I'm hearing some good things about CR England ...

[almondlikethenut]

I'm interested in going to work for CR England under their lease/purchase plan. I've talked to some of their drivers that's been there for a few years, and I'm hearing very little negative. Anyone here have anything they would like to add? I've got 4+ years experience and a squeeky clean driving record.

[belpre122]

Who will be the first to bite? Nice try.

[Rev.Vassago]

I guess I'm a sucker for a CRE thread.

I've got 4+ years experience and a squeeky clean driving record.

Apparently, you also have a mental disorder.

Seriously - the CRE lease purchase program is the biggest screwjob around. You end up paying between $2000 - $2500 per month to rent a truck, and their pay package doesn't even come close to compensating you for that. They will run the hell out of you for a while, then leave you sitting until you are forced to default on the lease purchase. At that point, they'll take the truck and put another sucker into it.

Do not ever - never ever ever - rent a truck from your employer. If you are dead set on getting a truck (why you would even think of doing it in this day and age is beyond me), then buy a truck from a dealer, and lease the truck on to a company (one that pays a lot better than CRE, preferred).

Their "fuel cap guarantee" program is very easy to break, if you idle at all (they insist that you have 25% idle time or less). If you average 10,000 miles a month, your truck payment is going to cost you $0.25 per mile. On top of that, you have all the other things they will hit you for, which will hurt even more.

And for all that, they pay you around $0.90 per mile. ($0.90 per mile - $0.25 per mile fuel - $0.25 per mile payment - $0.14 per mile variable mileage payment - $0.07 per mile maintenance fund = $0.19 per mile for you to bring home)

Run, don't walk away from the CRE program.

[almondlikethenut]

Oh yeah! Thanks for the mental disorder comment. That was very helpful!

Sounds like you've done your home work with CR England. Sounds as though you have some personal experience with CR England. Or, is this what you've heard from a few disgruntal employees. I mean really! If you're going to make comments like this and expect me to believe it, then where's your sources?

Fact is, I have done my home work. I've personally interviewed as many as 5 England drivers, with 3 or more years experience with the company. And just to be honest, I'm not hearing what you're saying.

Oh yes, one more thing. These drivers I interviewed, I told each of them, that someone else was wanting to recruit me, so that they would be honest with me with their comments.

By the way, if you want me or anyone else to listen and pay attention to your suggestions, maybe you should think about refraining from the rudeness. That mental disorder comment was totally out of line and uncalled for.

I was just asking for help!

[GTR SILVER]

use the search function on this site..(type in cr england..or cre )...then start reading.....and

reading.... :idea: .....and.......reading.. :idea: ...then come back to this forum....with the

results........rude comment or not............the rev's on target...... :wink:

Confucius said "I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand."

Simple words of wisdom to live by if there ever were...especially in regards to the trucking biz it seems.

There's another old saying too: "There's a sucker born every minute and most of them went to Crash and Roll England". The archives herein are loaded with horror stories about that outfit. But do people listen? Noooooo...

That's why things never change in this industry. TRUCKERS DON'T LISTEN!!! You could tell a trucker the sky is blue and he'll tell you it isn't time after time. Drivers keep making the same mistakes over and over and over. The big outfits depend on it. If people wised up then they would all be out of business.

Every
New
Guy
Leaves
After
Ninety
Days

[Rev.Vassago]

Sounds like you've done your home work with CR England.

I have.

Sounds as though you have some personal experience with CR England.

No, I was never foolish enough to work for them.

Or, is this what you've heard from a few disgruntal employees. I mean really! If you're going to make comments like this and expect me to believe it, then where's your sources?

I pulled all the numbers off the CRE website, and did the logical math myself based upon my 12 years in the industry.

Fact is, I have done my home work. I've personally interviewed as many as 5 England drivers, with 3 or more years experience with the company. And just to be honest, I'm not hearing what you're saying.

Then you are asking the wrong people.

