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Thread: CDL Class A Driver w/Hazmat for Dedicated Run

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    Default CDL Class A Driver w/Hazmat for Dedicated Run

    Company: Whitener Logistics of Hickory, NC

    Contact: Chuck or Lavonda Whitener

    Number: 828-324-6302

    Job Description: Pick up Stone Mt., GA Friday afternoon. Deliver to Newark, DE Sunday morning. Pick up Hanover, PA Monday morning. Deliver to Fountain Inn, SC Tuesday morning. This is a dedicated run with reefer trailer. Two years experience with Hazmat endorsement required.

    Pay: 40% of pay to truck which will amount to $680 per week for the driver, but he/she needs to buy his own occupational insurance and will be an independent contractor. Pay works out to approximately $ .42 per mile.
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    Man, that sounds like a deal!!!!

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    independent contractor=1099=bad for driver

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    That and having to pay his own occ. insurance on only 680 a week gross. Sounds like slave labor to me!!

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    The pay isn't the greatest in the world, but it's okay for the miles driven. I've seen positions posted on this forum that pay less per mile and yet, there are no smart comments about those. I can't change what is paid to the truck. If 40% of pay (average 42 cpm) doesn't work for you then it shouldn't worry you if by some chance it does work for someone else. This is also a position that gives the driver almost three days off each week. The company to which the truck is leased has also stated the driver may be able to make more if he wants to do another quick 1 or 2 day run from the Atlanta dock. But heck, if we increase the driver's percentage to more than 40% and we pay for fuel, then there's just no need to do this run for my company. We are looking to buy a late model truck just for this run. But, if the pay is so bad and nobody wants the job, we just won't buy the truck. Problem solved for all of us!

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    It's not really the pay, it's the 1099 deal. From what ive heard thats not even legal to do. Oh well not my business just thought it sounded fishy

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    I understand your concern on that, but from I've been told by the company to which I already lease a truck this is the way most of their truck owners pay their drivers. The company also pays the owners this way. Also, we run everything past our own accountant to make sure it will fly and he's pretty good about raising red flags when he's in doubt about anything. I guess the key here is independent contractor. In other words, none of us are under forced dispatch, but if we don't take what is offered to us and nothing else becomes available, there may not be a paycheck that week.

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    You are right Flatbedder !!! 1099 is a rip off at those rates. You are also responsible for filing 1/4 taxes, social security, medicare and one more I forgot (it's the age thing ) That .42 CPM comes down to about .28 CPM. Even more if Obama gets elected

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    It's just a matter of either taking responsibility for paying those taxes yourself or having someone else do it for you. The government's going to get its share whether an employer withholds the money or whether one takes care of it himself. I've noticed lower paying jobs on here, some of which pay about 30 or 32 cpm. I don't see anyone worrying (or making comments) about what's going to be left of that paycheck after taxes are paid.

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    You need to understand the tax system. On a regular job the driver only pays the employee portion, the employer pays their portion. On a 1099 the employee pays the whole nut, both employee and employer !!!
    Let me guess, you are leased to Great Wide ??????? The total bottom feeders of the industry !!!
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    Ohhhh what I forgot was your states work comp. depending on where you live 12.1% to 13.7% of you tax.

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    And you don't think that paying the extra 10 to 12cpm helps compensate for the difference? I don't know what the heck you want. I can't possibly pay any more to the driver. I'm trying to create a job for someone and it's not that big of a deal to me profit-wise. Actually, the company I'm dealing with is a major well known shipper, not the bottom feeder you mentioned.

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    Yep sounds like a Great Wide kinda deal !!! If I told my driver "I have this great deal for you. I am going to pay you .42 CPM but you have to pay all that Goverment stuff, yours plus mine, I would sleep in the garage cuz he wouldn't park the truck in the driveway he would drive it thru the house !!!
    Good luck in finding a newbie that neeeeeeeds a job, you will never find a good driver that is just looking for a change.

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    Well, maybe I needed to hear all this. I am trying to be a good truck owner. My current driver has no complaints. I put the ad here to see what kind of response I would get. The company told me what the run would pay and I have to work within that framework. I thought 40% of gross paid to the truck sounded like a pretty good deal. Evidently, that is not the case, but I sure can't pay any more than that. I saw an ad on here this evening promising 20% of gross, but that doesn't seem to matter. I think that for the miles driven and the days off, this is not really that bad of a deal. But, this particular run is a completely new deal to me and I placed the ad here before buying the truck. Since this is obviously not a good deal for the driver, it won't be that great of a deal for my company either. So, I'm inclined to not go forward with the deal. Again though, this is a division of a major world-wide company with deep pockets, so I also have to believe that they do this on a regular basis. I've been fairly happy with my past dealings with them though.

