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    Default Heartland

    I would like to more about this company any info please. I check their website out but need driver piont of view. can you make any money and miles ? I like to run at least 3500 or 4500.

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    you can not even come close to 3000 miles. They want you to sit all day and pick up loads at night that only go 300 miles. I would avoid them.

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    Even if they kept you moving it would be very difficult to get 3500+ miles every week in a governed truck.
    Finding the right trucking company is like finding the right person to marry. I really comes down to finding one whose BS you can put up with and who can put up wih yours.

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    Default Re: Heartland

    Quote Originally Posted by apache34
    I would like to more about this company any info please. I check their website out but need driver piont of view. can you make any money and miles ? I like to run at least 3500 or 4500.
    if yo want that many miles per week id check out Dot line transportation

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    They are a cheap outfit. Ran for them for about 6 weeks, was all I could take.

    They are a pain about fuel, want you to fuel at terminals even if you have to run out of route to do and will not pay for the extra miles. Their drivers have to pay for showers alot b/c they don't get shower credits since fueling at termials mostly.

    Will sit / swap loads to run 250-300 miles at night. They are the king of short haul loads.Don't be fooled by their pay .....there are alot better companies to work for that will treat you alot better. For me the pay rate did not offset the negatives of working for them

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    I second the sentiments here.

    They only do short haul crap. Load by 1700, run all night, unload by 0700, spend the day waiting on reload or driving to reload, then repeat.

    They do not pay for your dock time, unless it goes over 8 hours. You will discover that alot of your dock time is around 7 hours, hence no pay for all that sitting.

    They like to micromanage everything you do. Except the people doing the micromanaging have never driven a truck for a living, and as such have no real clue as to what you go through. But it looks good on paper.

    Some days you can expect to do several reloads in a day. You can imagine what a 500 mile day is like when you have to load and empty at least twice in that day.

    If you advise them that you cannot legally or safely make a scheduled appointment, they will tell you that it is OK, but they will not change your appt, and they will charge you with a service failure. Your service failures are the excuse they will use not to pay you any of the bonuses they hype.

    Breakdown pay only after 24 hours. Expect to fight them about hotel reimbursement. They think you should be able to get a hotel room for $20.

    All fueling to be done at terminals only, except in rare occasions where you will only be allowed to fuel at Pilot. So expect to either pay for your showers or take them when you arrive at a terminal. Either way, the showers will be crappy.

    64MPH trucks. Get used to waving at JB Hunt when they blow by you, and get used to being stuck behind Swift, because you can't pass them in less than 20 miles.

    Bare bones trucks.

    Still want to drive for them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highwayman
    They do not pay for your dock time, unless it goes over 8 hours. You will discover that alot of your dock time is around 7 hours, hence no pay for all that sitting.
    OK coldfrostymug... where are you? No detention pay?? :shock: Does anyone else find it strange that Twilight_Flyer isnt commenting on this thread... hmmmm

    Quote Originally Posted by Highwayman
    If you advise them that you cannot legally or safely make a scheduled appointment, they will tell you that it is OK, but they will not change your appt, and they will charge you with a service failure. Your service failures are the excuse they will use not to pay you any of the bonuses they hype.
    *GASP* You mean I wont be making 50 CPM and getting 3000+ miles a week??

    Threads like this is what makes CAD the best!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highwayman
    Some days you can expect to do several reloads in a day. You can imagine what a 500 mile day is like when you have to load and empty at least twice in that day.
    Thanks for reminding me of this little tidbit. :idea: One day I did three loads. :x

    They are called Heartless Express for a reason.

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    With Heartland as a Solo driver they told me you'll basicly stay east of the Mississippi River. Average haul 600 miles.
    Give me the Sea or the Open Road

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    Does anyone else find it strange that Twilight_Flyer isnt commenting on this thread... hmmmm
    I don't reply to any Heartland posts. There is simply no reason. Drivers will make their decisions regardless of what I say and quite frankly, there's not enough hours in the day for me to get baited into long drawn-out arguments that go absolutely nowhere. As long as posters follow the rules of the board, comments, both positive and negative, are fine and dandy.

