Carrying a gun on the Truck

As usual you have turned this into something more than what was started. I only said it's not illegal to have a fake gun. I did not say anything about waving it around or pointing it at random people. If you are threatened by someone and you point a fake gun at them chances are they would back down. It's not illegal to own a fake gun so if you are planning on carrying a gun then why not a fake one? You won't be prosecuted for it and if your in a bad situation chances are the aggressor will back down. That's all....GEEZ

[Tailgunner]

Hey Scoe

That incident with the covenant driver gettin shot by the north american driver, that also happened in texas about a year or so ago. A Celadon driver got shot or stabbed by another driver (unknown company name).

[yoopr]

Another option is to buy a fake gun off the web. It's legal and there is no way for someone to tell if it's real or not.

Might be legal but if You point it at someone by law it's considered a Actual Firearm.

As usual, more made up laws. NOT TRUE....Lets see you quote a law stating your claim? Little kids would be put in jail left and right for playing army with fake guns. It is not against the law to hold, carry or point a fake gun...period!

I believe you'll find that it's covered from the point of "preception". Just like "sexual harrassment", if the offended party feels it is harrassment, then, it's harrassment. If you point a gun at someone, and they feel threatened because they think it's real, you're in trouble.

A few years ago, my daughter was in a car with other kids. They stopped at a SHOPCO and bought a little BB gun. It looked real enough. But they took it out of the box while driving around town. The next thing they knew, there were more than 20 squad cars zeroed in on them. OUT OF THE CAR, FACE DOWN ON THE GROUND, AND SPREAD 'EM WIDE!!! My daughter says that with more than twenty guns pointed at them, she was praying that the breeze didn't even move her hair. One wrong move and the cops would have started shooting.

Now, would you like to die because of a fake gun that LOOKS real?????

thanks for clarifying Windwalker
Wonder how many people are in prison because they tried to hold up a bank AND they are also charged with Armed Robbery because they had a Toy Pistol. Actually having their hand in their coat trying to imply they had a weapon would be Armed Robbery.

[terrylamar]

A handgun is easily concealed and that seems to be why states regulate it to various degrees. Why not carry a shotgun or even a rifle. For defensive purposes I guess a shotgun would be better. You have enough room in your truck to use it. You could even go to the trouble of having a legally registered Any Other Weapon (AOW) $5.00 fee vs. a short barreled shotgun $200.00 fee. Just keep your papers with you and they should superceed any state law. I am not a class III dealer so don't quote me on this. I do have all the state laws, I should go through them to find out in which states this would be legal.

[SamIam_Murphy]

the whole gun issue is complicated. different laws in every state, can't take a gun into canada, etc... I do have a big pry bar and a claw hammer.....

[terrylamar]

"You could even go to the trouble of having a legally registered Any Other Weapon (AOW) $5.00 fee vs. a short barreled shotgun $200.00 fee. Just keep your papers with you and they should superceed any state law. I am not a class III dealer so don't quote me on this."

Lucky I had the disclaimer, I know better, you can't take your Class III out of state without BATFE permission.

[Deerhunter]

I was always taught that every weapon is always loaded. And that if you are going to point a weapon at someone you better be ready to use it because if you get some crackhead with his own gun he will darn well be ready to use his. My father taught me that. My mother never wanted firearms in the house. BUT she beleived that was everyone elses choice to make for there own homes. She had no problem with anyone else having one. I own several. and if I could I would carey mine everywere. I am not a big person and yes I could be overpowered in a parkinglot if traveling alone. So drop the macho BS it really dosent fly with me. I would not hesitate to defend my home or family. Or freinds. Or myself. I am important to my family as well. I have heard plenty of accounts (not stories) were people have succesfully defended their homes, selves, places of work. and so on. You just dont get that from the gun control biased media. The 2nd amendment isnt about duck hunting. They dont get that.

