User Tag List

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 12-15-2006, 02:49 AM
81westernstar's Avatar
Rookie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default 81 western star suspension.

I recently bought a 81 western star dump that has neway air ride suspension when it's loaded the truck drifts all over the road Im constantly having to counter steer it all the tires are in great shape and properly inflated I have no idea what going on with it any help would be greatly appreciated.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-15-2006, 05:07 AM
stranger's Avatar
Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 59
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

Check the bushings on the trailing arms. The arms that connect the axle to the frame mount. Your truck may have a track arm from the frame rail to the top of the axle. Check these bushings also.

The Neway system mounts similar to the old Hendrickson walking beam suspension. Tight bushings mean everything.

If all bushings are OK, then replace shocks, which might not be a bad idea anyway.

The large Neway air bags mixed with dump bodies don't make for the most stable of suspensions.

I have seen drivers put two ride height valves on to stabilize the truck.

One mounted to the far right of the axle to control the right side air bags, and one on the far left to do the same for that side.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-15-2006, 05:17 PM
81westernstar's Avatar
Rookie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

Thanks for your reply I was thinking the bushings needed to be changed the truck has 341,000 miles and there starting to show some signs of wear. Someone has already put the two ride height valves on it but Im not sure if there working Im taking it to the shop today to have someone look at it I will probably have a spring suspension suspension installed.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-15-2006, 06:24 PM
yoopr's Avatar
Board Icon
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,859
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Default

Might want to check your Levelers.
Maybe one is out of Whack.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-16-2006, 01:59 AM
81westernstar's Avatar
Rookie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

Thanks for your reply whats the best method for checking the levelers. Im sorry about all the ?'s but I have no clue what Im doing when it comes to air ride.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-16-2006, 03:52 AM
Mackman's Avatar
Senior Board Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Concordville PA
Posts: 3,841
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 81westernstar
I will probably have a spring suspension suspension installed.
In a dump truck that is the only way to go.
__________________
Truck Driving an occupation consisting of hours of boredom interrupted by sheer terror!!

"All the coolie carriers suck. Log 70, work 80-100, paid for 50." - the Great ColdFrostyMug


Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-16-2006, 06:47 PM
81westernstar's Avatar
Rookie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

Thanks for all of your replys I've decided to replace the trailing arm bushings and the shocks the torque rods and bushings have already been replaced. The shop I took it to said it would be $2600.00 for labor does this sound about right.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-16-2006, 08:08 PM
special k's Avatar
Board Regular
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 252
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

Where I live thats about right. I'd stay with the air ride a lot of new dumps are coming with air because they save the truck from so much pounding. If it's actually unsafe or you're breaking a lot of parts then think about changing it but if it just drives different than spring than I'd stay with it. Don't forget there is different weight raings for neway if your's is a light one you might be able to upgrade it to the heavier type.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-17-2006, 11:22 PM
81westernstar's Avatar
Rookie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

Do any of you know of a website I can order trailing arm bushings and shocks from.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-17-2006, 11:55 PM
bob h's Avatar
Senior Board Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Nb
Posts: 752
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 81westernstar
Thanks for all of your replys I've decided to replace the trailing arm bushings and the shocks the torque rods and bushings have already been replaced. The shop I took it to said it would be $2600.00 for labor does this sound about right.
no
__________________
Bob H
Reply With Quote
Reply






Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 10:18 PM.


User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.