stuck at truck stop another week-end

[seadawg]

Well here I am,been here since Fri. afternoon,seems like every time I come to New York,I might as well expect to sit and wait to deliver or wait for a load,and Syracuse is where I seem to end up. Already got my application out there and if a decent job with week-ends off comes alone,I will proberly take it,pay can't be much lower than Im making now,34cpm.If any one knows of a company I might check on,post it here.Hate to whine and complain about something like this,but,after a while you just get tired of the same old run around.thanks to all.

[bigdad7]

where are you out of .....might check out some of the coolie carriers for a dedicated account.....better planning and most sitting is done at home

[Sealord]

Who do you pull for so others can avoid 'em. BOL

[wsyrob]

Ever pulled tankers? I got layed over this weekend as well. Company put me up in a Holiday Inn Thursday and Friday Night. I got paid 16 hours layover pay and got a load out Saturday headed for home.

[BHG0069]

Ever pulled tankers? I got layed over this weekend as well. Company put me up in a Holiday Inn Thursday and Friday Night. I got paid 16 hours layover pay and got a load out Saturday headed for home.

I was layed over at the consignee for 26hrs on tuesday-wensday. Got paid for all 26 hrs. Great feeling. 8)

[belpre122]

I was layed over at the consignee for 26hrs on tuesday-wensday. Got paid for all 26 hrs. Great feeling. 8)

That's one of the reasons why we need to push him towards getting away from irregular-route coolie carrier OTR trucking.

He seems to enjoy the industry. Yet is stuck in that coolie carrier rut. I can empathize. Unless you are willing to look away from the conventional modes, it all is really a dead-end for the most part.

These guys are so accustomed to being used and abused by these coolier carrier cut-rate outfits, that they find it almost unbelievable that you are paid all of that lay-over pay, plus wsyrob shacked up at a Holiday Inn for the weekend. These guys unfortunately only understand shacking up at the Carney Point hook for a reset/weekend in the hot-box.

The coolie carrier companies would prefer that the truck be shut down completely, and the driver take a sleeping bag out behind the coolie campground and find a nice comfy spot amidst the wonderful activities that take place behind the last row of trucks at a coolie camprground.

The dissent amongst quality drivers like seadawg is growing. Coolie carrier operations are merely in survival mode now. It's a day to day type operation for many of these outfits. Credit lines have tightened so much because creditors already see what I am telling you now;

Irregular-route coolie carrier, hobo style OTR in it's current form is over. The shake-up is going to be nasty and protracted. In the end, it will be the true professional drivers that will benefit.

So long, scumbags. :sad:

[BIG JEEP on 44's]

Are you at the ***** hole pilot in Syracuse ,NY... i broke down there friday this past Memorial weeked...i been there before ,but only over night with quick shower b4 leaving...well due to break down on friday ,and cat being closed sat,sun,mon i got stuck there 4 days ...And this pos place is just like the pos pilot off trinaty lane in Nashville,TN...no laundry for drivers WTF ,But they got video games ...the pos super 8 i stayed at down the street tuesday,wedesday...did not either,and without the truck i spent 40 bucks round trip 6 miles for a taxi to go do laundry.

i just put out my resume this home time ,because in addition to low miles and only .33 cpm Gainey can't even offer their divers the ability to keep the truck cool when on break,as they only give 30% idle time ,which is only 3.5 hours a day on top of 50 moving hours which could be 2500-3000 miles...heck they sat me in Dallas Tx for 2 days of 100 degree weather ,and they expect no idilng ,and don't do buiness with ide aire b/c they are both chapter 11...they offer no alteratives to get a/c in the summer and heat in the winter without idiling the truck ...they wrote me up for idiling 8hrs day while sleeping because it's more than 3.5hrs allowed ...in order to not get wrote up again i paid $140.00 for 2 days in a motel ,and then i get qualcomm message stating goo job your idle is down ...no ***** sherlock !...that's because i wasn't in te truck the 2 100 degree days t sat in Dallas...I can't wait to get away...I'm even looking at Werner again b/c atleast they respected the driver enough to give them a/c in the summer,and heat in the winter...and not just while driving... :wink:

[bigtimba]

The growing dissent amongst quality drivers like seadawg is growing. Coolie carrier operations are merely in survival mode now. It's a day to day type operation for many of these outfits. Credit lines have tightened so much because creditors already see what I am telling you now;

Irregular-route coolie carrier, hobo style OTR in it's current form is over. The shake-up is going to be nasty and protracted. In the end, it will be the true professional drivers that will benefit.

So long, scumbags.

This is where our paths diverge. I love irregular route driving. Send me here, send me there . . I love this . . it's such a great country!