[Flatspot]

I'll admit that I've been places (mostly metropolitan areas), in the wee hours, that I would have felt comforted if I'd had my .357 with me. You know the kind of place I mean. You back up to a wall so the thieves can't pop open the doors and steal your cargo. Doesn't protect you if they want to pop open a sleeper vent a spray something in there. You really need a gas mask and a gun in some places. I've been to some, they tell you "don't get out of the truck. We'll open the doors for you, close them for you, bring the paperwork out to you". Know the kind of place I mean?

If you want to carry a gun in a commercial vehicle, you need a license that allows you to carry that gun regardless of state, county, or city regulations. Only people I can think of with that kind of license are FBI and US Marshall. Good luck getting one of those licenses.

Next, your gun in only a short-handled club unless you have ammunition. If you have bullets, you need haz-mat endorsement on your CDL, and three (count 'em, 3) placards on the rig, regardless of the cargo in the wagon.

1) Explosion hazard.
2) Fire hazard.
3) Projectile hazard.

The rules for hauling ammunition are a good deal more strict than for other haz-mat in terms of "allowable quantities" that don't require placards. For ammunition, that's basically one (1) round.

So, to legally carry a gun while driving commercially, you need to satisfy all of the above requirements.

[classicxl]

There is no reason to be carrying a gun on a truck. You what you have tire thumper baseball bat whatever lock your doors get a dog and if your still scared your in the wrong profession

[Deerhunter]

There is no reason to be carrying a gun on a truck. You what you have tire thumper baseball bat whatever lock your doors get a dog and if your still scared your in the wrong profession

Being scared is not the point. Its being prepared for the worst. its being smart. You wouldn't ask a police officer to go into those places UNPREPARED. Why would you ask an unprotected, insufficiently trained (in hand to hand combat) Trucker to do the same. Unless you are driving around with a police escort that is. And a dog is against company policy with alot of companies as well. As far as locking doors goes a lock is, "as I have been told a thousand times" only to keep the honest people honest. I have seen were thieves are better at opening your door than you are. As far as baseball bats and tire thumpers go. Well they are no match for a crackhead looking for a quick score if hes armed and your not. You have the right to your preferred method of protection why do you think its ok to deny me of mine. I believe it should be left to the individual to decide. That is what this nation is about everyone being able to do their own thing.

[Flatspot]

Classicxl, 'bout the only legal weapon a commercial driver can carry, is something like a dog! A tire-thumper against a gun is no match. A tire-thumper against some kind of chemical sprayed into the sleeper vents is no match.

But, since our occupation takes us into situations we can't control, we deserve some kind of dispensation in the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations which permit us to protect ourselves.

The most frightening moment I've had was in Cleveland. 6:30 AM, and folks are coming to work. I'm backed in to the dock. Big, mean, angry, looking black dude walking by says to me "Yo, dude. That's the wrong name to have on your truck!". Turns out the the name of the company I drove for at that time, is also the name of a rival gang in that neighborhood.

So, I'm left wondering if I will be dodging sniper fire on my way out of that part of town.

So, there I am with a tire-thumper against who-knows-what kind of fire-power, just wantin' to get out of that part of Dodge and get on with the business of earning a living.

If I'm engaged in the task of delivering goods and services to all parts of this nation, please allow me to defend myself against the crazies that I encounter.

Since 9/11, pilots on commercial aircraft now have the right to carry guns. Why can't I?

[classicxl]

the freedom to bear arms but honestly tell me you want every truck driver in america to carry a gun. Who is going to do the training to prepare people who have never fired a weapon in there lives. Then you have a whole bunch of folks who dont believe in firearms so how do they protect themselves. Crime is not that rampant at truckstops just to many stories being embelleshed by others

[terrylamar]

the freedom to bear arms but honestly tell me you want every truck driver in america to carry a gun.

No, I would like to see every willing adult, tained and allowed to carry where ever and when ever they desire, just like the Constitution says. There is no fear involved, just prepardness. You carry insurance on your vehicle, are you "scared" you are going to get in an accident?

[classicxl]

now your talking apples and oranges. People many years before any of us were born gave up there rights because they did not go vote and were scared by the powers to be about crime. So here we are in today's world where you have to get permits to carry a pistol and in some states that is not going to get it. states say you cant carry a weapon across there state line. People need to get involved to get there rights back but with the generation of liberals and sheep that have been raised good luck on that

[Flatspot]

First, there is the issue of *option* to carry arms.

