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    I let someone use my truck and they ran out of fuel. Put fuel in and won't start. I didn't want to keep cranking it and drain the batteries. I there a procedure to restart? It's a S-60 engine.

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    Pull off the fuel filter and refill it. There may be a hand pump, and places to "crack" open the fuel lines. Call a detroit shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allan5oh View Post
    Pull off the fuel filter and refill it. There may be a hand pump, and places to "crack" open the fuel lines. Call a detroit shop.
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    There is not a way around it either. No amount of cranking will do anything other than destroy your starter. If this is beyond what you can or will do, it should only take a good roadside mechanic 10 minutes or so to get you going again.

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    as would I, if you had a Volvo.

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    electric fuel pump plumed into the feul line just before the mechanical fuel pump turn pump on wait about 2 mins for fuel pump to pressure up and start engine, run for about a min or so then disconnect the electric pump and rehook the line from the tank nack up to the mechanical fuel pump, has worked for us for yrs when ever a detroit has run out of fuel.

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    Thanks for the input. Glad I didn't keep cranking it. It has a Davco filter. Looks like there is a cap that comes off the top to fill it. Davco says this is the procedure when you first install a Davco.

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    That probably won't fix it. You need to purge the air.

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    I put fuel into the filter and it started after a few cranks. Thanks for all your help.

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    You got lucky!

    Usually when it's completely bone dry, just filling the filter won't do anything, as the pump cannot suck it up anyways.

    I'm willing to bet it wasn't completely dry.

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    You were lucky mate. I run one dry in a K104 several years ago and it was a major PITA!!! We needed an electric fuel pump to pressure diesiel through the fuel lines and if memory serves there were two bleeders that had to be opened to get the fuel right through the system. It definitely wasnt a 2 minute job. First sign that the sucker is about to run out just pull over and shut down ASAFP!!
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    I've always been able to fill up the fuel filter, crank till its dry, then fill it up and crank etc...and its started for me. Made sure to let the starter cool between cranks but has always worked.

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    Don't people use Ether anymore? I've started bone dry engines on it in the past after running out of fuel. Granted, it wasn't my truck either.

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    Ether belongs in the garbage can.

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    Where would you put Ether ? I don't have a carburetor and I don't have the # to call Steve Booth.

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    Spray it in the air intake.

    Used to be able to spec an ether injector on a new truck for the cold climates.

    Back in the 80s sometimes we'd reach out the window while pulling a hill and spray some ether into the air intake on them old Mack 237s for a little more power and some laughs.
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    You can actually get a truck to run on ether. It ain't pretty, but it will work. I know that with the newer engines, I've heard that it will do damage to all the special gizmos inside the engine, but it will work in a pinch.

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    If used incorrectly, it will blow gaskets everywhere, maybe even break a few rings. It's very violent stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allan5oh View Post
    If used incorrectly, it will blow gaskets everywhere, maybe even break a few rings. It's very violent stuff.
    That's half the fun though.

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    I ran out last spring. boss sent a mach. with fuel. 55 series Detroit and we couldn't get it to pick up. Tiny shot of ether and it cranked right up. That brings up another point. We got 2 2002 9400 IH's this spring. They were Safeway trucks in California and they don't have block heaters. Do they still make those that slip in the dipstick hole?? We need heaters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowdoc View Post
    I ran out last spring. boss sent a mach. with fuel. 55 series Detroit and we couldn't get it to pick up. Tiny shot of ether and it cranked right up. That brings up another point. We got 2 2002 9400 IH's this spring. They were Safeway trucks in California and they don't have block heaters. Do they still make those that slip in the dipstick hole?? We need heaters.
    There's just a pipe plug where a fuel heater would go. Buy a fuel heater for your engine and pull the plug and stick the heater in the hole. Drain the coolant first.
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