Schneider behaving badly

[Giannisz]

Default Schneider behaving badly

I was fired Friday by Schneider. The reason they give is that i falsified my application. In 2002 I was convicted for misdemeanors disturbing the peace and resisting arrest. Bogus charges, but they stuck and are in my record.
I applied to Schneider early March to work on bulk division, but failed the bulk specific physical when i lost my balance. I then went to Northeast regional with a 7 day orientation, and 2 weeks with trainer, plus 5 days extra qualifying.
First week out i have a stop at a supermarket in Yonkers, NY. After waiting 1 hour for opening to the one dock, I dock and go inside. An hour goes by nobody touches my freight. After 45 minutes i had asked if im missing something, should i unload it myself or what. They reply no, they dont have anywhere to put it, they got to make space. Finally i see some movement, but as i said at the hour mark one of their own tractor trailers comes in and after a while they order me off the dock so he can unload his freight.
I go to my truck and as i pull out i notice cars had taken up metered spaces i had used to sight side back, sight side back is not an option anymore, the other 2 trucks are going to blind side back. I was not happy, no room to hang around the area so i drove to a service plaza 15 minutes away and macroed the situation, and that i didnt want to take the risk of blind side backing on my own. The dbl( driver manager) got back to me and told me to go right back and blind side with the managers help. I figured that the other tractor trailer was done by now and went back to the store and i docked, and got unloaded then headed to the 2nd stop of the day. As i was leaving they canceled the next day's trip, and a little later sent me equipment macro to take my trailer to NJ, meaning they had already decided to fire me. Me I thought I had done my job except for voicing my concern on the qualcom, so i was suprised the next morning the dbl told me he had bad news, that they had found out I had falsified my application by not telling about my misdemeanor convictions in 2002. I knew that there was no way i had made a mistake, and after checking the application process i saw that as a Massachusetts resident i was directed to answer no to the question if it was a minor misdemeanor like disturbing the peace or a misdemeanor older than 5 years old. They are breaking the law and i dont know if i will pursue unemployment benefits which would be a slamdunk.
I'd rather get a job soon, but i'm asking for any advise to make sure they won't stain my DAC report and any other recourse i might have to pursue.
This is the way they operate fill up your head with all kinds of crap about safety ie: boots, seatbelts, how to crank dolly etc, but bottom line is they want you to take all kinds of risks, but if you scrach something come down on you like a ton of bricks. Like the Schneider driver who told me he had 14 violations of the 14 hour rule in the last whatever months. Can you imagine the touble he would be in if somebody ran into him at those times?
Plus the fact that the stop i had, special instructions were to ignore anybody saying that 53 foot trailers were not allowed. I'm sorry for how long this is

[marcel27208]

Id fight it because its gonna hurt your employment record sooner or later, and especially your DAC.....good luck....

[VPIDarkAngel]

I only have three words to say. "Get a lawyer."
I would also like to know how this ends up.

[conanj31]

I work for Schneider and have for many years. It seems like you're trying to say that Schneider MADE you do something you weren't supposed to legally do on your stop up there. If your stop delivers somewhere where there are '53 ft trailer restrictions, you STILL have to deliver your load. You're allowed to go in there with your trailer wherever that may be. As far as that grocery store issue you had up there, non of that is Schneiders fault. It's the grocery store. And you were all ready there. Yes they told you to move so their truck could back in and yes there may have been no where to go but you can't decide not to go back once you've been there. That's your job, blind side or not. If everybody refused to deliver to a grocery store because a few cars were in the way then nobody would be getting any deliveries. Thats the nature of the beast with grocery stores. Wait till you have to deliver in Brooklyn or the Bronx. You said Schneider wants you to take all kinds of risks. That's complete bs and you know this. Blind side backing is a risk? If thats the case, you better not drive for any company. Besides, it seems you barely worked for Schneider so how could you even determine something as being risky? As far as your application, Schneider isn't breaking any laws. Whether they want to hire you based on your past is their discretion regardless of how old any conviction. Why were you all ready driving for them? Governments are sometimes slow in getting back to an employer with background checks.

[mitchno1]

I work for Schneider and have for many years. It seems like you're trying to say that Schneider MADE you do something you weren't supposed to legally do on your stop up there. If your stop delivers somewhere where there are '53 ft trailer restrictions, you STILL have to deliver your load. You're allowed to go in there with your trailer wherever that may be. As far as that grocery store issue you had up there, non of that is Schneiders fault. It's the grocery store. And you were all ready there. Yes they told you to move so their truck could back in and yes there may have been no where to go but you can't decide not to go back once you've been there. That's your job, blind side or not. If everybody refused to deliver to a grocery store because a few cars were in the way then nobody would be getting any deliveries. Thats the nature of the beast with grocery stores. Wait till you have to deliver in Brooklyn or the Bronx. You said Schneider wants you to take all kinds of risks. That's complete bs and you know this. Blind side backing is a risk? If thats the case, you better not drive for any company. Besides, it seems you barely worked for Schneider so how could you even determine something as being risky? As far as your application, Schneider isn't breaking any laws. Whether they want to hire you based on your past is their discretion regardless of how old any conviction. Why were you all ready driving for them? Governments are sometimes slow in getting back to an employer with background checks.

hey mate you sound as though you are the owner of schneider ,so you employed him then s..t on him dont you think it better to help your employees than to do that especialy in your country where it seems drivers get a hard time

[crb]

Schneider behaving badly or Schneider being Schneider you decide!

