "try" to buck down and study for such things as hazmat and such.

however, if he was banned, just based off postings that i read (all of them) then that was over the top IMHO moderation of a forum is one thing, but dictatorship and censorship over little matters such as this especially within the context of what the internet basis stands for to begin with, (being free speech and expression world wide) was way over the top. granted there are rules and guidelines to follow for every site.

There is only so much in the way of verbal abuse, insults, and profanity from one person that we should have to endure. RR got himself booted out, and I applaud the moderators for banning him. I know that you say that you are not excusing or condoning his conduct, but it does seem that you are wanting to blame us for his own self destruction; in short, none of us owed RR anything.

The true professional drivers are members of a close fraternity; even though we may have never met in person, we share a bond that requires us to accept responsibility for our conduct and actions, maintain a realistic perspective on life in trucking, and encourage others to do the same. Clearly, RR had no intention of ever meeting those standards.

like a mother lion teaching a cub to hunt, he would have soon gotten deeper insight and withstood a fighting chance out there. and possibly been a better cdl driver eventually because of it.

RR is not our "cub, or our "son". I have a wonderful "tweenage daughter, who has been about as easy to rear as any child could ever be. Could that have something to do with my wife's roll as her mother, and my roll as her father?? As I said RR was not my "Cub"; I would never put up with that kind of crap from my child!!

Now i dont know the guy from adam, but i am a compassionate person in general, as well as a husband, a father, a brother, and an uncle in life as well. a community needs to stand together, but this is just my 2 cents. and 2 cents dont add up to much unless you stack it all up over a period of time in a 1000 dollar jar.

Society in general is barely tolerant of truck drivers to begin with, and prejudice reigns supreme in this industry with all the pee bottles littering our hiways and such, and the bad rapp on trucks in general doesnt help at all either. Its my opinion i just seen that same type of concept in reversal here <shrug>

This brings me back to a point that I made earlier. Part of the reason trucking has such a bad reputation is because there are too many drivers with his attitudes out on the highways as it is!! The fraternity of truly professional drivers is not going to welcome him, or others like him, within our ranks!!

beat me with the ban stick as well if you think i am out of line for stating my thoughts on this. but i am just stating and sharing an observance.

No one is going to ban you for having a difference of opinion; that is a wonderful thing about freedom. Although I disagree with you, I applaud you for speaking out. But, there are reponsibillities that go with those rights. Now surely you will agree that RR wasn't to keen on the idea of personal resonsibility!!

i just think the guy should have been given a reprmand for conduct on forum in private. and some shouldnt have been hard on him and more tried to motivate him. i know i spent a few hours last night documenting a list of companies in his area for him to call up and get some OTR training. i did this on my own time, when i should have been spending it with my baby girl and boy and my wife. but i did it to help a comrade in arms so to speak, because it was the humane thing to do. i dont regret that.

It was kind of you to want to help him, but was he willing to accept it?? Quite honestly, you seem like a caring, compassionate person. RR doesn't deserve your time or efforts. Your children do!!

i think the guy should be given another chance on this forum. under his already assumed identity.

peace.

Rokk · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:43 pm Post subject:

yeah useless, i know what your saying, and dont get me wrong. i am not blaming anyone here on this forum. so please dont read too much into my post.

i have a 14 year old son, whom doesnt live with me, but rather his mother, my ex. he has troubles and i sometimes fear for him when it comes to his guidance in lifes lessons.. its just a part of me thats instilled that wants to help. i cant help that, its my nature. now on the other hand, i can be hateful, vengeful, spiteful and turn day into night in seconds, thats in my nature as well. but i choose not to show the dark side in life or on internet.

my original post on this thread wasnt to cast blame or fault. it was rather, just to point out the things i said. no one is or was expected to hold his hand and teach him, no one was expected to shake him by the neck and slapp the crapola out of him and knock the "know it all out of him" hell, no one is expected to "tolerate" anything from anyone at anytime. I am with you and in agreement on that wholeheartedly. no noone was at fault. except RR himself. and i am sure in the background theme of things going on things may have been said or actions taken obviously.

i was simply replying to the topic of fact, as an outside eye looking inward, as well as trying to convey an act of compassion and understanding.

yoopr · Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 12865

Scoe wrote: To answer to original question. Well, not very likely!! :wink:

Don't want to give away all our secrets but we "might" know if he came back.

Quite frankly, I'd be OK with it if he did come back and contribute in a positive, informative, inspirational, meaningful way.

My take on him. There's nothing wrong with thinking out loud if you are all by yourself but he mastered the art of typing out loud on a public forum. Not the best way to project yourself.

not really a secret Scoe but Everybody has an "ISP" number-I guess he could switch providers but I doubt it that'll happen.