Oh yes, one more thing. These drivers I interviewed, I told each of them, that someone else was wanting to recruit me, so that they would be honest with me with their comments.

Good for them.

By the way, if you want me or anyone else to listen and pay attention to your suggestions, maybe you should think about refraining from the rudeness. That mental disorder comment was totally out of line and uncalled for.

I stand by my statement. Anyone who is honestly considering going to CRE with the track record they have must have a mental disorder.

I was just asking for help!

Which is exactly what I gave you. I just didn't tell you what you wanted to hear.

There have been hundreds of threads started on this very board by people just like yourself who were snookered into the CRE hype. They all say the same things, which you have already started to, and I expect will continue.

Just out of curiosity, why on earth would you want to pay CRE an inflated price for a Century Class Freightliner, when you could go out and buy one yourself for a lot cheaper? Do you just have extra money to throw away?

[rgarthman1969]

Oh boy. Here we go again.

[Mackman]

Dont try to help him out guys.


I SAY GO FOR IT. You will be rich in no time.

[Snowman7]

I was just asking for help!

Which is exactly what I gave you. I just didn't tell you what you wanted to hear.

Exactly. Who cares. Let him figure it out for himself. At least you tried.

[ordinaryguy]

plus why become a lease/op now when fuel is so damn expensive? Crash&Roll England....

[Rev.Vassago]

plus why become a lease/op now when fuel is so damn expensive? Crash&Roll England....

Because someone gets it in their head that they want to "own their dream", and CRE does a damn good job of selling them on it.

[rgarthman1969]

He had been warned................ :wink:

[Jumbo]

So what DID you hear GOOD about C.R. England? It can't be that they offer a L/P option? The good Rev tried to warn you. Good Luck Bro.

[Midnight Flyer]

Four years ago when I was just out of truck driver school and soaked - not wet - behind the ears I applied to C.R. England. The recruiter gave me the smoothest sell job (she could've sold a deep freeze to an Alaskan in January) you've ever heard. I decided to take a trip to Salt Lake City and check them out. When I got there I was set upon by no less than six C.R.E. folks who were pushing their lease program. After getting all the costs and figures and studying them I called my dad (a retired banker) to get his input. He basically told me to go to Wally World and stock up on vasoline because I was gonna need it. Two days later thank God and Southwest Airlines I was gone! Take the good Rev.'s advice and run, don't walk, away from CRE! 8)

[MartenDrvrCA]

Hard heads never learn...Then want to come back and cry about how horrible they were to you and how you should of listened.ALways have people who feel the need to put there hand in boiling grease to find out if its truly hot,..

[Drew10]

I've talked to some of their drivers that's been there for a few years, and I'm hearing very little negative. Anyone here have anything they would like to add? I've got 4+ years experience and a squeeky clean driving record.

Who you trying to bait? You have 4+ years experience. You have been in the business long enough to understand what CRE or any company Lease purchase plan is all about.
Go to any forum on the net including this one and do a "CR Enland" search. You will get more information than you could every possible hope for.

Fact is, I have done my home work. I've personally interviewed as many as 5 England drivers, with 3 or more years experience with the company. And just to be honest, I'm not hearing what you're saying.

Again....why are you asking?....you already did your homework and have all the answers you need.

[belpre122]

The recruiter gave me the smoothest sell job (she could've sold a deep freeze to an Alaskan in January) you've ever heard.

Hell, the only hope that I see for this thread is if Midnight would be kind enough to describe a voice so sexy, sultry and alluring that he jumped on an airplane and considered giving away the farm! Midnight, you should be ashamed! You are certainly the first and only male type to fall for that old trick! :wink:

[Mr. Ford95]

Sounds like he might be an England recruiter attempting to debunk all the negative hype surrounding that company.

[Rawlco]

Sounds like he might be an England recruiter attempting to debunk all the negative hype surrounding that company.

Darn, you beat me to that thought.