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    Default Back With CR England

    Well considering what ive been through with swift I decided to go back to CR England in utah to get my training finished, I was givin a great trainer, this guy is a very patient person and very understanding to the needs of the trainee, he has me driving at night which I am not a night person so its a little tough for me but I push myself real hard to do it, he doesnt have me driving past 1 am and I usually take my shift at 2pm or 3pm, we have a dedicated from portland OR, to atlanta GA, and back, I get 2 days off in a hotel by myslef. in portland OR

    I know alot of drivers think that england is a bad company, but at this point while im training, I would rather sacrifice a good comapny for a bad one as long as I have a very good trainer and I do, because its not the company you have to deal with on a day to day basis in the truck, its the trainer , and having a good trainer can make all the diffrence in the world.

    I will consider another company after I get my 6 months in.

    BTW 2 years ago when I trained with england the 1st time, they were pushing the lease program at 85 cents a mile, but it has gone up to 91 cents a mile, also 2 years ago you started the lease in debt with england, but now they defere the first payment on the lease so as to give you a chance to make money first, so your first payment is not due till the second week, I myself am not going to lease a truck, even though it seems that england has actually started putting alot of effort into the lease drivers. but for whatever any of you new drivers decide I wish you the best, and I hope that you get a trainer like the one ive gotten. Have a great day and maby ill see you out there. good luck.

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    Default ''CR ENGLAND INC TRUCKING SCHOOL BAD NEWS"!

    ' Im sorry about the last post. so once more CR England Inc.
    This trucking company located in Salt Lake City West Valley Ut.
    Many former Drivers 'and Students' are talking about England..
    And it's overall manner' bad staff lease scam' students leaving.
    The same day! whats that tell you! CR England is bad news.
    Dont Go! Its that Easy to see why many complaints'.all forums.
    Have comments about CR England Inc. Thanks Roco. :shock:

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    Dude, not trying to be rude but you need to learn how to type. Your post are VERY hard to read!

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    Regardless of how they try to package it their lease program is still garbage.
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    they were pushing the lease program at 85 cents a mile, but it has gone up to 91 cents a mile, also 2 years ago you started the lease in debt with england, but now they defere the first payment on the lease so as to give you a chance to make money first, so your first payment is not due till the second week
    As sure as the sun comes up in the morning, there will be weeks where you make NO money and you'll still have to make the lease payment...it will hurt! Tell that to your landlord or mortgage company.... :shock:
    It's fun living in the gray areas of a black and white world!

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    Default CR England

    So many companies count on ignorant, or downright stupid, drivers. I was one early on. CR England is easily the biggest bottom feeder I've heard of, and they have been since I started driving 13 years ago. Trucking pimps in my opinion.

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    About the only lower company than CR England is maybe Covenat or maybe Prime but there are not to many lower than England anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironeagle2006
    About the only lower company than CR England is maybe Covenat or maybe Prime but there are not to many lower than England anymore.
    I don't know, they all suck in slightly different ways.

    Covenant gets an honorable mention for asking their drivers to purchase chains for a company truck in the winter!

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    Default Covenant

    Covenant does not ask drivers to buy chains. They give the driver the option of buying there own chains or the company buying them. If you are running in a chain area alot you should just buy them due to other drivers getting you chains cause they dont have them. If you own them you always know they are on your truck
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyCCMJ
    Covenant does not ask drivers to buy chains. They give the driver the option of buying there own chains or the company buying them. If you are running in a chain area alot you should just buy them due to other drivers getting you chains cause they dont have them. If you own them you always know they are on your truck
    That's the dumbest thing I have heard in a long time.
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    Default Re: Covenant

    Quote Originally Posted by Karnajj
    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyCCMJ
    Covenant does not ask drivers to buy chains. They give the driver the option of buying there own chains or the company buying them. If you are running in a chain area alot you should just buy them due to other drivers getting you chains cause they dont have them. If you own them you always know they are on your truck
    That's the dumbest thing I have heard in a long time.

    LOL, u shouldnt have to purchase chains for any company equipment!

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    Default Re: Covenant

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyCCMJ
    Covenant does not ask drivers to buy chains. They give the driver the option of buying there own chains or the company buying them. If you are running in a chain area alot you should just buy them due to other drivers getting you chains cause they dont have them. If you own them you always know they are on your truck
    Do you check them out and have to return them?

