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Mackman
Joined: 14 Sep 2005
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Location: Concordville PA
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:43 pm Post subject: Shifting with the JAKE |
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| I allways use the jake up shifting down shifting it never goes off. I think the jake helps me becuase it drops my RPMs faster. I can shift with it off just as good but i think i do it better with it on. They tell be you should do it on a road test but how many of you guys do it out there |
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Mackman
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| *** you should not do it on a road test**** |
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formertrucker
Joined: 07 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Mackman wrote: *** you should not do it on a road test****
I never do that cause then, it would mess up the shifting cause it comes on everytime you time and is very annoying when you try to go to the next gear and all the sudden it does it. So I would say no way. |
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RoadRunner9501
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
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Location: VA Beach, VA
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: Shifting with the JAKE |
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Mackman wrote: I allways use the jake up shifting down shifting it never goes off. I think the jake helps me becuase it drops my RPMs faster. I can shift with it off just as good but i think i do it better with it on. They tell be you should do it on a road test but how many of you guys do it out there recently in my '04 leased truck, my jake hasnt been working for about a month now, so that really sucks...i miss it a LOT, everytime they bring it in to get it fixed, they tend to fix "a different problem" and forget about my jake :( but as far as shifting with it on, yea, sometimes, most not tho.,..that trusk is tricky, the jake is supposed to "cut out" at 17mph, but it tend to work going from 1st to 2nd gear....and with the truck goverend, it holds back to fast to shift properly and the truck jerks alot...so i usually keep it off (when its working)
i sure hope swift has jakes... |
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Tony_Soprano
Joined: 05 Oct 2005
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Location: planet earth
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:29 pm Post subject: using the jake.. |
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| I never understand people who use the jake while accelerating... sometimes i think they like to listen to the "braap" between shifts.. I don't need to make the rpms drop faster.. does anybody notice the most common trucks shifting against the jake are either dirt dummies or tow trucks... :lol: |
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Nailbender
Joined: 03 Aug 2005
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Location: South Dakota
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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I guess I thought it was for slowing down only :shock: .
I turn it on if I think I may need it or when slowing.
I never gave a thought to leaving it on. I don't see the point. |
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formertrucker
Joined: 07 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Nailbender wrote: I guess I thought it was for slowing down only :shock: .
I turn it on if I think I may need it or when slowing.
I never gave a thought to leaving it on. I don't see the point.
ROLFLMAO :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: |
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Tango Yankee
Joined: 11 Oct 2005
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Location: Lucasville, OH
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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formertrucker wrote: Nailbender wrote: I guess I thought it was for slowing down only :shock: .
I turn it on if I think I may need it or when slowing.
I never gave a thought to leaving it on. I don't see the point.
ROLFLMAO :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ummm.... what's the joke? I'm just a CDL school grad, but that's what they taught--use the jake brake when going downhill to slow, downshift and use the brakes otherwise--which makes me even more annoyed when I hear that BRRAAAAPPPP outside my house. I live on a 2-lane highway on a relatively straight stretch and I still hear the over-use of jake brakes. Almost as annoying as straight pipes on cruisers. |
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Mackman
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Location: Concordville PA
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| dirt dummies what you mean dummies it does take alot of skill to drive a dump truck taking it off road on un level ground in soft mud. Try keeping inside a paver when your going around turns dumping blacktop with out drafting out and spilling 5 ton on the ground. You OTR trucks dont even see off the road your on the blacktop all the time. It is more likely that a dump truck driver could out shift an OTR driver just for the fact Dump truck drivers shifts alot more during the day. With stop and go traffic. dump trucks aint on the turn pike for hours on end in high gear. |
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formertrucker
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Tango Yankee wrote: formertrucker wrote: Nailbender wrote: I guess I thought it was for slowing down only :shock: .
I turn it on if I think I may need it or when slowing.
I never gave a thought to leaving it on. I don't see the point.
ROLFLMAO :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ummm.... what's the joke? I'm just a CDL school grad, but that's what they taught--use the jake brake when going downhill to slow, downshift and use the brakes otherwise--which makes me even more annoyed when I hear that BRRAAAAPPPP outside my house. I live on a 2-lane highway on a relatively straight stretch and I still hear the over-use of jake brakes. Almost as annoying as straight pipes on cruisers.
You are right, but others seem to think that it should be kept on while acelerating. Read some of the post above and oyu wwill see why. |
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red12
Joined: 19 Jul 2005
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Location: St. Louis, MO
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Mackman wrote: dirt dummies what you mean dummies it does take alot of skill to drive a dump truck taking it off road on un level ground in soft mud. Try keeping inside a paver when your going around turns dumping blacktop with out drafting out and spilling 5 ton on the ground. You OTR trucks dont even see off the road your on the blacktop all the time. It is more likely that a dump truck driver could out shift an OTR driver just for the fact Dump truck drivers shifts alot more during the day. With stop and go traffic. dump trucks aint on the turn pike for hours on end in high gear.
Mack you sound like one of my dumass friend I used to be friends with his dad had his own dump truck. He pretty much said the same thing to me onetime. I have alot of respect for some one you guys I rode with his dad a few times. And your right its a hole different story going through arrow streets with a 20ft vehical. I have done that. I wanted to drive dump trucks but theirs know money in it only if you own your own trucks and not just one. And it's to seasonal. But I have to argee with you I never used a jake brake hope to when I start driving cause it going to be used alot. Also I love to hear the jake break it sounds really good to me like music to my ears. Most trucks sound really good other sound like $&!+. |
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formertrucker
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Mackman wrote: dirt dummies what you mean dummies it does take alot of skill to drive a dump truck taking it off road on un level ground in soft mud. Try keeping inside a paver when your going around turns dumping blacktop with out drafting out and spilling 5 ton on the ground. You OTR trucks dont even see off the road your on the blacktop all the time. It is more likely that a dump truck driver could out shift an OTR driver just for the fact Dump truck drivers shifts alot more during the day. With stop and go traffic. dump trucks aint on the turn pike for hours on end in high gear.
Mack you must not realize it but there are a few of us who do go off road and you must not have ever asked any of us, maybe not every day but quite on we do. |
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Mackman
Joined: 14 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| there is money in dump trucks. They will start you out at a higher pay the OTR i looked at swift and there training pay is 350 then 400 and 500 something like that for the first 6 weeks that ain't no money once you take tax's out. There is more money in OTR yes if you have alot of exp. and never go home. I made alittle over 40k last year with alot of over time all most 55-60 hr weeks and alot of drivers are paid hourly so we get time and 1/2 over 40. i get laid off in the winter but only for like 4-5 weeks. With my last post i didn't mean to put down OTR drivers I see you guys out there with your 53footers and big sleepers in the city it ain't easy. All i was trying to say is all of truck driving weather it be local or OTR it all takes some skill. |
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red12
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Well dont get me wrong I would love to drive them. But 40 grand a year is just not enough for me. I plan on going with a dump trailer company in about a year or so. I would love to drive a dump trailer. |
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Mackman
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| dump trailer you are allmost 100% chance your going to get liad off in the winter and them things will tip over in your on any un level ground what so ever. I never seen one tip seen one come close one time but i hread storys. You have to get out with a level and check frist LOL |
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