Then there is the issue of the *right to carry arms*".
OK. I'm a professiional driver,and I don't wan't to carry a firearm.
OK. Don't carry one. Make it clearly understood between you and your employer that, as a condition of employment, you will not carry a firearem. Your empoyer has no qualms about stating conditions of employent: neither should you!

Become an ajitator. If the gonverment will not give you the rigit of self defense, then DEMAND gonvernment defense of you!

You have the right to vote, if you are a citizen. Then excersice your vote. Vote for those persons who will support you in your bid for self defense. Vote against those who will not support your bid for self defense.

The folks who want public office want to impose their view of life upon all others. The only way they can get there is if we vote them into office. We can just as easily vote them out of office. We can dictate to them just what their view of life should be, according to our majority view.

Give us the right to defend ourselves, or, enact laws which provide for our defense.

[Flatspot]

And even if the only protection you have is a dog, in many locations, if that dog bites anyone, you can be held liable on charges of assault and battery.

[SystemX]

Well, I'm afraid my vote goes against carrying a firearm in a CMV. Back in about 2000, in Indiana, several CB RAMBO's were having at it. You know the routine... "PULL IT OVER RIGHT NOW, AND I'LL SHOW YOU" The guy that pulled it over (I think it was Covenant) did so to relieve some bladder pressure. He knew nothing about any rambos. North American pulled it over right behind him, got out and crossed to the shoulder... And put two 9-MM slugs into Covenant's driver's chest, then got back into his truck and left. That happened about the 60 mile marker, or so. The police caught up with North American at about the 120 mile marker. Covenant was flown to the hospital by chopper.

If they allow guns in CMV's, who do you suppose is going to be the first to arm themselves? And, what do you suppose those RAMBOs are going to do with them? NO GUNS IN TRUCKS!!!!!

There are enough other alternatives that you DO NOT NEED ONE THAT BAD.

Ok how many times have u heard of that happening???
Well I drive local and pick up cash for my deliveries. In the FIRST 6 months of doing this I was robbed TWICE!!! Two Mclane food service drivers here in memphis were robbed and KILLED not long ago. A pepsi driver, and an HT Hackney driver were robbed at gunpoint. When I drove over the road, I picked up "high value" loads every once in a while. When I picked them up I wasnt allowed to stop for 200 miles b/c people would wait till a truck got loaded then follow them till they stop and then rob them. If an amored car can carry guns we should also be allowed to. We often carry the same load value maybe sometimes more!!! I drive a truck to feed and support my wife and 3 kids...I want to go to work and make an honest living, not be killed and not be able to come home to them!!! If your worried about "CB Rambo's" shooting you...when they start with their childish trash talkin...TURN OFF THE CB!!! Your CB does have an OFF button doesnt it??? And besides I dont really care about a LAW i would rather be caught by DOT with a gun than be caught without it by a thieving murderer!!!

[terrylamar]

You really don't think those aren't carrying anyway, do you? You are much safer on the road because bad guys think you may be carrying. You are deriving the benifits from the actions of the ones that do carry. You are safer because of them. Have you hugged your gun today?

[SystemX]

You really don't think those aren't carrying anyway, do you? You are much safer on the road because bad guys think you may be carrying. You are deriving the benifits from the actions of the ones that do carry. You are safer because of them. Have you hugged your gun today?

They were not worried about me carrying when they robbed me in my truck twice...Ive never been robbed at home...but either way I feel alot better carrying at home and on the road.

[SystemX]

There is no reason to be carrying a gun on a truck. You what you have tire thumper baseball bat whatever lock your doors get a dog and if your still scared your in the wrong profession

U obviously havent been robbed yet huh??? When u do get robbed u may think u are in the wrong profession!!! When u have a big GLASS window, a criminal wont even bother with a door lock. And if the criminal has a gun what is ur dog gonna do, eat his gun???