Thats It for CENTRAL i QUIT !!!!!!

[barriomusic]

heres my last check. man im missing a trip on here, plus the 250.00 lumper fee is being charged to me. the drama never ends. but going to local interview today. lick my wounds and move on. just posted this so you guys could see how this so called lease all ads up. now if you were a company drvr this check would have been around 600.00 for the wk.

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SETTLEMENTS for bbbb123 for 2007-04-18 Check numberxxxxx2x CHECK TOTAL: $14.76
TOTAL
Load Truck Origin Destination Milestype Miles Rate Amount

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5380671 70243 PHOENIX , AZ EL PASO , TX E 399 85.00 339.15
5380671 70243 EL PASO , TX IRVING , TX L 609 85.00 517.65
5384791 70243 LIBERAL , KS DODGE CITY , KS E 88 85.00 74.80
5384791 70243 DODGE CITY , KS PHOENIX , AZ L 921 85.00 782.85

TOTALS:
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2017
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$1714.45

DEDUCTIONS/REIMBURSEMENTS for bbbbb123
Load Type Description Memo Balance Original Earnings/
Deductions Reimbursements NonTaxable
Deductions
B 401k 401k -0.0
5379569 D State Road and Fuel Taxes already crgd on 4/11/07 0.00
5380671 D Gal: 121.2 70243 EL PASO TX -342.92
5380671 D Fees: 70243 EL PASO TX -0.65
5380671 D Gal: 35.5 70243 ROBINSON TX -98.06
5380671 D State Road and Fuel Taxes -4.78
5380671 D State Road and Fuel Taxes -7.30
5384791 D Gal: 30.0 70243 DODGE CITY KS -86.16
5384791 D Advance: 70243 XCASH 0.00
5384791 D Adv Fees: 70243 XCASH -1.00
5384791 D Gal: 61.2 70243 TUCUMCARI NM -176.53
5384791 D Advance: 70243 TUCUMCARI NM -107.00
5384791 D Gal: 77.6 70243 ALBUQUERQ NM -217.22
5384791 D Fees: 70243 ALBUQUERQ NM -0.30
5384791 D Advance: 70243 ALBUQUERQ NM -107.00
5384791 D Hired Unloading no rec -250.00
5384791 D Gal: 53.0 70243 CASA GRAN AZ -147.14
5384791 D State Road and Fuel Taxes -1.06
5384791 D State Road and Fuel Taxes -11.04
D Qualcomm Statement Retrieval 0.00
D iel truck: 70243 JACIER2007-02-19 14:38:59.0 -419.00
D qualcomm truck: 70243 JACIER2007-02-19 14:38:59.0 -22.78
D maintenance truck: 70243 JACIER2007-02-19 14:38:59.0 -50.00
D performance truck: 70243 JACIER2007-02-19 14:38:59.0 -55.00
D ss_registration truck: 70243 JACIER2007-02-19 14:38:59.0 -25.10
D physical truck: 70243 JACIER2007-02-19 14:38:59.0 -48.29
D non_tractor_ins truck: 70243 JACIER2007-02-19 14:38:59.0 -6.70
D tax_att truck: 70243 JACIER2007-02-19 14:38:59.0 -16.00
D heavy_tax truck: 70243 JACIER2007-02-19 14:38:59.0 -10.58
D prepass truck: 70243 JACIER2007-02-19 14:38:59.0 -2.31
D occupational_ins truck: 70243 JACIER2007-02-19 14:38:59.0 -33.46
5365357 E DETENTION stop[4] 60.00
5379569 E Fuel Surcharge - Owner Op already pd on 4/11/07 0.00
5380671 E Fuel Surcharge - Owner Op 166.26
5384791 E Stops 50.00
5384791 E On-time Service 20.00
5384791 E Fuel Surcharge - Owner Op 251.43

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547.69
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0.00
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-2247.38

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Totals: 2262.14 0.00 -2247.38
Taxable Earnings: 2262.14
Deductions: -2247.38

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Check on 2007-04-18: $14.76


YTD SUMS
YTD Taxable Earnings: 0.00
Other 3915.22

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YTD NET: 3915.22

[Jumbo]

The numbers are hard to read for me but the only number that counted is the bottom line. Sorry that it didn't work out for you. I hope somebody who was thinking about l/p reads this and thinks again.

