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yoopr
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: 11hrs |
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sonic2wb wrote: As i seen no one brung it up i will and probilly get flamed for it. But here it goes.
I try to drive at least 8 or 9 hours in a day but it may take me more i log by miles at 70/mph i may drive 600miles in a day
600/70 = 8.5 hours but due to traffic/weater/bathroom/food/etc.. it may take me 9-10 hours but all i show is 8.5 hrs but everyone is different but i dont break the 11hr rule unless its within 1hour for example if i drive 770miles/11hrs and my stop is 30 or 40miles away i will dirve to make it. plus i dont see anyone sitting and driving for 11hrs straight
there's no way in hell you can AVERAGE 70mph on your log book-You're asking for major trouble with that |
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Uturn2001
Joined: 10 Jan 2005
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Location: East Central IL between the corn and the beans
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Logging by how long it would have taken you to get there is a real good way to have something come back and bite you in the azz one day. It may not happen during a roadside check it might happen during a DOT audit 6 months down the road and they are going to wonder how you went 650 miles in 10 hours during the blizzard of that year (or something like it).
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On a more "philisophical" note logging any other way than how you do it only reinforces trucking companies' behaviour when it comes to pushing drivers to meet extremely tight or impossible dispatches as well as continues to give them excuses to not raise the driver pay to what it should be. |
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Mad Dog
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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susansmith wrote: That's how I log too, sonic. I use a lower mph in my calculations, but bacsically... I figure how long it *should* have taken me to get there in a perfect world, and that's what I log.
I don't do it to go over 11 hours in a day, but to just not burn up my 70.
While I'm driving, I'm on line 3... but when I stop, it may turn out that my log may have gotten there a bit before I did.
I would not want to explain to DOT how my log is ahead of where I am nor would I want to explain why my log hasn't caught up with me. My partner and I don't even run 11 hours - we figure on 10 (sometimes we're over but most time right on the money). Why? We need the other time as our time. It is better if I vent at my partner than taking out on the people I have had to deal with on the road, we eat one meal together just to get caught up on the day/night, this morning my partner shut it down to watch a sunrise - if that's what it takes to make here happy, okay. We try to give ourselves at least 3 hours of team time. Been doing it that way for years, seems to work out fine.
Guess we run a little too legal than most. 8) |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Running team and only driving 10 hrs?? :shock:
makes you want to say Hmmmmm
NOW the truth comes out-no wonder she can't drive when she's running single :P |
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GMAN
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| You cannot legally log at 70 mph when the speed limit is 60 or 55 mph. If you are caught, you will probably be shut down and fined for log book falsification, which is a major fine and points on your CDL. Even if the posted speed is 70, you are taking a chance on getting a ticket. All you have to do is make a small error in your calculations and you are nailed. Your speed should ideally not be more than 2-3 mph under the posted speed in a particular state. Today, some of the DOT people, thanks to technology, can track your route from the time you leave until you are at the destination and tell how fast you were going. I was checked a couple of years ago in New York. The DOT guy did a complete inspection with about 18" of snow on the ground and -9 degree temperature. He plugged all of my information into his computer, which was in his van, and gave me a clean bill of health. I have no doubt that he would have ticketed me if he could have, legally done so. Just go ahead and log the way you are and one day you will either be checked or get into an accident, whether it is your fault or not, and you will pay the price. For me, it isn't worth the risk. I have more than 3.5MM miles without a chargeable accident or moving violation on my record. I have been checked on several occasions. I keep my log book straight and I don't log 70 mph in 55 mph states. I don't care for some of the rules, but that is part of this profession. We are not required to like them, but we are required to follow them. When you get caught, and you will at some point, it will reflect poorly on all of us. If you get close enough to fire you will get burned sooner or later. :roll: Mad Dog, I was beginning to think you were a figment of Bush Bunny's imagination brought on by acute sleep diprivation. :lol: How is the truck hunting coming along? :? :D |
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Mad Dog
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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yoopr wrote: Running team and only driving 10 hrs?? :shock:
makes you want to say Hmmmmm
NOW the truth comes out-no wonder she can't drive when she's running single :P
Better specify that 10 hours each! I sure don't want to to tick her off - remember I'm the one in the truck with her! :lol: :lol: :lol:
What can I say, she said she would buy dinner tonight - I got excited forgot what I was typing! :D |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| You can't even log 70mph when the SPEED LIMIT is 70mph-CAN'T be done |
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Mad Dog
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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GMAN wrote: Mad Dog, I was beginning to think you were a figment of Bush Bunny's imagination brought on by acute sleep diprivation. :lol: How is the truck hunting coming along? :? :D
It's not at this point - I have to get her home. I still don't have her up to speed on hours, she seems to be burnt out. |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Mad Dog wrote: yoopr wrote: Running team and only driving 10 hrs?? :shock:
makes you want to say Hmmmmm
NOW the truth comes out-no wonder she can't drive when she's running single :P
Better specify that 10 hours each! I sure don't want to to tick her off - remember I'm the one in the truck with her! :lol: :lol: :lol:
What can I say, she said she would buy dinner tonight - I got excited forgot what I was typing! :D
Glad you clarified that-I was about to call both of you LAZY!!!!!!! :P |
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wanderingson
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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yoopr wrote: You can't even log 70mph when the SPEED LIMIT is 70mph-CAN'T be done
Words of wisdom here! Very true.
I've always found,that if you can make your log average 55-60 mph,you'll never have a problem. The closer to 55,the better. |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Years ago if this guy ran his logs showing an average of 70mph and went into a scale with the DOT in there they would say to him-"OK-Show ME how you did it" and then get in the truck with him. :shock: |
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Bush Bunny
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| Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:51 am Post subject: |
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| I'm working on forgiving. :x |
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yoopr
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| Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Bush Bunny wrote: Mad Dog wrote: If we not home by the end of next week (suppose to be home the 17th) I putting her on a plane. I might have to sedate her but she's going.
Really, you think you can get me on a plane! :shock: I think we need to have a discussion regarding me leaving the truck. Better yet, if the truck is rolling, I'm staying end of discussion!!
Sorry to hijack - carry on.
so let me see if I've got this right-You're Both in the truck and passing the computer back and forth between you to post this? :roll: |
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Mad Dog
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| Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| Actually we have our own laptops but Bush Bunny has seem to latch onto my aircard. (She will probably throw that at me now.) She was making a point on her last post - got it won't do that again. :oops: I have gone back in and retracted the last statement. I wonder why I was getting the green eye glare when I stopped for lunch. I think I'll get back to driving I stay out of trouble better when I'm behind the wheel. :lol: :lol: :lol: |
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sanchez498
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| Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Well one more hijack. Its nice to know you are not just a figment of her imagination Mad Dog. Now onto the plane thing. Did you ever watch the A-Team when it was on tv. If so you know were i am going with this. :wink: |
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