We (re)converge at pay. Pay me for what I love to do. I'll stay out here and we'll both benefit. But pay me fairly. I'm good at what I do and have the extract to prove it. I didn't take the training and leave . . I took it and ran with it. I'll keep doing it if they'll pay me fairly. Fair is 40 for 40. Beyond 40, I want the same premium every tradesman gets. It's all I ask.

[belpre122]

This is where our paths diverge. I love irregular route driving. Send me here, send me there . . I love this . . it's such a great country!

They probably don't diverge as much as you might think timba. I heartily agree that there are persons for which the OTR industry/lifestyle is nothing short of a godsend. I think that I understand the want and need to experience new things and places daily. Often, the only alternative would be go work in a factory, which in my book, would be tantamount to torture to someone like you. The folks that get out there simply to 'get away from it all.' while abandoning families, responsibilities etc, are the ones that I take issue with. They use the "need for the open road" mantra to escape responsibility.
I fully realize that is not the case for all of you. OTR driving fulfills a need that most likely could not be filled elsewhere. I'm completely with you there.

The pay issue that we definitely converge on is where I take the greatest umbrage. I have realized that you are one of the OTR posters that while may get a bit irritated with us locals and our coolie carrier etc, crap. You also realize that it is not personal, and is for the most part aimed at the Coolie Carrier industry that is taking advantage of the OTR driver. We locals have mostly all done OTR so we DO know what we are talking about. It is indeed disturbing to hear OTR pay rates that are far below what I make as a local fuel hauler with 2.5 years experience in the trucking industry. It is a shame that my OTR counterparts are not properly compensated for their willingness and dedication to staying on the road to complete the mission. The discrepancy in pay is inexcusable and needs to be reformed to give the industry any smidgen of respectability. $40k a years is not near enough for an OTR driver. I do far better than that and never leave the State of Indiana. I am not union.

We'll just have to keep pushing. I enjoy your posts timba.

[GTR SILVER]

your a class act.....belpre..... 8) 8) 8) .......very well articulated....!!!!! :wink: :wink:

[Templedawg]

I'm sure some drivers love the OTR life. I did it for a year, and hated it. Once i figured up all the hours i worked for 7 days and came up with an hourly rate i was disgusted. I remember sitting in Mass. for 2 days waiting on a load, Not alot of truckstop options in 1995 up there. I got on LTL and have beenwith the same outfit for over 12 years now. home daily or every other day, off weekends, and all my time off is at the house, not spending my whole paycheck sitting in a truckstop like i used to do. There are other jobs out there. Let me give you a little help, stay away from anybody that advertises in all the magazines or has a recruiting dept. They have recruiters for a reason, they have no drivers. I get paid $.547/mile, no gimmicks, no bonuses, just straight pay, $22/hr for breakdown (immediately) and the same for delays(give them the 1st hour). There are good paying trucking jobs out there. YOU HAVE TO FIND THEM, they don't have recruiters because they don't need them. get all your endorsements too, keep your options open.

[Phreddo]

Even when i was a non-cdl delivery boy, i never got overtime, well, not over 40 hrs. If there's overtime out there, i never hit it. I just accepted taht's the way it was and took my lumps until i found something better.
40 hrs, IMHO, is not an apples/apples comparison. It's not like we're spending 70 hours a week at an assembly line or in some cubicle somewhere with a timeclock and a middle manager with his/her nose up our butts.
I know what the industry is, i know what to expect, i don't accept a job and then complain about the terms to which i just agreed. If I don't like it, i go somewhere else. personally, i dunno if i'd like local work. I'm afraid it would be both hectic and boring. i like a little variety in my scenery, and I like not having to hit multiple daily stops on a schedule regardless of traffic or weather. When I drove a van for DHL, I had anywheres from 70-90 stops in a day. One day I hit 99, would have been 100 if i hadn't pulled the plug and went back to the terminal. And I also like that I finally got a job that pays me for time that I sit as well as time that I roll.
So for me, I drink the Flavor-Ade when it comes to hourly vs. mileage pay. I don't know if it's acceptable, but I accept it.

[unclehotte]

Hey seadawg??? That weekend sitting (for FREE) is what broke the camels back for me. My last trip for Shaffer was a two stop in NJ.....with the guarantee that if I deliver the 2 stop load in NJ, first friday night the second saturday morning.....I WILL have a load out of NJ. After I got held up with a refused pallet at my 2nd stop (I was supposed to get the next load at 12.00)
which took dispatch to find out what to do with till 04.00pm...............I lost the weekend load and got a new load offer for Monday 02.00pm. I was 60 miles from home. I asked to drive to the house.....got refused.....i was told to park it at a pilot where I was NOT allowed to fuel and would have to pay for the parking myself..............I told them.... i go HOME NOW and you will have your truck back on monday. And thats how it went. B.T.W.......I drive LTL now and average $5000-$8000 more a year. The weekends???? HOME...every one of them!!!