Bumper · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 732 Location: Kingman Arizona

I have never ever felt that ANYONE has the RIGHT to free speech on the internet. This is a moderated forum and as such there are rules and regulations to be abided by.

If you cant abide by them, then hit the road. You have no God given or man given right to be here.

Aligator · Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 880

:lol: ROFLMAO
I just found him in another forum. Here's what he said
Quote: hey guys, new guy here, i'm in a similar situation and dont knwo where to turn....
i have my classA, minimal experience, mostly local, dont have the endorsements and frankly i'm not interested in them...i want to go OTR with a good company wiht good benefits, i'm not getting any good response or good feedback so far...
i dont have the worst MVR, but im sure its not the greatest either -
1 unsafe operation of a motor vehicle - 9/04
1 careless driving - 8/02
1 failure to keep in proper lane - 9/01
1 speeding (20+) - 10/00
==============================
1 accident - at fault - 6/04
2 accidents - not at fault - 8/02

hey, i'm trying to behave and clear this up but it takes time...i just want to drive OTR and i've already been lied to by Swift and sent packin at there orientation this week...
PM me if you'd prefer to keep it private....any and all suggestions will be taken into further consideration.
thanks for yer time.
Seems like that wasn't perzackly the story he was telling here. Am I right? :lol:

Rokk · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:47 pm Post subject:

dayum, thats alot of tickets, forget the timeframe, wonder if they was all in a truck or just a car, needless, thats a bunch.

Jake379 · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 22 Location: Seattle, WA

About Sweet Time. I have found RRs posts on EVERY subject to be quite irritating. For someone who has never driven OTR he sure did seem to know a lot about trucking.
For anyone who cares, here is my opinion. Swift did not screw him. A pre hire is nothing. I consider a pre hire to be in the same vein as a job interview. I have read it on here many times, "you do not have a job until you leave the yard with your own truck". RR wanted someone to hand him an OTR job. For all the time he spent posting on here (almost 800 messages in just a few months) he could have called thousands of companies. He just didnt want to do the leg work. Regardless of how much some of you liked RR, using profanity towards another poster is out of line, on any board in my opinion. As far as his driving record, those are pretty serious offenses. Swift or any company for that matter is allowed to make any kind of decision on who drives for them and who doesn't. His claim of false advertising is ludacris. RRs sudden hatred for Swift for something that was his own fault is obsurd. RR loved to point the blame at everyone but himself. His almost tantrum-like posts were almost more than I could stand. It would not surprise me one bit if he was let go just based on the way he is. I seriously doubt he is so much different in person than in his posts. Last time I checked the internet was not a personality changer. For the record, I do not frive OTR or have ever driven OTR. It is something that I am considering trying to re-enter. My other posts explain my situation for anyone interested. I just enjoy to read the posts and get information on truck driving. It is really annoying to read someones question and to see that RR was the first one to reply. Maybe someone with experience could get the first crack at it. I coulc go on and on but I will end it here. Sorry if this is out of line but I have been biting my tongue over RR for sometime. Hopefully the posts will go back to truck driving.

P.S. Spell Check is your friend and adding LOL after every sentence is really not cool.

dle · Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 733 Location: Texas

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RR is an adult, he is not a teenager. RR is mad at the world and he wants to get even with it. I also have tried to help him behind the scenes, with very little affect. Will I miss him - No. As Yoda said in response to Obi-Wan's statement --- He was our last hope --- There is another.

Don't worry there will be another one.

OverTheRoad · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:18 pm Post subject:

Well all be. I always figured there was more to the story than he led us to believe. I guess the truth finally came out.

As far as Useless and Rokk's conversation. Excellent points from both sides. See, now that's how you have an adult conversation/debate. Perfect example of how to use a forum to express your views. Freedom of speech at its finest.

yoopr · Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 12865

ok-well as Paul Harvey used to say "And now for the Rest of the Story"
as much as I hate Swift I don't blame them AT ALL-He hasn't a snowballs chance in Hell Driving" and thank God for That.
Wow-that's Alot of Tickets-rather than the 2 he mentioned.
what web site is this on? Punkin?

Mad Dog · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:46 pm Post subject:

He has 4 tickets (one is over 20+ mph??), 3 accidents and he is looking to drive OTR no less. Nope, don't want him out here with me. I don't want him just because he has a short fuse, don't need anymore of those.
Sorry, glad he is gone. Told him last night to get on the phone and start dialing but he has to know that nobody is going to hire him. Oh maybe CRE will hire, he'd be perfect for them.

the_quiet_guy · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:56 pm Post subject:

http://www.everytruckjob.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3414

Jake379 · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 22 Location: Seattle, WA

Which forum is he on? Im curious to hear what others tell him.

yoopr · Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 12865

can't wait to hear the responses-

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