Arrow Trucking

[dewercs2]

Has anyone heard anything about them? I've been with them for about 6 months. Just looking for any info that others might have heard. I was doing pretty good until it slowed down.

[Jumbo]

I heard that they went out of business. Have you heard that also?

[dewercs2]

Umm, No we have not gone out of business... Like some outfits I think we are having some problems that need to be addressed.

[ELGAUL]

i pull a skateboard for a company down the road in okc, i have heard and seen first hand that arrow's credit line is not real good right now.bet you havn't seen a bunch of new truck's on the yard have you. i saw with my own eye's a new hire of yall's in a rental truck with no headache rack and all his tarp's and strap's and chain's on the passenger seat.prob don't see stack's of new trlr's waiting to be unloaded either.just an observation,but i would get out.

[Creek Jackson]

Originally Posted by dewercs2

Has anyone heard anything about them? I've been with them for about 6 months. Just looking for any info that others might have heard. I was doing pretty good until it slowed down.

You might ask dewercs2, I think he works for them. He was just here a minute ago,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[married to the road]

Originally Posted by ELGAUL

i pull a skateboard for a company down the road in okc, i have heard and seen first hand that arrow's credit line is not real good right now.bet you havn't seen a bunch of new truck's on the yard have you. i saw with my own eye's a new hire of yall's in a rental truck with no headache rack and all his tarp's and strap's and chain's on the passenger seat.prob don't see stack's of new trlr's waiting to be unloaded either.just an observation,but i would get out.

I left there in December after 2.5 years with them. When I started with them, they had an account with TA for repairs and a Bridgestone acount too for tires while on the road. And if we wanted to, we could go to TA or Petro for PMs so we could keep moving.
They stopped letting us get PMs done on the road (only could get them done at terminal, even if we sat there for 3-4 days in line to get it done), we lost the Bridgestone and TA accounts (The guys at TA would not look at truck until they had conformation from Arrow because Arrow "Did not pay their bills".), and we had to wait for hours for the "bank to put money on the comcheck so we could pay for the repair". One weekend my truck started registering low oil pressure and even cut off on me while going down the road, and I called breakdown and he said it was probably a bad sensor, but they were doing emergencies only, and my truck started back up, so they wouldn't mess with it.
And I was also on the James Hardy dedicated account for a while and we lost it.
I was getting better and more experienced and they were going down hill in my eyes, And they did not even make an effort to keep me happy anymore. I sure hope things are better for the other drivers left.

[dewercs2]

Thanks guys,
I'm still at Arrow and I hope that the slow down in freight is part of the downturn for the company. As of right now I have no plans to leave. My DM and others in the office are pretty good and I get home every weekend thanks to them.

Married... I've been caught up with the TA, tire and shop issues. I've had to wait for money to be placed on the card to pay for some work done. Im in a 05 FL with 439900 miles on it. I do need maintaince but just don't and cant afford to be in Tulsa, OK. I've been away from my region twice and felt that I was past over by the planers for there regional trucks. Seems like its really polictial for loads. I do like the company and have met the president. He seemed a decent enough guy when I met him. I can only assume that the people under him have him insulated from what is going on in the day to day operation of the company.

Hopefully the loads start coming now that January has past us.

With my rollover it was hard enough to find a job last July. I can only imagine how hard it would be to jump ship now at this time in the economy.

[LightsChromeHorsepower]

dewercs-

Moving it over here to keep from hijacking dd's thread.

I'm with a small (15 truck) company in Nor Cal. It's hella slow. Last week I got about 1100 miles, still sitting this week. I can see that if the freight was here I could do 900-1000 per week & have a fairly decent lifestyle. One week last month I grossed $900 & only slept in the truck 2 nights. But the freight just aint here right now. I will stay here because-

1. The yard is about a mile from my house

2. The people treat me super well- small town- we've all been around & at least known of each other for 20-30 years. One of our senior drivers dated my oldest sister in high school, the dispatcher knew my Dad when he hauled for the company she used to work for etc.

3. Pretty nice equipment All 379 Exh w/ C-15 or 3406e motors except for my standard hood w/ a C12. I could "move up" to a large car, but I like my 29K tare.

I tried talking to Arrow last summer when my last job ended & they just had no follow up with me. I got the impression that they were not impressed with my experience. Please keep us posted- I love flatbeding & there just aren't many options left out here.

