Was thinking Knight, now thinking Crete???

[Karnajj]

Truck Driver Dave wrote:

I think that I'm gonna pass on Crete I just have a better feeling about Knight at this point. I have been back and forth but this seems to be where I have landed.. But we will see that is still almost 2wks away, things can and always will change!

You will look bad on this desision in the near future and realize that you made a BIG mistake!

Tho if my weekly pay was around $900 gross per week, I wouldn't be happy. So, I donno.. It's a tuff call if you ask me..

My avg week pay is $1300+++

And he gets $1000.00 for every one who drops his name at orientation............I think you get my drift.

let's get the FACTS correct!

You don't get a $1,000 for driver referrals. More :dung: from people who don't know what they are talking about.

Lets get the facts straight? You do get $1000 per person you recruit. And also there is no way you make $1300/week at the paltry sum Knight pays and get home for two nights a week. You would be hard pressed to make that much staying out for weeks at a time at the rates Knight pays.

[Karnajj]

Truck Driver Dave wrote:

I think that I'm gonna pass on Crete I just have a better feeling about Knight at this point. I have been back and forth but this seems to be where I have landed.. But we will see that is still almost 2wks away, things can and always will change!

You will look bad on this desision in the near future and realize that you made a BIG mistake!

Tho if my weekly pay was around $900 gross per week, I wouldn't be happy. So, I donno.. It's a tuff call if you ask me..

My avg week pay is $1300+++

And he gets $1000.00 for every one who drops his name at orientation............I think you get my drift.

So are you saying he is lying about his pay? Pretty chicken sh#t way of going about it. I did 14,850 paid miles in the month of August alone. Left out the night of the 1st came back 9/2. I have stated b4 that if frequent hometime is important to you look elsewhere. I got home on the 2nd and I'm not going back out till the 11th. I can do that by being one of the most productive drivers in the fleet. Drivers who avg 120,000/yr or less are held to stricter guidelines than those of us who want to bust butt. I would rather stay out for a while and then get several days off than getting 1.5 days off every week and having to rush around trying to get things done and not having anytime to enjoy myself.

[dollarshort]

Truck Driver Dave wrote:

I think that I'm gonna pass on Crete I just have a better feeling about Knight at this point. I have been back and forth but this seems to be where I have landed.. But we will see that is still almost 2wks away, things can and always will change!

You will look bad on this desision in the near future and realize that you made a BIG mistake!

Tho if my weekly pay was around $900 gross per week, I wouldn't be happy. So, I donno.. It's a tuff call if you ask me..

My avg week pay is $1300+++

And he gets $1000.00 for every one who drops his name at orientation............I think you get my drift.

let's get the FACTS correct!

You don't get a $1,000 for driver referrals. More :dung: from people who don't know what they are talking about.

Lets get the facts straight? You do get $1000 per person you recruit. And also there is no way you make $1300/week at the paltry sum Knight pays and get home for two nights a week. You would be hard pressed to make that much staying out for weeks at a time at the rates Knight pays.

As usual you are WRONG again!

We don't get a $1,000 referral bonus we get a $300 bonus. And I have only referred one person ever. So I am not on here to recruit.

I am only stating the FACTS. If these facts are hurting your agenda I apologize. I will ask you one more time to get YOUR facts straight before talking out your *****.

I guess if I said the sky was blue you would call me a liar too?

Just for an update....My payroll as of W/E 9-08-07 is $44,765.65. According to the way I do math I will easily pass the $60,000 mark I told you I would. But I am sure the way YOU do math you will come up with a whole different scenario.

Have a nice day

[Karnajj]

Once again you go off half cocked and don't even bother reading the posts in full. Dipstick was referring to the $1000 recruiting bonus that CRETE pays its drivers. It doesn't surprise me in the least that Knight only pays $300.

as far as your pay goes, you have already driven 122,200 miles so far this year? Bullsh*t. That's averaging well over 15,000 miles per month. You have stated elsewhere that you don't get paid for much other than driving so how else could you make that kind of money getting paid .36/mile? I know you have a real problem with math so I will show you how I arrived at that number. Rounded down to 44,000 divided by 8 months you come up with over 15,000/month. That's bullsh*t and you know it.

