question about my diesel engine and gas

[helpmegettocali]

I am driving cross country in my 1988 school bus. It has a 8.2l detroit engine. Someone told me i could run the bus on reefer fuel as it is cheaper. Can someone with knowledge of the road and engines contact me with the answer. Thanks.
Mike
mikestanley@gmail.com

[Roadhog]

I ain't gonna send you an email. How about I post my reply here.

If there is a separate pump for reefer fuel, it's probably what we call Off-road or construction and farm fuel, and it is dyed red. (#2 LSD)
Some stations even offer Kerosene, which is often used in heaters up North.

We distinguish reefer fuel from road fuel for tax purposes. The fuel is the same, but if used in your reefer it's not given the road tax. (and it's limited to 50 gals)
When we go to pump fuel, we have to push a button showing we intend to pump both truck and reefer fuel. This keeps our receipt separated.

If you are caught running the red dye fuel on the road, you can get a big fine.
I've never had anyone check my fuel tanks, but I think if you were to get caught, it might be when you pump, some damn Nazi see's you and reports you.

[helpmegettocali]

So if i did get the fuel, i could only get 50 gallons at a time?
Would mixing the 2 fuels mess with my engine?
I am trying to save every penny possible for the 3100 mile trip.
also i max out at 53 mph, i am going via florida to st louis then west, will i get a ticket fior going to slow?

[Mackman]

So if i did get the fuel, i could only get 50 gallons at a time?
Would mixing the 2 fuels mess with my engine?
I am trying to save every penny possible for the 3100 mile trip.
also i max out at 53 mph, i am going via florida to st louis then west, will i get a ticket fior going to slow?

your good to go. The fuel will not hurt anything. And you wont get a ticket for going to sslow.

[Roadhog]

At a commercial fuel station, our road and reefer fuel comes from the same pump. We have to push a button to designate reefer fuel from road fuel.
It's for tax purposes. When you push the button on the pump for reefer fuel only, the pump will shut off after 50 gals.

What you could do is push the button for both truck and reefer fuel...and at least get 50 gals cheaper. Leave yourself room for topping off with the 50 gals you are allowed on reefer.

There are stations that have a separate pump that offers "off road fuel."
As far as the "off road" pump (red dye fuel)... will it bother your motor?... nawah.

Here is a link to state speed limits. >> Speed limits in the United States

Most of the minimum speeds on interstate roads are 40-45, but there are a few roads that require a minimum of 50mph, so you will be okay. I would keep to the interstate roads as much as you can, as there will be less starting and stopping, and easier on your brakes. If you go on secondary roads, just don't let too much traffic back up behind you for very long. You risk getting an "impeding traffic" ticket....and there goes all the money you might have saved on fuel.

Come to think of it... saving a few shekels on fuel is a good plan... avoiding the Bears is more important.

[Jackrabbit379]

So if i did get the fuel, i could only get 50 gallons at a time?
Would mixing the 2 fuels mess with my engine?
I am trying to save every penny possible for the 3100 mile trip.
also i max out at 53 mph, i am going via florida to st louis then west, will i get a ticket fior going to slow?

The only difference between the 2, is that the non-tax, or farm diesel is dyed. It's red, and the road diesel is clear.
You could run the red diesel in your bus, but if you get caught, you won't be driving that bus anytime soon. If you can find someone to sell you "clear" farm diesel, then get after it. If they dip your tank, and it's pink, you are tattooed.

[helpmegettocali]

do any of you see them checking peoples gas color?
adding 50 gallons to the 150 gallons would help me a lot,,,, does anyone know what the fine is if they bust me? this sucks being taxed,,,,,,hang the king

[Mackman]

do any of you see them checking peoples gas color?
adding 50 gallons to the 150 gallons would help me a lot,,,, does anyone know what the fine is if they bust me? this sucks being taxed,,,,,,hang the king

I think the fine is around 85 dollars. Dont worry about it. Just get to cali u hippie.

[eplurubus]

do any of you see them checking peoples gas color?

My tank was dipped at the Rapid City, SD scale last summer.

[Bigmon]

They're more likely to question your sanity for going to CA.

[classictruckman]

I think the fine is around 85 dollars. Dont worry about it. Just get to cali u hippie.

around here I've been told the fine is $5000 if they catch any red dye in your fuel system.

[Orangetxguy]

do any of you see them checking peoples gas color?
adding 50 gallons to the 150 gallons would help me a lot,,,, does anyone know what the fine is if they bust me? this sucks being taxed,,,,,,hang the king

California does a fuel check regularly. That is because of all the agriculture in California.

Being in a bus, and the type tank "neck" involved, you are probably safe from the tax man, but in those states where they check particulate emissions...like California...you will get hung. Red dyed diesel has a chemical in it, that purposely emits heavier particulates (that is the black smoke) now.

Part of the penalty for tax evasion can include losing the vehicle.

As far as buying "reefer fuel" at the pumps........more power to you.

[Kranky]

do any of you see them checking peoples gas color?

IT"S NOT "GAS", IT'S DIESEL FUEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

adding 50 gallons to the 150 gallons would help me a lot,,,, does anyone know what the fine is if they bust me? this sucks being taxed,,,,,,hang the king

Around here they dip tanks randomly too, if they find red fuel, you're screwed! It doesn't take much red fuel to turn an entire tankful "illegal".
Don't do it!!!!!!!!!

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[bob h]

California does a fuel check regularly. That is because of all the agriculture in California.

Being in a bus, and the type tank "neck" involved, you are probably safe from the tax man, but in those states where they check particulate emissions...like California...you will get hung. Red dyed diesel has a chemical in it, that purposely emits heavier particulates (that is the black smoke) now.

Part of the penalty for tax evasion can include losing the vehicle.

As far as buying "reefer fuel" at the pumps........more power to you.

There are NO additives put into diesel fuel that increase particulate emissions.

[bob h]

I think the fine is around 85 dollars. Dont worry about it. Just get to cali u hippie.

IRC Sec. 6715 (1) shows a minimum fine of $1000 or $10 per gallon, whichever is higher.

[Mackman]

Just to let you all know. I do know the fine is more then 85 bucks. I was just saying that to get the hippie to cali in his bus. LOL