Curtain vans are a mixed blessing. I hate it on no-tarp lumber loads, but in the snow, or when the Santa Ana winds are blowing.......... I also hate dealing with warehouses, loading docks & everything associated with van loads.

There is no perfect job.

Right now, any job is a good job.

[BIG JEEP on 44's]

Originally Posted by LightsChromeHorsepower

dewercs-

Moving it over here to keep from hijacking dd's thread.

I'm with a small (15 truck) company in Nor Cal. It's hella slow. Last week I got about 1100 miles, still sitting this week. I can see that if the freight was here I could do 900-1000 per week & have a fairly decent lifestyle. One week last month I grossed $900 & only slept in the truck 2 nights. But the freight just aint here right now. I will stay here because-

1. The yard is about a mile from my house

2. The people treat me super well- small town- we've all been around & at least known of each other for 20-30 years. One of our senior drivers dated my oldest sister in high school, the dispatcher knew my Dad when he hauled for the company she used to work for etc.

3. Pretty nice equipment All 379 Exh w/ C-15 or 3406e motors except for my standard hood w/ a C12. I could "move up" to a large car, but I like my 29K tare.

I tried talking to Arrow last summer when my last job ended & they just had no follow up with me. I got the impression that they were not impressed with my experience. Please keep us posted- I love flatbeding & there just aren't many options left out here.

Curtain vans are a mixed blessing. I hate it on no-tarp lumber loads, but in the snow, or when the Santa Ana winds are blowing.......... I also hate dealing with warehouses, loading docks & everything associated with van loads.

There is no perfect job.

Right now, any job is a good job.

Keep making that money ,and you will not have a house to worry about being close to the employers yard.

[INKTOXICATED]

i saw a arrow truck recently picking up a load at our yard in nj. gaf roofing. even with things being slow i see tmc and some mavericks droppin or pickin

[Jarhed1964]

Stay there until you get something solid from another flatbed company, but I would NOT recommend even considering Arrow for a long term career. I guess I was used to modern equipment and actual freight but didnt get it and left in May of last year. Been steering folks clear of them since.

[married to the road]

Originally Posted by dewercs2

Thanks guys,
I'm still at Arrow and I hope that the slow down in freight is part of the downturn for the company. As of right now I have no plans to leave. My DM and others in the office are pretty good and I get home every weekend thanks to them.

Married... I've been caught up with the TA, tire and shop issues. I've had to wait for money to be placed on the card to pay for some work done. Im in a 05 FL with 439900 miles on it. I do need maintaince but just don't and cant afford to be in Tulsa, OK. I've been away from my region twice and felt that I was past over by the planers for there regional trucks. Seems like its really polictial for loads. I do like the company and have met the president. He seemed a decent enough guy when I met him. I can only assume that the people under him have him insulated from what is going on in the day to day operation of the company.

Hopefully the loads start coming now that January has past us.

With my rollover it was hard enough to find a job last July. I can only imagine how hard it would be to jump ship now at this time in the economy.

Are you still having to wait for money to be put on the card to get repairs since Arrow switched from Comdata to TCH? I figured that was one of the things they were doing to fix that problem, but wasn't sure if it helped.
And they hired you with a roll over? They have all those posters up saying no tolerance for roll overs. I would agree then, at least be sure to have another job lined up before leaving.
They sent out a message saying they would replace the entire fleet in the next five years last year, and heard there were going to order some International Pro Stars in '09. Hope that happens and the guys in FL's will probably get them first.
And I hear you about the politics, they have told me that they don't have any long loads or something before, and I might do my DM a favor or something and all of the sudden they can pull loads out of thier ***** that they were just telling you didn't exist a week before. They don't mind lying to you if it helps them out. But it's probably like that at a lot of companies.
Hope things go well with you there any ways and keep us posted how things are going from time to time.

[jd112488]

aren't you asking about arrow about 6 months too late?

[robertt]

I heard on our local radio station here in OKC this morning that Arrow was laying off 36 clerical and administrative people, so there must be something to them having problems.

[thbogle]

This info is on arrow's brokerage. Same company just the brokerage division. They have apparently opened up a new MC# With the same address to get a new brokerage name. All you owner operaters beware of them. Drivers beware if the brokerage is this bad then the company cant be much better. Unless they are using the brokerage to fund the company and not paying their bills.

04/25/2008 ARROW TRUCKING CO
MC#005623 -- Bond cancelled. Over $21K in non-payment complaints.

