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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanide
    Yes, there are good non-union, non-LTL companies out here and Superior Carriers/Carry Transit are a couple of them. I myself rarely ever had a 12-hour on-duty day with Superior, never ran out of hours while out on the road, and will say that my normal work day consisted of a true, by-the-book-logging of nine to ten hours daily max. Now did I push more total hours than that daily? Yes, especially considering my normal day consists of pre-trip, driving four hours, half hour break, driving four hours, half hour break, etc. Obviously this is adjusted during loading/unloading days but still the basic principle remains the same for me. Superior/Carry isn't a company where the old "work 100 hours but only log 70" joke applies.

    Also, I don't concern myself at all with the whole breaking down of OTR pay into hourly pay. It's not a big deal to me at all, especially considering that twelve years of my life were spent in the military..another occupation that forgotten by many is many more than "average" or "normal" hours and not paid all that well. I do know that what I made at Superior as a company driver was more than comfortable, especially with the time off I took.

    My family and I's needs and wants were met and obtained, and that's all that mattered.

    Hey Stan, last I heard and from talking with a Miller terminal manager, he said that not all the company driver's were union, and that it depended upon the individual terminal... Yep, doing that other thing we spoke of months ago. Will share with everyone else soon enough

    Now, all bickering aside gang, can we please keep this thread open for those who are curious can see what the different tanker companies have to offer??? If we're going to argue this whole pay, hourly versus OTR, time off, etc. thing let's move it to another post...

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    Im thinking of starting with Schneider bulk. I have no experience and dont want to pay for the training. I know I will be commited to them for 1 year. I hear some good stuff and some bad stuff. What are you alls opinion? Does Schneider pay all miles, or just loaded ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColtsFan
    Im thinking of starting with Schneider bulk. I have no experience and dont want to pay for the training. I know I will be commited to them for 1 year. I hear some good stuff and some bad stuff. What are you alls opinion? Does Schneider pay all miles, or just loaded ones?
    from cyanide's post....................... 8) 8) 8)

    SCHNEIDER NATIONAL (1 year O.T.R. required w/HAZMAT, Student grad from approved school, or, Schneider school grad)
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...er_Century.jpg
    Mileage pay (solo), student rate after completion of training (Short Miles):
    0-6 months: .29 (Southeast pay scale)....30 (Normal pay scale)
    7 months-1year: .33..............................34
    1-2 years: .36.......................................37
    2-3 years: .37.......................................38
    3-4 years: .38.......................................39
    4-5 years: .39.......................................40
    5-6 years: .40.......................................41
    6-7 years: .41.......................................42
    7-8 years: .42.......................................43
    8 + years: .005 increase annually every other year, capping at 30 years.

    Loading/Unloading/Detention Pay:
    $25 per live load/unload, then $10/hour after 3 hours.

    Tank Wash Pay:
    $20

    Short-Haul Pay (in addition to mileage and accessory pay):
    0-100 miles: $40
    101-200 miles: $20
    201-300 miles: $10

    Breakdown Pay (after 24 hours):
    $70-90 (depending on experience), then after eight hours $40 allowance for hotel.

    Layover Pay (after 24 hours):
    $70-90 (depending on experience), then after twenty-four hours $40 motel allowance.

    Canada Border Crossing Delay Pay (after 2 hours):
    $20, then $10 each additional hour.

    Holiday Pay:
    $40/day for six major holidays.

    Funeral Pay:
    $40/day for three days for funeral of family member.

    Training Pay:
    Experienced drivers: $400 for 1 week.
    Recent school graduates: $350/week for up to six weeks, plus $130 two-day training.
    Inexperienced (Need training): $0 for 14 days of Pre-hire training, $350/week for up to four weeks,, plus $130 two-day training.

    Quarterly Safety Bonus:
    0-1 year: $300
    1+ years: $400

    Vacation Pay:
    Paid average weekly earnings.
    1 Week at 1 year.
    2 weeks at 2 years.
    3 weeks at 7 years.
    4 weeks at 15 years.

    Time Off:
    12-14 days out, 3 days in.

    Insurance :
    Health (after 90 days for inexperienced drivers, immediately for experienced drivers):
    Option 1: Single plan $20.33/week, Family plan (1 dependent) $61.81, Family plan (2+ dependents) $75.21.
    Option 2: .................$13.97........................... ......................$45.40...................... ......................$53.08.
    Option 3: .................$35.80........................... ......................$81.06...................... ......................$98.38.

    Dental (after nine months for inexperienced drivers, immediately for experienced drivers):
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    Driver and Child: $4.24.
    Driver and Spouse: $4.46.
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    Vision and Life Insurance (after 90 days for inexperienced drivers, immediately for experienced drivers):
    Company paid.

    Addtional insurance offered (Disabilty, Supplemental life, etc.)

    401k Plan (after 90 days):
    Company matches 50% of the first 4%, then 100% match on 5th% and 6th%. Company match maxes at $2,500 annually.

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    I see the mileage pay. But, I dont see if it diferentiates between loaded and unloaded. I would assume that means all routed miles are paid. But, I hate to assume. Or...am I missing it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evinrude
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudpuddle
    [b]$ 16.07 per hour x 12 hour days x 318 day worked = $61323.12

    Must admit little better than the mega carriers

    .28 per mile 2500 miles =$ 700 divided by 6 days $116 divided by 12 hour days $ 9.72 per hour[/b].


    Ha, Ha, I am a system driver at Superior. We have trucks that go 68 mph. . I Almost NEVER work twelve hours in a day unless I have to. I usually make my 650-660 miles within ten hours worked. ...Um ahem... I may log twelve, but I rarely work it.

