Local Fuel Hauling in Texas......by Cluggy

[countryhorseman]

If someone is driving OTR for only 20 or 30k a year, and sticking with that company. Well, they need some smartin up pills. I would say at least 90 % of the posters on this board, are already smarter than that. The ones that are working, for the 20 or 30k, are more than likely the cheap Mexican labor that thinks they are kings with that kind of salary, and most of their money goes South.

Not arguing with you, your point is basically valid, but there are worse alternatives.

I think we are missing the point.

As stated before, 42K per year isn't much, but there are drivers only making 20k-30k being OTR, and that is just wrong. As long as drivers believe that this is the best they can do, these companies will continue to keep drivers wages down, instead of giving us a fair share of the pie.

[gmh]

GMH,

You need to go back and read his post, that is $1500 for a two week period, as he stated it anyhow!

Cluggy, is your $1500/wk 'guarantee' actually guaranteed, or just that unless you were a total f-up you couldn't go under it? Also, is that gross, or net? You say 'paycheck', so I assume the latter.

G

Oh, right. I'll go fix it. Question still remains

[countryhorseman]

Not to defend or go against Cluggy, I would say that if the company he drives for values its drivers, and they, like many service oriented transporters know of peaks and valleys in the service they provide, that the company will have a guarantee base for its drivers.

The company I am currently driving for, is a dry-bulk company that delivers both lime and cement products. Being that those two commodities tend to be weather dependent in many cases, in times when the weather is just pure crap, we do not make many loads during the week, thus, the reason for our weekly guarantee. Rarely does a paycheck go below the base, but on the weeks that it does, we get a check. Several other dry-bulk carriers in the area do not offer the base, and they tend to loose large numbers of drivers (that fail to plan for the slow times) during the bad weather periods.

If more companies would value their drivers in such a way, and guarantee a base, providing the driver is not a loafer, turn over in certain segments of the industry would be allot less.

Just me 2 cents worth, have a great night!

GMH,

You need to go back and read his post, that is $1500 for a two week period, as he stated it anyhow!

Cluggy, is your $1500/wk 'guarantee' actually guaranteed, or just that unless you were a total f-up you couldn't go under it? Also, is that gross, or net? You say 'paycheck', so I assume the latter.

G

Oh, right. I'll go fix it. Question still remains

[gmh]

Oh, I'm not trying to attack him either. I just want more details about his situation. I'd ask them of anybody who posts numbers. There's a big difference between gross and net. And I'm sincerely curious how he is 'guaranteed' $750/wk. Just looking for more information. I know from reading these boards that many people who post questions like I have are just looking for ways to show that someone else is full of it.

[countryhorseman]

Hehe, yippers, definitely have a point there. My current employer guarantees the new drivers a $500/wk gross base. Senior drivers - well, some have an undisclosed base, depending on time with the company. Since I left, and came back, by current guarantee is at the bottom end, but has only been used once in the 3 months I have been back.

If I remember for previous Cluggy posts, his base is also on gross, not net! Wonder where he is tonite! Hmm!

Oh, I'm not trying to attack him either. I just want more details about his situation. I'd ask them of anybody who posts numbers. There's a big difference between gross and net. And I'm sincerely curious how he is 'guaranteed' $750/wk. Just looking for more information. I know from reading these boards that many people who post questions like I have are just looking for ways to show that someone else is full of it.

[Cluggy619]

That is gross paycheck, not net. I get paid on the 15th, and the last day of the month.

The condition of the guarantee is that I be ready to work 5 days per week, with 2 days off. Working on my day off is paid in addition to my guarantee wage.

This guarantee pay is forfeited only I don't show up for work, like calling in sick, or having to take a day off for something.

I hope this helps. As long as I have been with this company, I don't think I have ever collected on the guarantee pay.....I've always made more.

Also, I agree that 95% of the readers of this board are way above what I made last year. I'm trying to help the 5% that is not.

[Cluggy619]

Also, this guarantee pay that my company is not the highest around here as far as fuel hauling is concerned.

There are several fuel transport companies around here with some giving a guarantee of $1000 per week or more. And that's just around the D/FW area. I am sorry to say that Coastal is not one of them.

Thanks for reading my post. :wink:

[gmh]

Thanks for writing

Another question: is this part of an employment contract, or just the terms of your at-will employment?

[Cluggy619]

Thanks for writing

Another question: is this part of an employment contract, or just the terms of your at-will employment?

The guarantee pay is what the company offers for the drivers it has.

[countryhorseman]

That is how our guarantee works also! You have to be available for work during your scheduled days. Refuse a load, loose your guarantee! And yes, we have boneheads that will refuse to do the longer hauls, and then gripe because they did not make any money.

That is gross paycheck, not net. I get paid on the 15th, and the last day of the month.

The condition of the guarantee is that I be ready to work 5 days per week, with 2 days off. Working on my day off is paid in addition to my guarantee wage.

This guarantee pay is forfeited only I don't show up for work, like calling in sick, or having to take a day off for something.

I hope this helps. As long as I have been with this company, I don't think I have ever collected on the guarantee pay.....I've always made more.

Also, I agree that 95% of the readers of this board are way above what I made last year. I'm trying to help the 5% that is not.

guaranteed 1500 a week? bring home 750? 42000 for the year with six weeks off? 1500 * 46 = 69000. 750 * 46 = 34500??? i think you got screwed somewhere.

[Colts Fan]

He gets paid every 2 weeks. He said 1500 per paycheck.

[Cluggy619]

guaranteed 1500 a week? bring home 750? 42000 for the year with six weeks off? 1500 * 46 = 69000. 750 * 46 = 34500??? i think you got screwed somewhere.

Well, I'll say it again.

I get paid on the 15th and the last day of the month. That's twice a month.