05/30/2008 ARROW TRUCKING CO
MC#005623 -- Bond cancelled. $16K in non-payment complaints. Click on link for full credit report.

from ITS Alert:

04/10/2008 ARROW TRUCKING CO MC#005623 -- BOND CANCELLED.$49K in non-payment complaints.

Motor Carrier Details
US DOT: 34180 Docket Number: MC005623
Legal Name: ARROW TRUCKING CO.
Doing-Business-As Name:
Business Address Business
Telephone and Fax Mail Address Mail
Telephone and Fax Undeliverable
Mail
4230 SOUTH ELWOOD
TULSA OK 74107 (918) 446-1441 P O BOX 3570
TULSA OK 74101 NO
Authority Type Authority Status Application Pending
Common ACTIVE NO
Contract ACTIVE NO
Broker INACTIVE NO
Property Passenger Household Goods Private Enterprise
YES NO NO NO NO
Insurance Type Insurance Required Insurance on File
BIPD $1,000,000 $1,000,000
Cargo YES YES
Bond YES NO

Motor Carrier Details
US DOT: N/A Docket Number: MC651125
Legal Name: ARROW TRANSPORTATION LOGISTICS, INC.
Doing-Business-As Name:
Business Address Business
Telephone and Fax Mail Address Mail
Telephone and Fax Undeliverable
Mail
4230 SOUTH ELWOOD AVE
TULSA OK 74107 (918) 446-1441 P.O. BOX 3570
TULSA OK 74101 NO
Authority Type Authority Status Application Pending
Common NONE NO
Contract NONE NO
Broker ACTIVE NO
Property Passenger Household Goods Private Enterprise
YES NO NO NO NO
Insurance Type Insurance Required Insurance on File
BIPD $0 $0
Cargo NO NO
Bond YES YES

[LightsChromeHorsepower]

Originally Posted by BIG JEEP on 44's

Keep making that money ,and you will not have a house to worry about being close to the employers yard.

Well, I'll tell you the truth-

I'm making more $$ here, even with things slow, than I was at my restaurant job.

And I don't have to clean kiddy vomit off the Playland equipment any more.

My house is really cheap- I'm renting from a buddy- he says if I put a hundred bucks on the books for him every month & cover the space rent we're cool. I think it could be pretty permanent- He won't be able to live here when he gets out, it's too close to a school.

My PO used to drive truck & he says if I hang here for another year he will try to help me get cleared to go out of state for work and he says he can help hook me up with one of the top-line OTR companies like Werner or England. He's even getting me set up with a place that will help me get the tattoos taken off my neck & face which should help me find a better job.

I got my plan & I'm sticking to it.

[dewercs2]

Thanks Intox,
I pick up out here in lovely Compton, CA at the Gaf plant here at times.

[dewercs2]

Originally Posted by Jarhed1964

Stay there until you get something solid from another flatbed company, but I would NOT recommend even considering Arrow for a long term career. I guess I was used to modern equipment and actual freight but didnt get it and left in May of last year. Been steering folks clear of them since.

Not going anywhere

[dewercs2]

Originally Posted by married to the road

Are you still having to wait for money to be put on the card to get repairs since Arrow switched from Comdata to TCH? I figured that was one of the things they were doing to fix that problem, but wasn't sure if it helped.
And they hired you with a roll over? They have all those posters up saying no tolerance for roll overs. I would agree then, at least be sure to have another job lined up before leaving.
They sent out a message saying they would replace the entire fleet in the next five years last year, and heard there were going to order some International Pro Stars in '09. Hope that happens and the guys in FL's will probably get them first.
And I hear you about the politics, they have told me that they don't have any long loads or something before, and I might do my DM a favor or something and all of the sudden they can pull loads out of thier ***** that they were just telling you didn't exist a week before. They don't mind lying to you if it helps them out. But it's probably like that at a lot of companies.
Hope things go well with you there any ways and keep us posted how things are going from time to time.

Hi married,

Yea Arrow hired me with a NON Preventable roll over. The pix's and subject was covered over on DD's thread in nov or dec of last year.

[dewercs2]

Originally Posted by jd112488

aren't you asking about arrow about 6 months too late?

I thought Arrow was doing good until the change in economy. I think they do have some problems maybe worse then others and better then some. I'm going to stick with them since I do have that slight problem of a rollover. Nobody would touch me.

Besides, I'm now regional, was making decent money till a little while ago, home on weekends and maybe one nite a week.
I'm home tonight after making a delivery and will head out hopefully in the AM.