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    Well, if you want to be a "good truck owner" work the numbers ! Look at what the run is paying then figure the normal owners expcpense (All the variouse taxes etc.) then quote a CPM , not this if/and/maybe. And, Oh, they getting paid down time, layover etc. ??
    To someone who has been out here a while these are important as opposed to a real newbie, what do you want ?? someone who knows how to run a truck or someone right outa driving school ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckwvp View Post
    And you don't think that paying the extra 10 to 12cpm helps compensate for the difference? I don't know what the heck you want. I can't possibly pay any more to the driver. I'm trying to create a job for someone and it's not that big of a deal to me profit-wise. Actually, the company I'm dealing with is a major well known shipper, not the bottom feeder you mentioned.

    There are a LOT of well known shippers out there. There are a LOT of well known shippers out there that don't pay their bills. There are also a LOT of well known shippers who pay dirt cheap...just because they can find a truck owner willing to work the truck dirt cheap.

    In your ad...you say the truck runs from Stone Mt., GA Friday afternoon to deliver in Newark, DE Sunday morning (747 short miles)...deadheads(aprox 105 miles) across to pick up in Hanover, PA on Monday morning, then delivers to Fountain Inn, SC on Tuesday morning (567 miles) then deadheads back to home area {maybe Stone Mountian GA?} (150 miles) for a total of approximately 1986 miles of driving.

    Now...You said the pay works out to approximately 42 cents per mile at 40% of the truck pay. Really though...it doesn't....... does it!!! If the pay were 42 cents per mile driven, the weekly wage would be $834.12( just for the driving portion). But...like so many companies, you expect the driver on the truck to perform plenty of duties for free. Like empty miles are driven for free. How about the loading and unloading of the freight? Is each pallet finger printed? Given the offered wages I would venture to say ...Yeah...that driver is going to be loading and unloading a few thousand pounds of freight for free....at each stop! Oh...right...it's all included in that 40% of the truck rate!!! IF the 40% to the driver really were $680.00, that means the truck would be receiving approximately $1700.00. :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    Why would you consider spending money to buy a truck to haul freight for .86 cents per mile(approximately)??? Are you aware that 86 CPM puts you hauling not just cheap freight....but super cheap freight?? That well known shipper must be loving all the truck owners working for them!!!

    NO WONDER you want the driver to work on a 1099 and pay his own taxes.

    What a deal you are offering that driver!!
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    I believe the IRS loves little deals like this.
    They even have a special form for them.
    You take it cheap, what's to motivate them to ever give you a raise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangetxguy View Post
    There are a LOT of well known shippers out there. There are a LOT of well known shippers out there that don't pay their bills. There are also a LOT of well known shippers who pay dirt cheap...just because they can find a truck owner willing to work the truck dirt cheap.

    In your ad...you say the truck runs from Stone Mt., GA Friday afternoon to deliver in Newark, DE Sunday morning (747 short miles)...deadheads(aprox 105 miles) across to pick up in Hanover, PA on Monday morning, then delivers to Fountain Inn, SC on Tuesday morning (567 miles) then deadheads back to home area {maybe Stone Mountian GA?} (150 miles) for a total of approximately 1986 miles of driving.

    Now...You said the pay works out to approximately 42 cents per mile at 40% of the truck pay. Really though...it doesn't....... does it!!! If the pay were 42 cents per mile driven, the weekly wage would be $834.12( just for the driving portion). But...like so many companies, you expect the driver on the truck to perform plenty of duties for free. Like empty miles are driven for free. How about the loading and unloading of the freight? Is each pallet finger printed? Given the offered wages I would venture to say ...Yeah...that driver is going to be loading and unloading a few thousand pounds of freight for free....at each stop! Oh...right...it's all included in that 40% of the truck rate!!! IF the 40% to the driver really were $680.00, that means the truck would be receiving approximately $1700.00. :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    Why would you consider spending money to buy a truck to haul freight for .86 cents per mile(approximately)??? Are you aware that 86 CPM puts you hauling not just cheap freight....but super cheap freight?? That well known shipper must be loving all the truck owners working for them!!!

    NO WONDER you want the driver to work on a 1099 and pay his own taxes.

    What a deal you are offering that driver!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR SILVER View Post
    very well put...........

    LOL....What I failed to include there....I ran my truck 2489 miles last week. The truck grossed $6,365, after fuel, insurance and taxes netted about $3,800.

    If I paid a driver 40% of that net, the driver would gross $1,520. That is a huge difference for just 500 miles extra, and comes out to just a bit more than 62 cents per mile.




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    Maybe I should leverage myself a few more trucks and hire a bunch of drivers willing to work dirt cheap!!!
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    well when you say your paying the driver 40%, thats of teh gross not your net if your goin to pay 40% of net make sure you clarify that, as ive been driving for over 16yrs and its you pay of the gross not the net unless you specify such.. Cause that cause's a rift if your driver happens to see what the load pays and then figures your not actually paying off gross u might end up w/abandoned truck..

    just fyi

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