[dollarshort]

Once again you go off half cocked and don't even bother reading the posts in full. Dipstick was referring to the $1000 recruiting bonus that CRETE pays its drivers. It doesn't surprise me in the least that Knight only pays $300.

as far as your pay goes, you have already driven 122,200 miles so far this year? Bullsh*t. That's averaging well over 15,000 miles per month. You have stated elsewhere that you don't get paid for much other than driving so how else could you make that kind of money getting paid .36/mile? I know you have a real problem with math so I will show you how I arrived at that number. Rounded down to 44,000 divided by 8 months you come up with over 15,000/month. That's bullsh*t and you know it.

Again you amaze me. You are figuring EVERYTHING at .36 cpm. I do alot of loads at .45 cpm. Plus every time I do a favor or something extra I get $75 or more on top of the .45 cpm. There have been days where I do nothing but deliver local stuff off the yard hardly ever going out of the state and will make $300-400 for one day. I do this many times a month as most drivers wont do local stuff because they think it's a pain in the butt.

I have not driven 122,00 miles so far this year but you think I have.

I don't know why I keep trying to explain this to you because I know it's a waste of time for a pigheaded person like you, but anyway. :evil:

So instead of ALWAYS basing you idiotic answers of information you know absolutely nothing about the company I work for, I suggest you go try and make someone else look bad because you are not doing a good job of it here.

By the way....Knight doesn't feel they have to pay BIG BUCKS to lure drivers to drive for the company. The bigger the bonus the less the company has top offer.

[dollarshort]

Truck Driver Dave wrote:

I think that I'm gonna pass on Crete I just have a better feeling about Knight at this point. I have been back and forth but this seems to be where I have landed.. But we will see that is still almost 2wks away, things can and always will change!

You will look bad on this desision in the near future and realize that you made a BIG mistake!

Tho if my weekly pay was around $900 gross per week, I wouldn't be happy. So, I donno.. It's a tuff call if you ask me..

My avg week pay is $1300+++

And he gets $1000.00 for every one who drops his name at orientation............I think you get my drift.

let's get the FACTS correct!

You don't get a $1,000 for driver referrals. More :dung: from people who don't know what they are talking about.

Lets get the facts straight? You do get $1000 per person you recruit. And also there is no way you make $1300/week at the paltry sum Knight pays and get home for two nights a week. You would be hard pressed to make that much staying out for weeks at a time at the rates Knight pays.

As you can see in your previous post. You said "You do get $1000 per person you recruit." So "I" am going off half crocked? I am only repeating what you said origionally

Are you retarded or what? :?

[Karnajj]

Truck Driver Dave wrote:

I think that I'm gonna pass on Crete I just have a better feeling about Knight at this point. I have been back and forth but this seems to be where I have landed.. But we will see that is still almost 2wks away, things can and always will change!

You will look bad on this desision in the near future and realize that you made a BIG mistake!

Tho if my weekly pay was around $900 gross per week, I wouldn't be happy. So, I donno.. It's a tuff call if you ask me..

My avg week pay is $1300+++

And he gets $1000.00 for every one who drops his name at orientation............I think you get my drift.

let's get the FACTS correct!

You don't get a $1,000 for driver referrals. More :dung: from people who don't know what they are talking about.

Lets get the facts straight? You do get $1000 per person you recruit. And also there is no way you make $1300/week at the paltry sum Knight pays and get home for two nights a week. You would be hard pressed to make that much staying out for weeks at a time at the rates Knight pays.

As you can see in your previous post. You said "You do get $1000 per person you recruit." So "I" am going off half crocked? I am only repeating what you said origionally

Are you retarded or what? :?

That's it, you got me I quit.

[dipstick]

Truck Driver Dave wrote:

I think that I'm gonna pass on Crete I just have a better feeling about Knight at this point. I have been back and forth but this seems to be where I have landed.. But we will see that is still almost 2wks away, things can and always will change!

You will look bad on this desision in the near future and realize that you made a BIG mistake!

Tho if my weekly pay was around $900 gross per week, I wouldn't be happy. So, I donno.. It's a tuff call if you ask me..

My avg week pay is $1300+++

And he gets $1000.00 for every one who drops his name at orientation............I think you get my drift.