[PackRatTDI]

So all you made for that week was $14?!?

[barriomusic]

So all you made for that week was $14?!?

yeah 14 dollars. what a mess. i had a few good checks but the 200.00 one last week and now this 14 dollar one got me sayin WHUT THE FUQ, im outta here. damn jerry moyes or whatever his name is lol/

[truckiedriver]

Are those cash advances in Tucumcari and Albuquerque of 107.00 each?

5384791 D Advance: 70243 TUCUMCARI NM -107.00

5384791 D Advance: 70243 ALBUQUERQ NM -107.00

Also did you turn in the receipt for lumpers?

5384791 D Hired Unloading no rec -250.00

You should still be able to get that money back.

[Sheepdancer]

Not to say that you shouldnt quit....however. If you knew it was a slow week, which any otr job with any company would have occasionally, why would you pay for a lumper? Im assuming from your post that you have to pay for your own lumpers. Why not get back there and unload your freight yourself. Personally, I wouldnt pay 250 bucks to sit down and watch someone else work. Without those advances and that lumper charge, it still would have been a bad check, but most likely enough to get buy for a week or so.

[TwinPack]

Sheepdancer wrote:

why would you pay for a lumper?

He may not have had a choice...some receivers mandate you use their lumpers and will not let you onto the dock to unload your trailer.

[PackRatTDI]

Sheepdancer wrote:

why would you pay for a lumper?

He may not have had a choice...some receivers mandate you use their lumpers and will not let you onto the dock to unload your trailer.

A 45,000 lb load of IBP meat in boxes on the floor? No thanks, thats what lumpers are for.

[Jackrabbit379]

A 45,000 lb load of IBP meat in boxes on the floor? No thanks, thats what lumpers are for.

Thus the term, Throwing Groceries. :P

Did you have a realistic, objective idea of what your costs would be before becoming a lease operator? Do you have an accountant that knows the transportation industry that you trust?

[jnk2001]

Not to say that you shouldnt quit....however. If you knew it was a slow week, which any otr job with any company would have occasionally, why would you pay for a lumper? Im assuming from your post that you have to pay for your own lumpers. Why not get back there and unload your freight yourself. Personally, I wouldnt pay 250 bucks to sit down and watch someone else work. Without those advances and that lumper charge, it still would have been a bad check, but most likely enough to get buy for a week or so.

Easy for you to say when you're sitting in your cushy office. When was the last time YOU lumped a trailer? If the back goes, so goes your job.

[NevadaJim]

So all you made for that week was $14?!?

He made more than $14. He spent $200 of it before he made it and then shelled out another $250 for a lumper. Although not great week it wasn't $14.

Maybe someone that has some lease experience can answer this. Does a lease driver have the opportunity to check on lumper mandates before he takes a load. I'm just thinking out loud. But, maybe if a driver knew beforehand if he can unload himself, or what the charges for a lumper would be, he would be able to choose loads to his advantage. These lease deals seem to already suck, but I guess lumpers could ruin your week if caught off guard. Two lumper loads @ $250 each would make me want to stay home and sleep.

[PackRatTDI]

So all you made for that week was $14?!?

He made more than $14. He spent $200 of it before he made it and then shelled out another $250 for a lumper. Although not great week it wasn't $14.

Maybe someone that has some lease experience can answer this. Does a lease driver have the opportunity to check on lumper mandates before he takes a load. I'm just thinking out loud. But, maybe if a driver knew beforehand if he can unload himself, or what the charges for a lumper would be, he would be able to choose loads to his advantage. These lease deals seem to already suck, but I guess lumpers could ruin your week if caught off guard. Two lumper loads @ $250 each would make me want to stay home and sleep.

In the 2 years I drove for Stevens, I only once had to pay more than $150 to unload a trailer. $240 for a load of frozen food, 4000 some cases all on the floor. The average cost to unload a meat trailer in the NYC area was between $100 and $150, depending on where you unloaded at. The $150 fee was at a Brooklyn reciever that had to unload the truck off the street, they didn't have a dock you could back into.

The only time I touched a meat load was when I delivered to Empire Beef in Rochester, NY. The lumper service would give you a helper free of charge, but would charge you to unload the trailer. $90 for a full trailer.

