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    Default Auto-idle shutdown question

    I have an '07 International with a Cummins ISX. The truck is equipped with an auto-shutdown if the truck idles more than 5 minutes.

    To bypass it, you have to sit and wait 4 mins, 30 secs, wait for a light to start flashing on the dash, and tap the throttle. Then it'll run till it's out of fuel if you let it.

    I've tried to bypass it by bumping up the throttle with the cruise control (which does work), but even then, 5 mins later, it'll shut down.

    Is there a way to quickly bypass this? Meaning, if I stop, and know I want the truck to stay running, hit a button/switch/whatever when I stop, and it'll stay running?

    I don't want to attempt to alter anything (company truck) and none of the mechanics know if it can be done or not.

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    I don't want to attempt to alter anything (company truck) and none of the mechanics know if it can be done or not.

    I'd just wait the 4 minutes to reset the Idle cruise.

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    A friend of mine has a Volvo that does this. If you just let it idle, it will shut down. If you hit resume on cruise it will rev up to 700 rpm and run all night. On ISX if you hit resume or set with cruise turned off that will adjust your idle speed by 25 rpm increments but it will still shut down. You have to have the cruise turned on to go to fast idle. However if this is your own truck your dealer can disable the idle shutdown using their computer.

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    This is a setting on the computer software it can be changed BUT that might be what your company wants it to be

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    Why would you want to keep the engine running?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyMtnProDriver
    Why would you want to keep the engine running?
    Maybe he likes his A/C or heater when sleeping.

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    RockyMtnProDriver wrote:
    Why would you want to keep the engine running?


    Maybe he likes his A/C or heater when sleeping
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    Ya - there's just something I like about being comfortable...

    I tried the bumping up of the idle, but it'll still do the auto-shutdown.

    I'll just have to live with the 5 minute wait, I guess. I just wish it'd give a warning beep or something prior to it shutting down. Just so I don't have to sit here and stare at the dash waiting for a light to start flashing.

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    My boss some years ago, picked up a new tractor, it was cold and snowing hard. Well after seeing a few in the ditch, he thought it would be a good idea to have a snooze. Five minutes... shutdown ? Five minutes... shutdown ? He put his boot on the throttle.... shutdown ! Well he had to drive home that night, :lol: Now he knows what it's like for us, when we have to! We have to about 100 nights a winter!

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    With all the government rules coversing safety, I would think it would be illegal to force a driver to sleep in a rig with no heat, especially up here in Minnesota where the temps can drop to 20 degrees below zero on some nights.
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    I'M sorry if I've miss-led you ops: It was fixed at the dealer the next day, we don't have to drive all night because of that, we have other reasons. Sorry for the confusion ops:

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    Default Re: Auto-idle shutdown question

    Quote Originally Posted by Malaki86
    I have an '07 International with a Cummins ISX. The truck is equipped with an auto-shutdown if the truck idles more than 5 minutes.

    To bypass it, you have to sit and wait 4 mins, 30 secs, wait for a light to start flashing on the dash, and tap the throttle. Then it'll run till it's out of fuel if you let it.

    I've tried to bypass it by bumping up the throttle with the cruise control (which does work), but even then, 5 mins later, it'll shut down.

    Is there a way to quickly bypass this? Meaning, if I stop, and know I want the truck to stay running, hit a button/switch/whatever when I stop, and it'll stay running?

    I don't want to attempt to alter anything (company truck) and none of the mechanics know if it can be done or not.
    This is an adjustable parameter in the engine ECM, as long as a tech with C's software has a password, it can be easily changed. be aware that no matter how this issue is approached, the owner can still acquire "idle hours" information from an ECM download. Tell the boss to buy a webasto!
    Bob H

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    FYI
    There is no state or city laws anywhere in the US that prevent you from idling under hours of service ...sleeper

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    Quote Originally Posted by watevr777
    FYI
    There is no state or city laws anywhere in the US that prevent you from idling under hours of service ...sleeper
    Think you'd better check NY on that one. I've seen a driver get a ticket for idling at 15 degrees. Also, NJ has cops parked in the service areas along the turnpike just looking for someone to idle his truck.
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    I have an International 9400 I, and fought with the 5 minute idle shutdown for months. I was in electronics and found a way to do it. I had a small circuit board made
    and inserted in line with the cruise control wiring. I can idle forever now. I only do it to keep my batteries charged when the refrigerator is running, and to keep warm when it is cold\
    It would be nice to have an APU, but they are expensive. I can make you a kit to get the truck to idle for about $125. kitchnmn@yahoo.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitchnmn View Post
    I have an International 9400........
    Holy BUMP, Batman. I think bumping a seven year old post has got to be a record!
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