So are you saying he is lying about his pay? Pretty chicken sh#t way of going about it. I did 14,850 paid miles in the month of August alone. Left out the night of the 1st came back 9/2. I have stated b4 that if frequent hometime is important to you look elsewhere. I got home on the 2nd and I'm not going back out till the 11th. I can do that by being one of the most productive drivers in the fleet. Drivers who avg 120,000/yr or less are held to stricter guidelines than those of us who want to bust butt. I would rather stay out for a while and then get several days off than getting 1.5 days off every week and having to rush around trying to get things done and not having anytime to enjoy myself.

Slow down there Turbo! You and EVTR paint a really rossie picture of how wonderful Crete is. IMO your portrayals are biased based on my experience with Crete and are colored to make it look better than it really is. Question, how many referrals have you received from your recruiting efforts in the last twelve months.

I have recent experience with both Crete and Knight, both have good points and bad but I am just as busy with knight. The runs are shorter, but I am west coast regional. Check out Crete's website and you will see the average west coast regional driver is getting no better miles than Knight.
FOR A DRIVER WITH LESS THAN ONE YEAR EXPERIANCE OR ON CRETE'S WEST COAST REGIONAL THE PAY SCALE IS BETTER WITH KNIGHT and my dispatch is by far easier to work with. Are you guys lying, I don't know , are your portrayals of Crete 100% accurate? IMO no.

[evertruckerr]

dipstick wrote:

Slow down there Turbo! You and EVTR paint a really rossie picture of how wonderful Crete is. IMO your portrayals are biased based on my experience with Crete and are colored to make it look better than it really is. Question, how many referrals have you received from your recruiting efforts in the last twelve months.

I paint a rossie[sic] picture of Crete only because they are the best OTR company I have driven for. I make absolutely no effort to make them sound better than they are. I have actually had a number of instances where I actually get very upset with some of the dumb things they do.

I have learned to accept these days as the nature of the beast. I have simply learned to take a deep breath and shrug it off. This has become very helpful in many aspects of day to day truck driving. No company is perfect. It's a matter of finding a company that throws as few curves at you as possible.

As far as referrals, I have received a grand total of ONE over the last 12 months. I am not here to generate referral $ and have never once posted my actual name or driver code one this board, if someone happens to ask for my info and list me as a referral, great, but it simply doesn't happen. As a matter of fact, I have no doubt that many have put in an application as a result of the things I and other Crete drivers have posted on this board without ever giving any of us referral credit.

I do what I do here for two reasons. 1. I've found a great company and take pride in it and have no qualms about pointing other quality drivers in the same direction. 2. If I ever find myself on this board it is because I am at the very least on my 10Hr break and more likely a 34Hr reset and am a bit on the board side. Self amusement, you see.

At this particular moment I find myself nursing a tender ass after a unfortunate rendezvous with a Brown Recluse spider. It turns out its a great way to get 10 days off work and lose a good portion of flesh to venomous rot. Nasty little critters as it turns out. A few disgusting examples here:

http://images.google.com/images?clie...h+Images&gbv=2

Crete was even kind enough to get me home(1000 miles away at the time) and pay for it. I took a rental car so I could get most of my stuff back. Too much for an airplane.They are also paying my way back when I get medical clearance. Car and gas.

I am not a recruiter! However,I will not hesitate to refer another driver to Crete.

[Uturn2001]

Well to be honest I think that I am leaning toward Knight at this point.. I guess there are several reasons. Tho if my weekly pay was around $900 gross per week, I wouldn't be happy. So, I donno.. It's a tuff call if you ask me..

One thing you need to remember, and I forgot to mention again, that when I worked there (Knight) the pay was 32-34-36 cpm depending on the length of the haul. There have been several pay increases since I had to quit due to family issues.

[Truck Driver Dave]

Yeah, I did see that you had worked for Knight a while back and knew that when I posted.. Thanks for clearify for others that might not have seen that in other posts..

On another note..

It seems there are plenty of people out there ready to FLAME anyone that doesn't agree with them, and use what others say no matter how old the info. Its really kinda sad that you cant just disscuss why one company may be better then another without all the 5 yr old name calling and other BS..

So far people from Knight have been able to talk decently about there company and any experance they might have with Crete without being stupid. But there have been many Crete people talk'n crap. This alone says a lot about the people working for the different companies, which kinda helps me decide what I'm gonna do. I would rather get paid a tiny bit less and look more professional then get "more cents per mile" and look and act like a 5yr old..

Thanks all! I'm going with Knight! Peace!

[Aquarius]

Hi Dave!

