Carrying a gun on the Truck

[4roses]

I carried my 357 magum for a while. But I was to concerned about crossing the border in Canada. So I made the decision to just leave it at home. An employee that was working for CFI when I was driving for them, had a gun when he crossed the boarder - they located it in his truck - and the last I've heard is - - their still trying to get him out of jail and back to the states. If it wasn't for Canada I would of carried one all the time. I was never fearful of the drivers parked around me, it was the drifters that came knocking on your door wee hours .

[GMAN]

I used to keep a gun in my truck. Like you, Roses, I stopped when I began running into Canada. I nearly made the mistake of crossing the border once with the gun. Fortunately, I remembered that I had it and stored it before making the trip. Canadians really frown on taking guns across the border. They will throw you in jail in a heartbeat if you are caught. I met a guy once who told me that he regularly crosses the border with a gun. It isn't worth the risk from my point of view. I haven't crossed the border in years. If I did I would make sure to NOT have a gun in my truck. You are asking for a lot of trouble if you do. No matter how much some of you think that the U.S. and Canada are the same, Canada is a different country with different rules and laws. While some are similar, they don't allow people to cross into the country with guns. There are some ways in which you can cross with guns, but is rather involved and not for the average driver. If you cross the border you will do well to leave the arsenal at home. As I recall, we had a father come on here once who told us about his son being caught with a gun at the border. They arrested him and confiscated his truck, as I recall. I believe that it is a $10,000 fine if they catch you. It is their country. They make the rules. If you plan on crossing the border then you need to be familiar with their laws.

In this country, laws can differ from city to city, state to state. While it is not against the law to have a gun in your truck, you could be violating local ordinances by having one in your possession. If you do keep a gun in your truck I would keep the information quiet. It isn't something that you want to broadcast. And never pull a gun and point it at someone unless you are prepared to use it.

[Lost_in_Ohio]

Not sure how true this is but from what I heard:

If you don't have a permit, keep ammo seperate and your gun in a case while you are travelling.

Once you stop for 10 hour break the truck then becomes your "dwelling" or home, you then can go back to sleeper and you can sleep with loaded gun next to you.(obviuosly as long as you don't have any felonys or disabilities for carrying a firearm.)

Once you wake up and start to move again, unload gun, place gun in case and store ammo in seperate place (under bunk) and you will be fine because you are not traveling with a loaded weapon.

Don't take my word on this, I heard this on XM radio road dog trucking. I know in New York, Canada, Mexico and places like that you are screwed even with an unloaded gun.

This is such a fuzzy topic, there seems to be different opinions with everybody.

[Windwalker]

Not sure how true this is but from what I heard:

If you don't have a permit, keep ammo seperate and your gun in a case while you are travelling.

Once you stop for 10 hour break the truck then becomes your "dwelling" or home, you then can go back to sleeper and you can sleep with loaded gun next to you.(obviuosly as long as you don't have any felonys or disabilities for carrying a firearm.)

Once you wake up and start to move again, unload gun, place gun in case and store ammo in seperate place (under bunk) and you will be fine because you are not traveling with a loaded weapon.

Don't take my word on this, I heard this on XM radio road dog trucking. I know in New York, Canada, Mexico and places like that you are screwed even with an unloaded gun.

This is such a fuzzy topic, there seems to be different opinions with everybody.

It's my understanding that the only guns allowed, legally, in a truck are "signal launchers" (flare guns) and "pneumatic markers" (paint-ball guns). I carried a "pick handle" for a few years, and in some truck stops, I had it resting in my lap. After a while, I left that home too. The one time I was faced with a gun, having one on me would have done no good at all. Neither would the pick handle. When you're cranking the landing gear up or down, and find yourself face to face with a gun, the one you have inside the truck isn't much use. I also know of a North American driver that had a gun in his truck in Indiana, and I believe he's still in prison there. For the percentage of time that it might actually be useful to a driver, I don't see any good reason to carry one.

I'm also reminded of a customer in VT. The guy on the dock told me his cousin was a State Trooper. When his cousin was getting a divorce, he decided to take all his guns to his sister's house.... Across the line into Canada. At the boarder they found the guns. The fact that he was a State Trooper in VT didn't count for anything. They still locked him up. When I talked to the guy, it was three weeks later, and his cousin still wasn't home.

On one trip across the boarder at Derby Line, when I was asked if I had any weapons, I held up a screw driver. The guy smiled and said "We use those up here too."