That's $41,331.65 from SWPT, with May and June off due to quiting. I worked at Coastal for 3 weeks, and received $2254.02, mostly training pay. I figured 6 week total off without pay during the year, with all of the time off I took, not including my standard days off.

The $1500 guarantee pay per payday was never given. I've always made more. The last check I posted here was, I believe to be the lowest of the year.

Now, if you add $41331.65(SWPT earnings) + $2254.02(Coastal earnings) = $43585.67 (Total Earnings for 2007)

Then divide by 46 (52 weeks per year-6 weeks off), you would get $947.51 per week. Or if you just want to divide it by 52, you would get $838.19 per week. This is a average of what I made per week last year.

Any other questions?

sorry missed the paid 2 times a month thing...man your loaded.

[Karnajj]

I thought this idiot was banned?!?!?!

I was. I came back. I could always be banned again.


:wink:

One can only hope.

Doesn't say much for the integrity of the mods does it?

[Cluggy619]

I thought this idiot was banned?!?!?!

I was. I came back. I could always be banned again.


:wink:

One can only hope.

Doesn't say much for the integrity of the mods does it?

I've been approved by the mods as long as I play nicely.

If you want to question their integrity, you will have to take it up with them.

But like I said before, I going to be pretty boring. Just posting information. Maybe ask a question or two. That's about it.

I'll leave the drama to TNT, and maybe people like yourself. :wink:

Have a wonderful day.

[Ridge Runner]

[quote="Karnajj"]

I thought this idiot was banned?!?!?!

I was. I came back. I could always be banned again.


:wink:

One can only hope.

Doesn't say much for the integrity of the mods does it?[/quote]


If you have a problem with the decisions that I are ANY of the moderators here make please feel free to expand on those thoughts if you have the ability. First look up the word "integrity". Done that? GOOD! NOW, read this/these: http://www.classadrivers.com/phpBB2/rules.php . If you need help with the big words all you have to do is ask. There are many posters here that will help you with them. When you put it all together you can ask again what it ALL means, and there will be many people here that can try help you understand it. When that doesn't work, you can keep on with your one line attacks that you HOPE will get some crap started and end the thread, BUT!!!!! all it will get you is a real good insight on how it feels to have to come back under another name and start acting like a person.

I'm done,




Ridge
Ridge

[Silverdragon]

I just started driving after graduating school. I had several offers including otr (with large companies), local hauling for a distribution center (large company),fuel hauling, and crude hauling.

I decided on the crude hauling and have been in training. So far all is going well. It is more than just driving from one location to another, dropping or unloading a trailer and going on to the next location to do the same. Everyone is different and some may like the drop and hook. I was looking for something different.

I am home everynight and although the days are sometimes long, there is just something about being home that is important to me. It is hard for me to put a value on family time. How much more money would make it worth while to be gone for days? No one has offered me enough yet.

Everyday is a new adventure and there are events which make each day unique. There is physical work (which I like), I am outside in the fields and outdoors a good portion of the day, and I am working for a small close group people. There are decisions I must make and I will be working on my own most of the time. I will be doing all the testing, and figuring out how much and whether to load the specific oil, as every tank is different and the legal load must be figured out.

I do not have a firm grip on the final salary yet as I am still in training. I do however trust and have confidence in the boss and company.

Hopefully when I am out on my own I will still find it enjoyable but I am sure that I will.

[Cluggy619]

I just started driving after graduating school. I had several offers including otr (with large companies), local hauling for a distribution center (large company),fuel hauling, and crude hauling.

I decided on the crude hauling and have been in training. So far all is going well. It is more than just driving from one location to another, dropping or unloading a trailer and going on to the next location to do the same. Everyone is different and some may like the drop and hook. I was looking for something different.

I am home everynight and although the days are sometimes long, there is just something about being home that is important to me. It is hard for me to put a value on family time. How much more money would make it worth while to be gone for days? No one has offered me enough yet.

Everyday is a new adventure and there are events which make each day unique. There is physical work (which I like), I am outside in the fields and outdoors a good portion of the day, and I am working for a small close group people. There are decisions I must make and I will be working on my own most of the time. I will be doing all the testing, and figuring out how much and whether to load the specific oil, as every tank is different and the legal load must be figured out.

I do not have a firm grip on the final salary yet as I am still in training. I do however trust and have confidence in the boss and company.

Hopefully when I am out on my own I will still find it enjoyable but I am sure that I will.

Kepp us informed. Glad you decided to go local.

My brother decided to move up to a class A CDL from a class B. I talked to my boss, and guess what? He has a job after he gets the tanker and hazmat.

No experience, local gig, good pay. Yes, it can be done. Hope for everybody out there who don't think they have enough experience. Always try, and sometimes, your rewarded.

[Karnajj]

[quote="Ridge Runner"]

I thought this idiot was banned?!?!?!

I was. I came back. I could always be banned again.


:wink:

One can only hope.

Doesn't say much for the integrity of the mods does it?[/quote]


If you have a problem with the decisions that I are ANY of the moderators here make please feel free to expand on those thoughts if you have the ability. First look up the word "integrity". Done that? GOOD! NOW, read this/these: http://www.classadrivers.com/phpBB2/rules.php . If you need help with the big words all you have to do is ask. There are many posters here that will help you with them. When you put it all together you can ask again what it ALL means, and there will be many people here that can try help you understand it. When that doesn't work, you can keep on with your one line attacks that you HOPE will get some crap started and end the thread, BUT!!!!! all it will get you is a real good insight on how it feels to have to come back under another name and start acting like a person.

I'm done,




Ridge
Ridge

Aren't we a little touchy? Nothing like violating your own rules by attacking someone, is there? But hey I have big shoulders bring it on. And oh, by the way, I'll match up my educational resume with yours any day you want. Have a nice day.