Just like You,I to drove for Schneider for 2 1/2 years. For me it was between Crete,Knight,Gordon and Interstate.
Finnaly I chose Crete,in my 4th week with them,in my first 3 weeks run 8664 miles,including 2 days home time.

Unlike many of you here looking at the top potential,I asked myself what would I make if I am having a bad week? Bad weeks are unavoidable no matter whom you drive for.
I consider 2000 miles a bad week,at 0.41 cpm with Crete that is still 820$ gross...thats a good weeks worth of money with many other companies!

Best of luck to you,I believe you will do great with Knight aswell!

[Truck Driver Dave]

Thanks Driver! I think it will go well.. And if not, well then, O well!!!

[dipstick]

Yeah, I did see that you had worked for Knight a while back and knew that when I posted.. Thanks for clearify for others that might not have seen that in other posts..

On another note..

It seems there are plenty of people out there ready to FLAME anyone that doesn't agree with them, and use what others say no matter how old the info. Its really kinda sad that you cant just disscuss why one company may be better then another without all the 5 yr old name calling and other BS..

So far people from Knight have been able to talk decently about there company and any experance they might have with Crete without being stupid. But there have been many Crete people talk'n crap. This alone says a lot about the people working for the different companies, which kinda helps me decide what I'm gonna do. I would rather get paid a tiny bit less and look more professional then get "more cents per mile" and look and act like a 5yr old..

Thanks all! I'm going with Knight! Peace!

Dave, don't judge the quality of Crete or Knight drivers by what you have seen here. My observation is that the Crete drivers are as a whole are more professional and smarter to boot than the Knight drivers. Before you show up to work please talk to Knight drivers at the terminal you will be working out of. See if getting empties is a problem in their freight lane because if it is you will loose a lot of money. I sat in LA for the the weekend last weekend , again in Northern Cal three weeks ago and a half a day a week before that. Their trailer availability and maintenance sucks. If the choice is between Crete National and Knight I would go to Crete if you can stomach fighting to get home. You will make a hell of a lot more money. I totaled my first six weeks with Knight and my average is 2263 per week. When I left Crete's national board I was told I was the top rookie producer and was up for rookie of the year (big deal ha). My point being is I know how to get miles and log to my advantage. But Crete western regional probably is no better than Knight out here as the Crete driver loading next to me says he is only getting 2200 a week for the last six weeks. Whatever you choose good luck.

[Gearjammin' Penguin]

My SO is tormented with his current co right now - he sits, sits, and then sits at times! He just made his first year driving but had jumped co's once (he's been with this one 7 months)... he doesn't want to make another mistake (he regrets leaving the first one), but obviously, wheels not rolling are not making $$$! He was trying to make a solid year with this co before leaving but can't see himself hanging much longer! :?

Gee, sounds like my wonderful experience on Knight's container fleet. <2300 mi/wk, and no resolution from these bozos. If you run for Knight and they're treating you well, good for you...but I'm getting butt-raped here. By the end of the month, I'll be gone from this stupid company one way or the other. :x

[BIG JEEP on 44's]

One can only really know for sure about a company regarding treatmen/pay until they themselves work for that perspective employer .

[headborg]

Lets see. Assuming you do make the $60,000 mark at .36 cpm that's over 166,000 miles and you make it home most weekends?! Lets assume that you will really do that. At Crete, making .42 cpm, I would only have to drive 143,000 miles which is much easier to attain. Unless you are making way more than .36 cpm or you are on some sort of dedicated fleet that has a lot of stops that you get paid separately for I can't see you making that kind of money.

LOL! I love it when a driver proves he's able to do the math + smell B.S. a mile away!

This is a no brainer with a small twist..

Crete .41 cent per mile practical( Shaffer pays same too...same everything except no haz-mat, a blue truck instead of Red--longer length of haul)

The other facts that were missed are...the original poster stated he only had a year's experience! That sliding pay scale at Knight isn't going to reach into the .40c level (unless the length of haul is What....less than 250miles......)
Plus, Shaffer(maybe Crete too) will rent you a rental car to get you to Orientation...Knight will have you on a Grayhound for 2 days/nights!

Knight......sliding pay scale .34 cent if length of haul(trip) over 1000 miles/ .36 if length if haul is under 500miles
short miles = dividing up the weekly pie more which invites more Murphy's law to screw you out of total miles and a lot more WORK!

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