[Blacksheep]

Well, I'm afraid my vote goes against carrying a firearm in a CMV. Back in about 2000, in Indiana, several CB RAMBO's were having at it. You know the routine... "PULL IT OVER RIGHT NOW, AND I'LL SHOW YOU" The guy that pulled it over (I think it was Covenant) did so to relieve some bladder pressure. He knew nothing about any rambos. North American pulled it over right behind him, got out and crossed to the shoulder... And put two 9-MM slugs into Covenant's driver's chest, then got back into his truck and left. That happened about the 60 mile marker, or so. The police caught up with North American at about the 120 mile marker. Covenant was flown to the hospital by chopper.

If they allow guns in CMV's, who do you suppose is going to be the first to arm themselves? And, what do you suppose those RAMBOs are going to do with them? NO GUNS IN TRUCKS!!!!!

There are enough other alternatives that you DO NOT NEED ONE THAT BAD.

Seriously bro ? I respect your opinion but on this you're dead wrong.

[bretstep]

The original post was about ones right (choice) to carry a loaded gun if he/she has a concealed carry weapon ( CCW ) license, not wether everyone agrees with carrying a weapon. I honestly believe, hopefully, there will be future legislation addressing this issue. The CCW allows the holder to carry a loaded weapon anywhere with the exception of government buildings, public schools, day care facilities and all private property unless marked otherwise. Since the CCW law does not specifically prohibit state commercial motor vehicles, the laws conflict with one another.

[bretstep]

You are correct with the exception of either the gun or ammo under the bunk. The gun and ammo can't both be accessable in the area of a vehicle that carries passengers. One or the other needs to be in the trunk, in the bed or trailer or even under the hood if that works for you. Historically this was enaced to allow for transportation of firearms for legal sporting purposes. A CCW license allows you to pack loaded on your person or in the vehicle. If pulled over, the permit holder is required by law to immediately inform the officer that he/she is a permit holder and a weapon is present.

[ZrRider]

I think every arguement carries a lot of weight, I drive local, when I go into a bad area I carry.......but for a long distance driver if you run in canada they will seize if they find it. I think you do what you want to, there are always a few bad apples in life ultimately it's your decision.

[repete]

You are correct with the exception of either the gun or ammo under the bunk. The gun and ammo can't both be accessable in the area of a vehicle that carries passengers. One or the other needs to be in the trunk, in the bed or trailer or even under the hood if that works for you. Historically this was enaced to allow for transportation of firearms for legal sporting purposes. A CCW license allows you to pack loaded on your person or in the vehicle. If pulled over, the permit holder is required by law to immediately inform the officer that he/she is a permit holder and a weapon is present.

You are assumeing that ALL states are the same and will honour your state's CCW, That is not the case! If you don't believe me just stop and ask any Ma. NJ or NY cop. Informing an officer of a weapon when stopped is also up to the state law. Under Fed. law you may transport an unloaded and locked or cased weapon , but as soon as you load it THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING

As nice as a Federal CCW sounds do you really want the Feds to have that kind of power over the state? If the Feds could mandate the states to honour a CCW they could also limit who,what,when, and how much! Kinda like your allowed no more than 50rnds of any one caliber!! I could burn that up REAL quick!

[terrylamar]

You are assumeing that ALL states are the same and will honour your state's CCW, That is not the case! If you don't believe me just stop and ask any Ma. NJ or NY cop. Informing an officer of a weapon when stopped is also up to the state law. Under Fed. law you may transport an unloaded and locked or cased weapon , but as soon as you load it THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING

As nice as a Federal CCW sounds do you really want the Feds to have that kind of power over the state? If the Feds could mandate the states to honour a CCW they could also limit who,what,when, and how much! Kinda like your allowed no more than 50rnds of any one caliber!! I could burn that up REAL quick!

What is the difference in honoring each states driver's license, or marriages?

[Sheepdancer]

Dont know if its been said, havent read the whole thread. But the problems with carrying guns on a truck are a couple of things: First, not all states have concieled carry laws. If your company did allow you to carry, what are you going to do when you are dispatched to a state its not legal to carry in? Refuse the load? Second. What if the recieving company has a no guns on property rule. Again, are you going to just refuse to go through the gate? Or worse, what if you have a delivery to a government building where bringing a gun on the property could be a serious felony? If you want to carry a gun on your truck, simply buy your own truck, Get your own authority, get a CC permit and get your own loads. That way all the risk is yours, not the company you work for.