[mitchno1]

from what i read on here i think you may be right crb

[tenn trunk monkey]

Bulls--t, on the if you are not allowed '53 ft trailers to go ahead anyway,,,you are joking, right...don't know if you have been there and done that or not...these local and state officers will bust your butt and issue you a high priced fine that you will have to pay...and the company will say it's your fault let your company tell you which way to go..

[Mr. Ford95]

You have to read the signs where truck restrictions are in place. sometimes your legal depending on how it reads. Locals around here on several roads became very upset and demanded that the police start stopping the trucks and ticketing them for ignoring the truck restrictions. Problem was, the trucks were not breaking the restrictions per the sign. They read: No Thru Trucks. If your making a stop along that road then your not going thru so the police could not do anything about it. When questioned by the newspaper that was the response they gave. We had another road that said no trucks over X amount of feet in length. Depending on the cab size and how close you pulled the 5th wheel up, you could go down that road legally.

[Giannisz]

I'm sorry guys I was on the road for 3 months with CR England and didn't check the thread. Finally got a week off and right away I ordered my DAC report as soon as I got back. I don't think I will get to see it and dispute it for a few months again because I will be on the road again. That's the way I work leasing with CR England averaging almost $1200 net, but I do need to be on the road too much, as they don't route me anywhere close to the northeast.
The only problem I have with Schneider is that they couldn't just let me go because the driver manager got offended that I would complain and leave the customer's site for an hour, or that the customer complained. I went back and made the delivery. I was away for an hour, but things got even more crowded. It would have been alright with me, just let me go, I didn't think I would make any money with Schneider regional anyway. The reason I went with Schneider was because I wanted to get experience as a tanker driver, but failed the balance part of the physical test and they accepted me at regional instead.
They had to manufacture a reason within 1-2 hours of their being upset with me to fire me, when they had 2 months to investigate me. Maybe just to cover their asses, even though everybody on another truckers forum insisted they have every right to fire me with no reason at all. Or just to be vindictive. All I care about is clearing my DAC of false accusations.

[Giannisz]

I appreciate this forum's posters as they are more likely to try to help instead of telling you, you can't cut it as a truck driver. Another point I wanted to make was, that I tried to bring this issue to the Attorney General of Massachusetts Martha Coakley to enforce the laws they enact they sent me to the commission against discrimination and i was told they would take action against a company that wouldn't hire you because of an old enough misdemeanor, they cannot take action if they fire you for it. WHAAT? Go figure.

[freebirdrfd]

Why don't you ask the commission against discrimination why nothing will ever come off of a Massachusetts driving record just because we hold a C.D.L.

[coalregion]

I work for Schneider and have for many years. It seems like you're trying to say that Schneider MADE you do something you weren't supposed to legally do on your stop up there. If your stop delivers somewhere where there are '53 ft trailer restrictions, you STILL have to deliver your load. You're allowed to go in there with your trailer wherever that may be. As far as that grocery store issue you had up there, non of that is Schneiders fault. It's the grocery store. And you were all ready there. Yes they told you to move so their truck could back in and yes there may have been no where to go but you can't decide not to go back once you've been there. That's your job, blind side or not. If everybody refused to deliver to a grocery store because a few cars were in the way then nobody would be getting any deliveries. Thats the nature of the beast with grocery stores. Wait till you have to deliver in Brooklyn or the Bronx. You said Schneider wants you to take all kinds of risks. That's complete bs and you know this. Blind side backing is a risk? If thats the case, you better not drive for any company. Besides, it seems you barely worked for Schneider so how could you even determine something as being risky? As far as your application, Schneider isn't breaking any laws. Whether they want to hire you based on your past is their discretion regardless of how old any conviction. Why were you all ready driving for them? Governments are sometimes slow in getting back to an employer with background checks.

OK Mrs. Schneider, time to log off. Your husband has the jet idling out on the tarmac....8>)

[conanj31]

Sorry ladies, I haven't seen this thread lately. Its amusing to see some of the attempts at comedy up there on my behalf. If it helps you sleep better at night believing that your "quick wittyness" some how stuck it to me, then whatever. Sorry Giannisz, Schneider didn't "manufacture" a reason to fire you. They don't need a reason. You weren't in a union so they can hire and fire at will. There's more to the story isn't there Giannisz than just this one little incident isn't there? And now you're LEASED onto CR England of all things? Christ sakes man. It's been a few months, how much are you regretting that decision? Tenn Truck Monkey: Um, YES, if you have to deliver down a restricted road for length or weight, you CAN go down that road! You haven't been driving long have you? You should have know that by now. Driving to Atlanta? Can't drive a big truck through the middle of the city can ya? Nope. Big trucks have to take 285 loop around city. But guess what you can do if you have to deliver downtown? That's right! You can take your truck through the middle of the city. I know. It's a tough revelation to behold but alas! It's true! You sensing the sarcasam yet? Yeah I get that way with people who get that way with me. Especially when they're wrong. I also have issues with people who take zero responsibility for their actions and instead throw others under the bus or their employer under the bus to take the heat off them. God forbid people admit when thier wrong. Might make them look bad right? But I get it. It's Schneider. So you'll bash the company anyway even though all you people really know about Schneider is that they're based in Green Bay, drive orange trucks that are governed and there's a lot of us. Oh I know. You're all truck drivers so that automatically gives you qualified knowledge on every large company out here. Please.