    That said, I know Highwayman. I like Highwayman. We happen to disagree on a few things Heartland. And you know something? That's OK. There are a few people on this board that could learn something about diverse opinions being an OK thing.

    :wink:

    Carry on.

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    i drove for heartland sat alot drove alot at nite unload at 7 sit all day couldnt get home

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    Quote Originally Posted by coastie
    With Heartland as a Solo driver they told me you'll basicly stay east of the Mississippi River. Average haul 600 miles.
    You'll get a 600 mile load if your lucky , average LOH for regional is 300 miles , OTR is a pathetic 500 miles per trip .

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    heartland shouls be considered the bottom of the barrel or just as bad as werner.russ gerdin the owner does not give a s**t about the drivers ,or how they are treated,and his son is just as bad.maybe if drivers would park his trucks and find someone to drive for it would make them and other companies change their ways or just fade out period.just alittle tidbit,if your home time falls on a wednsday they will hold more then half of your check,just in case they have to pay somebody to pick it up as an abandment.

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    1800 miles * .50 = 900

    2500 miles * .36 = 900


    It all comes out in the wash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truckiedriver
    1800 miles * .50 = 900

    2500 miles * .36 = 900


    It all comes out in the wash.
    True, but that 2500 miles is at the end of the week, and the 1800 miles is only about half way through the week. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by truckiedriver
    1800 miles * .50 = 900

    2500 miles * .36 = 900


    It all comes out in the wash.
    First of all, it take 7 years to get to Heartland's .50 cpm top-rate. I think at a company like Crete after 7 years you would get .47 cpm on practical miles.

    1800 X .50 = $900
    2500 X .47 = $1175

    Keep in mind also that Heartland pays on HHG, so to get paid $900 you would actually have to drive nearly 2000 miles. And from what I've read here, looks like they send their drivers OOR big-time for no money to fuel at terminals. Also, like JB Hunt their utilization sucks: empty out at a consignee, sit all day then drive 300 miles at night? You couldn't pay me .60 cpm to deal with that crap.

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    real truck drivers are compentant enough to drive at night with no troubles, but not pansy asses like cold frosty mug. real drivers do it in the dark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jedfxg
    real truck drivers are compentant enough to drive at night with no troubles, but not pansy asses like cold frosty mug. real drivers do it in the dark.
    No personal attacks. You'll get banned.

    Believe me, I hate cold***gymug too.

    PM me if u wanna meet somewhere CFM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prodigy
    Quote Originally Posted by jedfxg
    real truck drivers are compentant enough to drive at night with no troubles, but not pansy asses like cold frosty mug. real drivers do it in the dark.
    No personal attacks. You'll get banned.

    Believe me, I hate cold***gymug too.

    PM me if u wanna meet somewhere CFM

    That's a personal attack to , btw I'm sure coldfrostymug drives at night like most LTL drivers , do some research before you post .

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    One thing that is very obvious about coldfrostydud, is that if the topic has any relevance whatsoever to OTR drivers, he is the first to comment about how bad OTR sucks, and how he feels that it takes and takes from the drivers, and gives nothing in return, and in his mind the only way to go is local. Believe me, i like my local job just as much as the next guy, but i also respect and value the job that the OTR guys/girls do, i might not agree with everything involved in OTR trucking and i'm sure everyone has their grievances, but what separates you and i and everyone else from coldfrostDUD, is the fact that we all seem to have a respect for one another, no matter the job you do, i don't care if you pump out crappers, or haul sod like i used to do, as long as at the end of the day you're satisfied with the job you did, and show up the next day and do it just as good, then i believe that makes you a good truckdriver, underpaid, or not paid enough for what you do is besides the point, the fact that we're out there everyday running the roads is what really matters, so COLDFROSTY, give it a rest, i've said it before, and i'll say it again, your posts get old and monotonous, and i'm almost certain we've all lost interest in what you have to say.

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