[geeshock]

well, just make sure to stay away from the borders or and checkpoints with x-rays, stay out of the ports, blah, blah, blah. The thing is, technology is allowing them to see whats in your truck w/out even stepping in it. X-rays t see the gun, sensors to find radioactive materials, dogs have been in use on the boarders for a long time, especially along the Mexico boarder. What it boils down to, you break the law and sooner or later you'll get caught, if you don't value your CDL, keep breaking the laws. I'll keep advocating the right to bear, but I'll keep it legal.

[Hawk_sga]

Like you I don't advocate one to carry a weapon in their truck. However here is the latest update dealing with CC.
Standards should be uniform across nation
November 28, 2011
By Chris W. Cox

Thanks to the hard work of National Rifle Association members, gun owners, and freedom-loving patriots nationwide, Americans are now one step closer to strengthening our fundamental right to self-defense.

Last week, the U.S. House of Representatives passed the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act (H.R. 822) by a majority, bipartisan vote of 272 to 154. The act would allow any American citizen with a valid, state-issued concealed-carry permit to exercise his right to carry a firearm in any state that affords the same right to its own residents.
Currently, 49 states have laws that permit concealed-carry. Only Illinois and the District of Columbia deny their residents the right to carry a concealed firearm outside their homes and workplaces for self-defense.

The problem is that interstate recognition of these various permit laws is not consistent. Some states recognize permit holders from other states, and others refuse to recognize any state's permit but their own. The National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act would solve this problem by requiring states that allow concealed-carry to recognize each other's permits, in the same way they recognize each other's driver's licenses.

Some have erroneously claimed that H.R. 822 would create a "federal gun-licensing" system. This is not true. In fact, the bill protects the right of each state to issue its own permits and determine its own rules regarding concealed carry - such as where carrying is prohibited and where it's allowed. Visiting permit-holders are required to abide by each state's unique rules the same way they must obey each state's speed limits.

Others have tried to argue that H.R. 822 violates the Tenth Amendment right of every state to make its own laws. Again, this is false. The fact is that the Second Amendment guarantees the individual right of every law-abiding citizen to bear arms. This is an inalienable right that neither the federal government, nor any state government, may infringe upon. Furthermore, Congress has the power (under the 14th Amendment) to protect citizens from state infringement of their constitutional rights.

Predictably, the gun-control lobby is trotting out the same "Wild West" scare tactics we hear from it every time Congress moves to protect our Second Amendment freedoms. And once again, its hysteria falls flat when faced with the facts.

[solo379]

Only Illinois and the District of Columbia deny their residents the right to carry a concealed firearm outside their homes and workplaces for self-defense.

Good luck on getting those permits in, NJ, NY, .....

[GMAN]

It still seems strange to me that we are even required to have a permit to carry a gun. It defies the Constitution to restrict ownership or possession of a firearm.

[crb]

It still seems strange to me that we are even required to have a permit to carry a gun. It defies the Constitution to restrict ownership or possession of a firearm.

I agree is a permit required to speak, or attend church?

[mitchno1]

no problems here having a gun in truck ha mean rifle we not allowed handguns un less in pistol shooting club,not gunna let no deer get away.but can see you jokas point ov view ,but yeah go to another country (canada) you gota abide by there rules

[Alven]

I understand there is no Federal law against truck drivers having a concealed carry license; however, trucking industry businesses may have rules that prohibit carrying a firearm while driving. I have sold my patented strut holster to truck drivers who indicated that they have carried for years. The HR 822, National Right to Carry Reciprocity Act of 2011 legislation proposal, currently in Congress, will relieve some of the problems carrying between states. Everyone has different opinions about concealed carry as noted, but, 100% of us are interested in preserving our life. The same respect and understanding is required for concealed carry as compared to driving those awesome trucks. Alven, owner; Stealth Defense Strut Holsters

[repete]

I know some of you carry in the truck, just be xtra careful in NYC! Get cought in the city and it's a mandatory 3.5 years and up 15! They are cracking down on people that legal carry and then THINK it's ok for them in the city WRONG!!! NYC is a different animal all to itself, they don't even recognize a New York State permit.
NYC is also cracking down hard on POCKET KNIVES! In the city you can NOT open carry a knife, it HAS to be conceled, even the clip of a clip on type. So watch you azz in Bloombergia!
More big feel good gvmt.

[Corrupted_Tongue]

If you google: Tn woman Ny gun.


You will bring up an article about a woman who made a big mistake. She was visiting NY, and went to the 9/11 memorial and tried to check in her LOADED HANDGUN at the security check point!! This just happened Dec 2011.

It's really important to research the laws of each state you travel to.