Girls, Stop Whining!

[Trouble0801]

I have read through the posts in this forum. Most of it seems to be women who are bitching because of the way that men treat them. News flash: We will ALWAYS be sex objects to men, that will NEVER change. So if you want to work in a male dominated field, learn how to deal with it and stop ruining it for the rest of us with all of these frivolous "sexual harassment" lawsuits!
I drove dump truck for 2 years. When I first started, not only had I JUST gotten my CDL, but I was also the ONLY woman among 20 some men, and the first woman to work at the company in 2 years (the last one sued them). I had to work twice as hard to get the same respect as any of the guys there. I didn't take offense to that. I took it on as a challenge and I conquered it! By the time I had been there for a year I was in a brand new truck, and was the only driver there who the senior drivers trusted to drive their trucks when they were on vacation.
I busted my ass to prove to those guys that I was just as good as they were. Did I have to put up with ****? Yes, I did! Could I have sued that company for all it was worth? Yes, I could have! But why would I do that? Why would ANYONE do that? To **** it up for the rest of us? I had to ride along for 4 mos for free to prove that I wanted the job and could hang with the guys, just because some dumb bitch sued them before I got there!
It is all just ridiculous! If you want to be treated as an equal, then hand the bull**** out just as fast as you receive it! Talking **** on the CB is half of truck driving! ****ing figure it out and STOP complaining and for the love of god STOP suing people because something that you thought you wanted turned out to be offensive because you are TOO ******* SENSITIVE!!!!! ****ing get a life, get over it and hold your own, or find a new career!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mitchno1]

go girl you got it in a nutshell we get same crap here from those type

[classictruckman]

Yeah I certainly can't talk for all of the guys out there but I treat women with the same respect as I do men, I hear the same things all the time about men treating women badly when they were just joking around trying to treat them as equally as they would a man. But maybe thats the problem women are always fighting for equality and so on, but maybe they don't realize they would have to lower themselves to our level to be equal.

[4roses]

First let me say .... I'm proud for you Trouble0801 on how far you have come....Just wondering why you would pick a handle or screen name like Trouble ? ..Generally our name is a reflection of who we are. ....I'm sorry you had to go through so much crap to prove to others and yourself that you could do this job ... But I haven't heard any Lady here say anything about "sexual harassment lawsuits" ...

Yes trucking has been mostly a males profession from the begnning of time .... but females are now realizing that they too ... can do the exact same work and do the same quality of work - as those who have been here before us.... When I started driving back in the early 90's ... there was not that many Lady drivers on the road - I always acted like a Lady with Self Pride and Self Respect .... I learned quickly how to turn the cb off ... and when the smart ***** remarks come my way ... I just figured that I - a Lady - made their 'insecurity' surface and it seems to of scared alot of the big/little boys ... In all area's of work .... from Corp. to Retail and so on ... there is such a this called RESPECT ... I never got on the radio and talked dirty or told dirty jokes .... that wasn't necessary in order for me to get my job done. My thought is ... I carry myself with Repect and I will accept nothing less than that .... It's a known fact ..... we as humans teach 'others' how to treat Us !

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'''It is all just ridiculous! If you want to be treated as an equal, then hand the bull**** out just as fast as you receive it! '''
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So sorry ... no body needs to LOWER themself to that level to prove a point.

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"" Talking **** on the CB is half of truck driving! ****ing figure it out and STOP complaining and for the love of god STOP suing people because something that you thought you wanted turned out to be offensive because you are TOO ******* SENSITIVE!!!!! ****ing get a life ""
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Excuse Me !! .... Talking on the CB isn't half of trucking .... the main purpose of it is to know if there's an accident ahead of you or a bear in the woods at a certain mile marker .... or to ask for directions ..... Not to be offensive to people !

