What brand filters do you like, and why ?

[Jackrabbit379]

..and my John Deere gets,John Deere filters. :P

[Buzzard 21]

I was just at the Cat shop and they told me the biggest complaint that they get on their filters is that they plug up to fast. Think about it isn't that what a filter is suppose to do. If the filter never plugs up is it really doing it's job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bob h]

..and my John Deere gets,John Deere filters. :P

...and my destroyit gets ddc filters, and my cummins gets fleetguard, and my gm gets delco.......... i'm quite pig-headed about this stuff : (

[bob h]

I was just at the Cat shop and they told me the biggest complaint that they get on their filters is that they plug up to fast. Think about it isn't that what a filter is suppose to do. If the filter never plugs up is it really doing it's job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

L O L !!!

i'm sure they recieved that comment in the form of a complaint as well ;0)

[jcschotty]

I know for a fact that Caterpillar filters are not made by Wix.

Watch out what you say. I work for a truck parts store in Oregon and Washington and we are a Baldwin Distributer. All of the major filter brands (Cat, Wix, Fleetgaurd, Baldwin,...) all buy out from each other. It is impossible for them to produce this many diffrent filters. Try cutting open a few diffrent filters, you might be suprised at what you find.

[bob h]

I know for a fact that Caterpillar filters are not made by Wix.

Watch out what you say. I work for a truck parts store in Oregon and Washington and we are a Baldwin Distributer. All of the major filter brands (Cat, Wix, Fleetgaurd, Baldwin,...) all buy out from each other. It is impossible for them to produce this many diffrent filters. Try cutting open a few diffrent filters, you might be suprised at what you find.

each year, i cut open at least 30 different filters; different makes, part #s, applications, etc.............

............ maybe you should tell me which one you think is similar in construction to a cat brand filter, because it is obvously one that i have never encountered

[heavyhaulerss]

o.k. i know that i cannot tell which oil filter is better by looking at 2 of them cut open on a display counter. why ? because i dont know what i'm looking for or how it filters when in actual use. but i can tell you when i change oil in my detroit when using fleetguard... i notice the oil gets black after couple thousand miles. with the donaldson filters, the oil stays cleaner looking longer. i have done this dozens of times. always the same result. it appears to me, in my unscientific test ... that the donaldson filter.. filters better than fleetguard..

[bob h]

o.k. i know that i cannot tell which oil filter is better by looking at 2 of them cut open on a display counter. why ? because i dont know what i'm looking for or how it filters when in actual use. but i can tell you when i change oil in my detroit when using fleetguard... i notice the oil gets black after couple thousand miles. with the donaldson filters, the oil stays cleaner looking longer. i have done this dozens of times. always the same result. it appears to me, in my unscientific test ... that the donaldson filter.. filters better than fleetguard..

and again..., use ddc filters on your ddc engine - fleetguard is designed for cummins diesels imo, maybe donaldson makes ddc filters ???

when i do an oil change on any of my diesels (6.2L through 14.6L pre-egr diesels), the engine oil is black again by the time i have oil pressure =)

[Bobby]

I know for a fact that Caterpillar filters are not made by Wix.

Watch out what you say. I work for a truck parts store in Oregon and Washington and we are a Baldwin Distributer. All of the major filter brands (Cat, Wix, Fleetgaurd, Baldwin,...) all buy out from each other. It is impossible for them to produce this many diffrent filters. Try cutting open a few diffrent filters, you might be suprised at what you find.

You need to consider how big Caterpillar is, and the amount of earth moving equipment they produce and have in service.

Their Huge.... 3rd quarter of 06 they employed 93,000+
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caterpillar,_Inc.

[bob h]

I know for a fact that Caterpillar filters are not made by Wix.

Watch out what you say. I work for a truck parts store in Oregon and Washington and we are a Baldwin Distributer. All of the major filter brands (Cat, Wix, Fleetgaurd, Baldwin,...) all buy out from each other. It is impossible for them to produce this many diffrent filters. Try cutting open a few diffrent filters, you might be suprised at what you find.

You need to consider how big Caterpillar is, and the amount of earth moving equipment they produce and have in service.

Their Huge.... 3rd quarter of 06 they employed 96,000+
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caterpillar,_Inc.

cat's truck engine market is nothing more than testing grounds for their heavy equipment engines - research and development

[kb_33]

Just to clear up a couple things.

DDC filters are generally made by Donaldson, the new DD15 engine is an exception.

CAT nylon plastic inner liners are actually more expensive than standard tin plate liners used by most of the industry.

[duck]

Of the 3 c12's I have seen in the last 2 years with the pistons in the bore sideways and the block damaged and - well essentially the engine shot to the point where only a shortblock or longblock is an acceptable repair - they ALL have run Baldwin filters. Did the filter cause it? I can't say but I do know that 3 engines and 3 sets of Baldwins - I wouldn't take those odds - just something I noticed is all.

The new CAT DPF engines - you MUST run exactly what CAT specifies and that is the CAT filter.

[bob h]

Of the 3 c12's I have seen in the last 2 years with the pistons in the bore sideways and the block damaged and - well essentially the engine shot to the point where only a shortblock or longblock is an acceptable repair - they ALL have run Baldwin filters. Did the filter cause it? I can't say but I do know that 3 engines and 3 sets of Baldwins - I wouldn't take those odds - just something I noticed is all.

The new CAT DPF engines - you MUST run exactly what CAT specifies and that is the CAT filter.

Those failures are likely caused by the freed wrist pin retainer getting lodged between the piston skirt and cylinder wall.

[duck]

Bob, yeah that was the cause but like I said of the ones we have seen EACH AND EVERYONE was running Baldwins. Just something I noticed.

We won't even stock them here. You are pretty much limited to CAT or Fleeguard.

[Dejanh]

Last two fleetguard fuel filters i've used plugged up at about 7K miles.

Had to change 'em twice on the road.


I bought me a original DD filters that ran me ONLY 2$ more than a piece of ***** fleetguard fuel filters..

Their oil filters are alright, but them fuel ones are really crappy..

[bob h]

Last two fleetguard fuel filters i've used plugged up at about 7K miles.

Had to change 'em twice on the road.


I bought me a original DD filters that ran me ONLY 2$ more than a piece of ***** fleetguard fuel filters..

Their oil filters are alright, but them fuel ones are really crappy..

so........ you feel that you would be better off if those fuel contaminants were NOT trapped by a filter? If a filter is "plugged up", ...it has done its job.


The only time that fuel filter plugging is an ISSUE is;

1. if the micron rating of the filter is too low.

2. if the fuel system is NOT properly maintained.

I.e. - either you've installed the wrong filter. Or the fuel system is full of dirty, contaminated, and/or water-saturated fuel.