[Snowman7]

Hey seadawg??? That weekend sitting (for FREE) is what broke the camels back for me. My last trip for Shaffer was a two stop in NJ.....with the guarantee that if I deliver the 2 stop load in NJ, first friday night the second saturday morning.....I WILL have a load out of NJ. After I got held up with a refused pallet at my 2nd stop (I was supposed to get the next load at 12.00)
which took dispatch to find out what to do with till 04.00pm...............I lost the weekend load and got a new load offer for Monday 02.00pm. I was 60 miles from home. I asked to drive to the house.....got refused.....i was told to park it at a pilot where I was NOT allowed to fuel and would have to pay for the parking myself..............I told them.... i go HOME NOW and you will have your truck back on monday. And thats how it went. B.T.W.......I drive LTL now and average $5000-$8000 more a year. The weekends???? HOME...every one of them!!!

Uh huh thats a big ten four! :wink:

[Karnajj]

I was layed over at the consignee for 26hrs on tuesday-wensday. Got paid for all 26 hrs. Great feeling. 8)

That's one of the reasons why we need to push him towards getting away from irregular-route coolie carrier OTR trucking.

He seems to enjoy the industry. Yet is stuck in that coolie carrier rut. I can empathize. Unless you are willing to look away from the conventional modes, it all is really a dead-end for the most part.

These guys are so accustomed to being used and abused by these coolier carrier cut-rate outfits, that they find it almost unbelievable that you are paid all of that lay-over pay, plus wsyrob shacked up at a Holiday Inn for the weekend. These guys unfortunately only understand shacking up at the Carney Point hook for a reset/weekend in the hot-box.

The coolie carrier companies would prefer that the truck be shut down completely, and the driver take a sleeping bag out behind the coolie campground and find a nice comfy spot amidst the wonderful activities that take place behind the last row of trucks at a coolie camprground.

The dissent amongst quality drivers like seadawg is growing. Coolie carrier operations are merely in survival mode now. It's a day to day type operation for many of these outfits. Credit lines have tightened so much because creditors already see what I am telling you now;

Irregular-route coolie carrier, hobo style OTR in it's current form is over. The shake-up is going to be nasty and protracted. In the end, it will be the true professional drivers that will benefit.

So long, scumbags. :sad:

Hey Belpre, why don't you see how many times you can use the word coolie in a post? You seem to be obsessed with the word. We all get how you feel so why don't you move on to something more interesting? Please?

Hey Belpre, why don't you see how many times you can use the word coolie in a post? You seem to be obsessed with the word. We all get how you feel so why don't you move on to something more interesting? Please?

Truth hurts, eh Karnajj?

[GMAN]

When you continue to use the word "Coolie" it comes across as an insult to any otr drivers. If you have a problem with otr then you don't have to do it. There are many who do and enjoy it. You don't have to continue to insult them.

[Karnajj]

Hey Belpre, why don't you see how many times you can use the word coolie in a post? You seem to be obsessed with the word. We all get how you feel so why don't you move on to something more interesting? Please?

Truth hurts, eh Karnajj?

You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the ass so **** off.

[belpre122]

When you continue to use the word "Coolie" it comes across as an insult to any otr drivers. If you have a problem with otr then you don't have to do it. There are many who do and enjoy it. You don't have to continue to insult them.

I'm completely wrong aren't I? How can anyone find "coolie" insulting when nobody feels that it applies to them? Would ghetto trucking feel better?

I find it insulting that you continue to defend a dark part of the industry that I feel thrives on exploitation. We debate, but I never attempt to stifle your self expression. I would appreciate the same consideration from you in the future.

Go sell it to the Air Force..............M-A-Y-O-nnaise

[Karnajj]

When you continue to use the word "Coolie" it comes across as an insult to any otr drivers. If you have a problem with otr then you don't have to do it. There are many who do and enjoy it. You don't have to continue to insult them.

I'm completely wrong aren't I? How can anyone find "coolie" insulting when nobody feels that it applies to them? Would ghetto trucking feel better?

I find it insulting that you continue to defend a dark part of the industry that I feel thrives on exploitation. We debate, but I never attempt to stifle your self expression. I would appreciate the same consideration from you in the future.

Go sell it to the Air Force..............M-A-Y-O-nnaise

What a completely arrogant S.O.B. you are. Anybody that disagree's with you is automatically defending the bad things about this industry? Who the **** are you to decide that? And what's up with this "darkside' crap? Are you such a dork that that is the best you can do? This isn't a god damn episode of star wars.