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"" because something that you thought you wanted turned out to be offensive because you are TOO ******* SENSITIVE!!!!! ****ing get a life" ""
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Gosh .... sorry to inform you but ..... SENSITIVE!!!!! ...... has nothing to do with this job. Everyone knows that trucking is a hard job, dirty, and does seem to draw quite a few of the lower class of people to it .... who know's why ..... there's alot of bikers, people who couldn't go to college or had no other choice but to drive a truck and some that really love the job ...... but the newer group of drivers I've met come from ... other area's of the working force .... they've just retired or got laid off and figured they would give this profession a chance ... I met a Retire High School Principal, ex-Banker, and trust me ..... these people won't be Disrespectful to the other drivers .... because they learned in life that ..... We treat people the way We want to be treated.

Again ... We Teach Others How To Treat Us .... Thats a known fact.! .... Trouble don't you realize that with the Knowledge you have gained working in this field of trucking ..... that You could be such a strong force of encouragment to other Ladies wanting to start in this Profession? ...

[mitchno1]

hey 4roses you bit over the top calm down its not a dirty job ****i drive a logging truck and am lot cleaner when i get home than when i was logging ,and its not hard work haha thats why woman can do it without complaining ,well some of you

[Trouble0801]

Classictruckman: Very well put, lol! I think that most women assume that "equality" means being treated better than everyone else. I'm not sure WHY they would expect that, but it seems to be the case. I would rather be treated as "one of the guys", because if you can't fit in with the guys, then you are never going to make it in this industry.

[Trouble0801]

4roses: First of all, my name is Trouble because that is the nickname that the guys gave to me when I started driving truck. When I asked them why, they told me, "Because you are hot and you drive truck, so you're Trouble!" I find this hilarious! This is not about people being "low class" or "disrespectful". I come from an upper middle class family and could have gone to college had I chosen to do so. As you said, there are many different people out there driving truck, some with bachelors degrees, because they found that they were able to make more money driving! So, class aside... I don't think that I ever made anyone's "insecurity surface", as you put it. These are men... They are men that are not used to having to watch their mouths, and that love the enviornment that they work in. Who are we to change that? I NEVER turned my CB off, most of the time I was laughing my ass off because of some comment some guy was making. I believe that I AM a strong force of encouragement to other ladies wanting to start in this profession because I can show them how to deal with REAL LIFE.... not some idealistic, pussified, womanized version of trucking.

[Trouble0801]

Mitchno1: LOL! Sometimes it is a dirty job, and sometimes it is hard work. I've shoveled out the back of a dump truck and trailer with clay stuck in it... good times, every shovelfull weighs about 10lbs! But I did it all without complaining! Some of us are cut out for the job... and some of us obviously aren't.

[mitchno1]

agree with you mate if they are wimps they shouldnot be there hey lot of the moaning blokes we got in here are the same ,should all harden up ,old saying if you cant handle the heat get out the ****en kitchen lol have good day trouble like ur attitude

[freebirdrfd]

I hope you stick around for awhile trouble.

[4roses]

Excuse me .....

" I can show them how to deal with REAL LIFE.... not some idealistic, pussified, womanized version of trucking. "

WOW !! It's clear how you think now. A female driving is or should be out there to make an honest living for their family !! Not to party or play with the boys .. there's no way a Professionl Lady is going to waste their energy trying to change this profession to a womanized version of trucking ... WOW ....

REAL LIFE is only in The person's mind and that includes mine too ........ no where in life does it say that a 'person' should have to be the blunt end of a joke ... or degrated ..... and for the Professional Ladies on the road they DON'T stay on the radio and encourage this kind of disrespectful thinking... they turn it off. As I was raised to beleive and will always ..... Birds of a Feather Flock Together .

So may you ride with pride and realize that You are a Lady and should be treated as such .....

Stay safe.

[4roses]

Watch your 'Thoughts,' they become words


Watch your 'Words,' they become action


Watch your 'Actions,' they become habits.


Watch your 'Habits,' they become character


Watch your 'Character,' for it becomes your Destiny.'