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    Default Covenant

    You can say it is stupid. But you don't have to buy them if you dont want to. But if you run in that area a lot it is the easiest way to do it. You have company chains you might need to go to Washington and need chains but while you was dispatched on a load in Ohio someone was headed toward Donner Pass and has no chains you are in the same area they are so the company sends them over to your truck and they get your chains. Now this is before you have been dispatched on the load going to Washington. You don't own your chains so you cannot say no. So you then get your dispatch to washington and you have not chains so you have to pass the load to someone who has chains or hope there is someone who has chains in the area. But they are getting ready to buy 2000 sets of tire chains by this winter.
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    Default Re: Covenant

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyCCMJ
    You can say it is stupid. But you don't have to buy them if you dont want to. But if you run in that area a lot it is the easiest way to do it. You have company chains you might need to go to Washington and need chains but while you was dispatched on a load in Ohio someone was headed toward Donner Pass and has no chains you are in the same area they are so the company sends them over to your truck and they get your chains. Now this is before you have been dispatched on the load going to Washington. You don't own your chains so you cannot say no. So you then get your dispatch to washington and you have not chains so you have to pass the load to someone who has chains or hope there is someone who has chains in the area. But they are getting ready to buy 2000 sets of tire chains by this winter.
    This makes no sense at all since Covenant has a NO CHIANUP policy. If the conditions are that bad, they would rather you shut down, than chain up. As much as I hate this company in my brief time there, I will give them credit for their emphasis on safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by driver67373
    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyCCMJ
    You can say it is stupid. But you don't have to buy them if you dont want to. But if you run in that area a lot it is the easiest way to do it. You have company chains you might need to go to Washington and need chains but while you was dispatched on a load in Ohio someone was headed toward Donner Pass and has no chains you are in the same area they are so the company sends them over to your truck and they get your chains. Now this is before you have been dispatched on the load going to Washington. You don't own your chains so you cannot say no. So you then get your dispatch to washington and you have not chains so you have to pass the load to someone who has chains or hope there is someone who has chains in the area. But they are getting ready to buy 2000 sets of tire chains by this winter.
    This makes no sense at all since Covenant has a NO CHIANUP policy. If the conditions are that bad, they would rather you shut down, than chain up. As much as I hate this company in my brief time there, I will give them credit for their emphasis on safety.

    Well, in Oregon and Washington, you are rquired to carry chains over the passes from November to April, no matter if you need them or not... drag chains are required as well.
    It's fun living in the gray areas of a black and white world!

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    Default Re: Covenant

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyCCMJ
    You can say it is stupid. But you don't have to buy them if you dont want to. But if you run in that area a lot it is the easiest way to do it. You have company chains you might need to go to Washington and need chains but while you was dispatched on a load in Ohio someone was headed toward Donner Pass and has no chains you are in the same area they are so the company sends them over to your truck and they get your chains. Now this is before you have been dispatched on the load going to Washington. You don't own your chains so you cannot say no. So you then get your dispatch to washington and you have not chains so you have to pass the load to someone who has chains or hope there is someone who has chains in the area. But they are getting ready to buy 2000 sets of tire chains by this winter.
    So rather than do what everybody else does and provide all their trucks with chains they come up with some assinine policy of swapping chains or loads with someone else with the express intent of pissing off the drivers to the point that they will buy their own chains. Smart, real smart.
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    Default chains

    think what you want driver. there is always that one person (this time it is you) that wants to discourage other drivers from companies that they feel are negitave. maybe you should be alittle more open and not talk about things you have no idea on. I mean i bet your company has its fair share of problems but you don't me talking about them.
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    Wow, this went from CRE to Covenant.

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    Don't forget Prime.... :wink:
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    Default Re: Back With CR England

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarasdad91
    BTW 2 years ago when I trained with england the 1st time, they were pushing the lease program at 85 cents a mile, but it has gone up to 91 cents a mile, also 2 years ago you started the lease in debt with england, but now they defere the first payment on the lease so as to give you a chance to make money first, so your first payment is not due till the second week, I myself am not going to lease a truck, even though it seems that england has actually started putting alot of effort into the lease drivers. but for whatever any of you new drivers decide I wish you the best, and I hope that you get a trainer like the one ive gotten. Have a great day and maby ill see you out there. good luck.
    Dude, You obviously have not a single clue what it costs to run a truck, and CRE obviously has pulled the wool over your eyes as to the real costs to run a truck, take care of the maint and escrows, and pay the driver... Oh btw your responsible for your own benefits, social security, taxes... 91 cpm what a joke. Go round up some real numbers off this site what people are willing to run a truck for and make a living then go back and look at those sham numbers from CRE. I see you claim your not going to lease a truck. Well we cannot count the number of people that have come on here that were going CRE saying the same thing, and the next thing you knew they had drank the Kool Aid and were signed up in a lease. They gotcha where they want ya, now they are going to sign you up for a lease.

    You want a good training company take a look at Schneider. At least there your dealing with a good company and good training. You won't make much in the way of money, but hey you were looking at the training aspects of this anyway and Schneider isn't far off from CRE's pay numbers. At Schneider you won't be pressured into a BS lease, and you will be treated fair.

    And no I don't work for Schneider. Their reputation preceeds them.

    Longsnowsm
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    They should be changed frequently,
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