But that was 7 years ago.

[Sheepdancer]

Not to say that you shouldnt quit....however. If you knew it was a slow week, which any otr job with any company would have occasionally, why would you pay for a lumper? Im assuming from your post that you have to pay for your own lumpers. Why not get back there and unload your freight yourself. Personally, I wouldnt pay 250 bucks to sit down and watch someone else work. Without those advances and that lumper charge, it still would have been a bad check, but most likely enough to get buy for a week or so.

Easy for you to say when you're sitting in your cushy office. When was the last time YOU lumped a trailer? If the back goes, so goes your job.

Just because I sit behind a desk for a living, doesnt mean Im lazy and I wouldnt do work. I can tell you that if I was a driver and it cost me 250 bucks to have a trailer unloaded, I would do it myself. Like I said, I just couldnt bring myself to pay 250 bucks, sit on my butt and watch someone else get a free workout.
By the way, during college, I worked at a walmart distrubution center loading and unloading trucks by hand. Didnt bother me one bit, in fact it was fun. To me paying for a lumper sounds like that even though I pay for a gym membership, I pay some dude 250 bucks to go work out for me.

[jnk2001]

Not to say that you shouldnt quit....however. If you knew it was a slow week, which any otr job with any company would have occasionally, why would you pay for a lumper? Im assuming from your post that you have to pay for your own lumpers. Why not get back there and unload your freight yourself. Personally, I wouldnt pay 250 bucks to sit down and watch someone else work. Without those advances and that lumper charge, it still would have been a bad check, but most likely enough to get buy for a week or so.

Easy for you to say when you're sitting in your cushy office. When was the last time YOU lumped a trailer? If the back goes, so goes your job.

Just because I sit behind a desk for a living, doesnt mean Im lazy and I wouldnt do work. I can tell you that if I was a driver and it cost me 250 bucks to have a trailer unloaded, I would do it myself. Like I said, I just couldnt bring myself to pay 250 bucks, sit on my butt and watch someone else get a free workout.
By the way, during college, I worked at a walmart distrubution center loading and unloading trucks by hand. Didnt bother me one bit, in fact it was fun.

yeah, when I was 20 I used to unload boxcars in houston in the summer. doesn't mean I'm going to do it now.

I see you didn't make a career out of unloading trucks at walmart...sure, it's fun for a summer or two..

[Uturn2001]

Packrat the times they are a changing.

When I started driving in 1999 the first lumper I hired charged $100 to unload and breakdown the load.

$35-$50 was what I got charged for straight pulls.

In 2005, the last year I drove OTR, straight pulls were up to $75-$100, and if they had to do anything beyond that it went to as much as $350. :shock: :shock:

[PackRatTDI]

Packrat the times they are a changing.

When I started driving in 1999 the first lumper I hired charged $100 to unload and breakdown the load.

$35-$50 was what I got charged for straight pulls.

In 2005, the last year I drove OTR, straight pulls were up to $75-$100, and if they had to do anything beyond that it went to as much as $350. :shock: :shock:

Damn, I'm in the wrong line of work.

[Sheepdancer]

yeah, when I was 20 I used to unload boxcars in houston in the summer. doesn't mean I'm going to do it now.

I see you didn't make a career out of unloading trucks at walmart...sure, it's fun for a summer or t

I tell you what....if people are paying 250 bucks to unload a truck, if anyone is ever in NW arkansas and needs a truck unloaded, I will do it for 225. And yes, I will still have fun doing it. Sometimes you have to sweat a little to make money.
My point of this thread still stands. He was griping that he only had a 14 buck check. He could have made at least 250 more if he would have unloaded himself. Where it stands, He is quiting his job, he is broke...and the lumper is making more than him and probably in better shape. I just dont get it.

[devildice]

I tell you what....if people are paying 250 bucks to unload a truck, if anyone is ever in NW arkansas and needs a truck unloaded, I will do it for 225.

I'll do it for 200 :wink:

[Sheepdancer]

Damn, I'm in the wrong line of work.

Lol Pack. I was thinking the same thing. Perhaps I need to start a lumper service on the side. I wasnt aware that drivers or companies paid so much for lumpers. Crazy