    Local guys... well that's a different story.
    my truck will run 87 but we arent suppose to log over 62.

    We cannot however "average" more that 60 mph on our logs

    You must have a different log sheet than me, mine goes by the hour... not by speed. Great company you have.
    , they calculate how far you go in the hours you drive and then figure out how many mph you average, I think all companies do that, if you say you went 500 miles in 7 hours, something isnt right

    What would happen if your went 30 miles and the highway was shut down, for a accident or weather for 12 hrs what would you get paid?[/quote]

    $10.00 an hour x 12 hours= $120.00 plus motel if I can get to one

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColtsFan
    I see the mileage pay. But, I dont see if it diferentiates between loaded and unloaded. I would assume that means all routed miles are paid. But, I hate to assume. Or...am I missing it?
    company drivers that are paid mileage get the same pay loaded or empty

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    Cool, thanks!

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    Thanks CYANIDE for posting all the info , very helpful. Carry transport really increased there pay . I was at L C L for 4 yrs. the pay package you listed took effect sept. 06 , they lost alot of drivers because of it. L C L used to be a union co. , now mechanics and tank washers are the only union members, in Elkhorn Wi. only . They used to pay for load-unload , pm,s all hours , miles driven for home time , drop-hook , Canada hourly wait time, short trip under 200 mi. 60.00 plus miles and load-unload, breakdown-repair lights all time payed. They been non union for a long time , not sure what year . It still a decent outfit. Little things like installing a power inverter there,s no charge. They have intransit heated tanks , so you have to idle , which is nice . T-check fuel card you can fuel anywhere , they prefer pilot and ta .

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    Do any of these companies have a terminal in the Cleveland Oh area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman7
    Do any of these companies have a terminal in the Cleveland Oh area?
    I can't speak for the others.....but Superior has a terminal in Karn's City, PA on PA 268 just south of I-80, about 140 miles from Cleveland. Whether or not you would want to drive that distance or not would be up to you.... But its also possible that there are other tanker companies in the Cleveland area. I did this search and came up with this:

    http://www.google.com/search?client=...=Google+Search

    But I would recommend doing some in-depth looking as some of the jobs may not be easy to find. Use the phone book, and look at the tankers running around the area...and look to see if those companies have terminals in the Cleveland Metro area.
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    Is the driver ok, whom laid one over on eastbound 80 in PA wednesday night??? 57 mm if I remember right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skywalker
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman7
    Do any of these companies have a terminal in the Cleveland Oh area?
    I can't speak for the others.....but Superior has a terminal in Karn's City, PA on PA 268 just south of I-80, about 140 miles from Cleveland. Whether or not you would want to drive that distance or not would be up to you.... But its also possible that there are other tanker companies in the Cleveland area. I did this search and came up with this:

    http://www.google.com/search?client=...=Google+Search

    But I would recommend doing some in-depth looking as some of the jobs may not be easy to find. Use the phone book, and look at the tankers running around the area...and look to see if those companies have terminals in the Cleveland Metro area.
    Thanks Skywalker. I wasnt asking for me but for my cousin. He is coming up on his year with Maverick and wants something different. Your favorable comments about Superior seemed like a place he might like. I'l pass it along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman7

    Thanks Skywalker. I wasnt asking for me but for my cousin. He is coming up on his year with Maverick and wants something different. Your favorable comments about Superior seemed like a place he might like. I'l pass it along.
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    what about Groendyke? do you have any info on them?

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    Cyanide I work for Miller Transport and your numbers are old.
    Loaded miles .4275
    Empty miles .30
    productive pay, time at customer. 14.35
    non productive pay 12.65
    insurance paid, retirement paid. We are paid 15 dollars per day for sleeping in truck, 15 dollars per day for meals. Miller actually pays layover,tankwash,waiting,hotels(company credit card)breakdown,hazardous road pay,holidays,and several others I cant think of.Wonderman

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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderman
    Cyanide I work for Miller Transport and your numbers are old.
    Loaded miles .4275
    Empty miles .30
    productive pay, time at customer. 14.35
    non productive pay 12.65
    insurance paid, retirement paid. We are paid 15 dollars per day for sleeping in truck, 15 dollars per day for meals. Miller actually pays layover,tankwash,waiting,hotels(company credit card)breakdown,hazardous road pay,holidays,and several others I cant think of.Wonderman
    We appreciate the "update"!! Can you expand on things...like the retirement pay? And possibly when you have time list out the different items and what they are paid? Thanks again!!
    Forrest Gump was right....and some people literally strive to prove it.....everyday. Strive not to be one of "them".... And "lemmings" are a dime a dozen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by worldisnotenough
    what about Groendyke? do you have any info on them?
    Here is the link to their Benefits page: http://www.groendyke.com/hr/benefits.html

    Beyond that ....a call to the terminal manager in your area will get you the applicable information on the pay package. Its the one thing they don't have posted on their site, but I can tell you that the drivers with Groendyke that I have talked to have no complaints in that area. 8)
    Forrest Gump was right....and some people literally strive to prove it.....everyday. Strive not to be one of "them".... And "lemmings" are a dime a dozen!

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    .....bump, do da bump..... :mrgreen:
    Forrest Gump was right....and some people literally strive to prove it.....everyday. Strive not to be one of "them".... And "lemmings" are a dime a dozen!

    Remember: The "truth WILL set you free"! If it doesn't "set you free"....."it will trap you in the cesspool of your own design".

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