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Thread: Problem with Kleenoil bypass system

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    Default Problem with Kleenoil bypass system

    I honestly can't say I recommend this system. It's quite pricey, and for the price the quality just isn't there. Last night I had one of the press-in brass fittings come out, and I lost over half my oil in the interstate. Middle of the night jury rigging, plus a 2 mile round trip to a 24-hour walmart and I got going again, 3 hours later.

    I guess there wasn't enough "press" in the press-fit fitting.

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    How did you become aware of the loss of oil ...warning light ?

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    One of the biggest reasons that the old style Luberfiner filters were done away with, leaking or broken lines. or road debris taking a line out.

    The truck manufacturers thought that the less lines (oil or water) would be a better way to go.

    Cat does not recomend water filters soley because of line breakage dumping your water on the road, they recomend using only the additive in the cooling system.

    While I do believe that some of the aftermarket filters do work very well, my opinion of extended oil intervals is this is NOT the place to skimp on maintenance, if 5 or 6 more oil changes mean that much to your bottom line, then you are already in trouble.

    And this comment is NOT directed at anyone in particular, so dont shoot the messenger Just my opinion thats all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maniac
    While I do believe that some of the aftermarket filters do work very well, my opinion of extended oil intervals is this is NOT the place to skimp on maintenance, if 5 or 6 more oil changes mean that much to your bottom line, then you are already in trouble.

    And this comment is NOT directed at anyone in particular, so dont shoot the messenger Just my opinion thats all.
    I understand, but there is a common misconception that you need to change your oil every X or so. Look at the new Cummins engines, cummins recommends changing the oil every 50,000 miles if you use the right filters and oil. That's an EGR engine no less. Todays oils are getting better and better, and now with ULSD, sulphuric acid is pretty much out of the picture too. Of course doing a used oil analysis is very important, there's no point in "winging it".

    Yes bob, warning light came on for a split second. The sump started sucking air. The engine was turned off instantly, I hope I didn't hurt it. I'll check the codes, it might just be a low oil warning light, not a low oil pressure warning light. I really hope it's the first.

    The lines are done very well, stainless steel braided with another hose around it. The problem wasn't the install, but original manufacture.

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    I'm not 100% sure the sump started sucking air, I am assuming so. I'll check the codes tomorrow.

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    Did you have to shut the engine off, or did it have an automatic shut down ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allan5oh
    Quote Originally Posted by Maniac
    While I do believe that some of the aftermarket filters do work very well, my opinion of extended oil intervals is this is NOT the place to skimp on maintenance, if 5 or 6 more oil changes mean that much to your bottom line, then you are already in trouble.

    And this comment is NOT directed at anyone in particular, so dont shoot the messenger Just my opinion thats all.
    I understand, but there is a common misconception that you need to change your oil every X or so. Look at the new Cummins engines, cummins recommends changing the oil every 50,000 miles if you use the right filters and oil. That's an EGR engine no less. Todays oils are getting better and better, and now with ULSD, sulphuric acid is pretty much out of the picture too. Of course doing a used oil analysis is very important, there's no point in "winging it".

    Yes bob, warning light came on for a split second. The sump started sucking air. The engine was turned off instantly, I hope I didn't hurt it. I'll check the codes, it might just be a low oil warning light, not a low oil pressure warning light. I really hope it's the first.

    The lines are done very well, stainless steel braided with another hose around it. The problem wasn't the install, but original manufacture.

    i doubt that your engine would have a level sensor
    Bob H

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby
    Did you have to shut the engine off, or did it have an automatic shut down ?
    It beeped once, I hit the clutch, pulled it out of gear, and shut it off. Even if it did use the automatic shut down(I think volvos take about 5-6 seconds) it would still be in gear.

    It has had zero oil pressure before, when it's really cold.

    i doubt that your engine would have a level sensor
    That's what I figured.

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