[Ridge Runner]

It is all just ridiculous! If you want to be treated as an equal, then hand the bull**** out just as fast as you receive it! Talking **** on the CB is half of truck driving! ****ing figure it out and STOP complaining and for the love of god STOP suing people because something that you thought you wanted turned out to be offensive because you are TOO ******* SENSITIVE!!!!! ****ing get a life, get over it and hold your own, or find a new career!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

[Trouble0801]

freebirdrfd,
Thanks! I plan to

[wildkat]

I'm not even sure this bears comment...except WOW! and UNBELIEVABLE!

[Shawnee]

I can show them how to deal with REAL LIFE, not some pussified, womanized version of trucking

That just makes me laugh, I don't think you are going to teach me anything about trucking, I have been around this industry my entire life, and am definatly no stranger to hard work or getting dirty. If anything I could teach you a thing or two. I was very young when I stared out and was the only girl working for the company when I started. I found most of the men were kind and willing to teach me, of course there were some who would talk about me behind my back, but I never made a big deal about it. I can joke around with the men just as well as anyone, I don't and never did expect to be treated any different just because I was a woman.

I have owned my own trucks almost as long as I have been driving them, my husband and I now own a small trucking company and have had women employees and they were nothing like the SENSITIVE women you describe. They all got along very well with the men.

I am not sure what you are trying to get at other than the fact that you think you are better than the rest of us because you think you are one of the boys. I have had many conversations with men on the CB, and never felt the need to talk ****, and never felt the need to turn off my radio, I never acted in any way that would be considered unclassy. Lose the attitude, it will get you nowhere, talking **** will get you nowhere and men generally don't like foul-mouthed women. Stop thinking that you are any better or different than all the other women out here, I was one of the "boys" long before you came around.

[mitchno1]

nice one shawnee you on to it girl ther sounds like heaps wankers where you are as here , most us males try to respect people we work alongside but as you see some are up them selves

[Roadhog]

Where I live, it's the men who do all the whining... and then there are the screams in the night.
The wimmin are the dominate of the species.... and there is question about the DNA.

For instance;
At my bachelor party, we had kept the location ultra secret, and even had a dummy party going on, to throw the wimmin off the scent.
These local beasts, waited until all the men were drunk, before they raided the party.
Fortunately, I was passed out in the snow, in front of the house, with my dog howling over me (as if I died), so I was not molested. (so the story goes...)

HOG-geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! HOG-HOG-HOG-HOG!!!

.................................................. .... AHHHh! ...sorry... I gotta go...

[MichiganDriver]

Where I live, it's the men who do all the whining... and then there are the screams in the night.
The wimmin are the dominate of the species.... and there is question about the DNA.

For instance;
At my bachelor party, we had kept the location ultra secret, and even had a dummy party going on, to throw the wimmin off the scent.
These local beasts, waited until all the men were drunk, before they raided the party.
Fortunately, I was passed out in the snow, in front of the house, with my dog howling over me (as if I died), so I was not molested. (so the story goes...)

HOG-geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! HOG-HOG-HOG-HOG!!!

.................................................. .... AHHHh! ...sorry... I gotta go...

And then there are the screams in the night?!?! Could I get some directions to that neighborhood? I haven't done a good scream in the night in a long time.

[Instigator]

4Roses........So whats wrong with "BIKERS" being truck drivers? I guess you do not like truckers with tattoo's either? Not only do I ride a Harley, I also have Tattoo's, and I was a CEO of 2 corporations (now closed, this is why I got back into trucking) I stand 6'3" around 300 lbs. and I look like a biker, does this mean i am an axxhole according to you? HAHAHAHAHAHA you make me laugh!

There are many different types of people in the trucking industry, men, women, rednecks, cracka's, northerners, southerners, fat, skinny, pretty, ugly, black, white, hispanic, does anyone really care? I sure don't. I talk to anyone on the CB, I would help anyone on the side of the road, and it does not matter what you are, your still a ..........TRUCKER!

Some of them annoy me too and I ignore them or turn my radio off. We are all equal and should treat each other that way, as equals. For Trouble, it seems to me that you my dear are whinning pretty good yourself, so shut up and sit down and drive!

Instigator~!