Abandoned in Davenport, IA

[Sevlow]

After trying swift, hubby decided to go with Florilli out of West Liberty, IA. It went good for awhile then we ran into some problems with traffic and such, he got sick to while on a delivery and they just made it out to be ALL his fault. They kept asking him to bump the dock while on his ten hr break, When he wouldn't do it, they gave him a service failure. He also got the service failure when he re-powered with somebody in OH. Because the other driver was late.

After sitting in Aurora, IL for 2 days behind a restaurant that has truck parking, I told hubby to call them. They claim that they couldn't trust him anymore to make deliveries because he was late 5 times. WELL only one of them was HIS fault! But they made it out to be all his fault.They had us deadhead to freightliner in Davenport Thursday night. Said they were just going to have a meeting with him.

Well as it turns out they ended up firing him, taking his pay check for drug screen, physical and bus ticket. They left us stranded there at freightliner. Hubby asked well how am I going to get home now, Kurt, the guy who "tried to save his job" said that's not my problem. So we cleaned the truck out and waited till 3pm ct, to see if he got his check like Kurt promised. He called and bitched at him and all he could say was that's not my problem.
So we had to call my parents to wire us $400 to get home on. We are absolutely done with trucking. Tired of the Bull, it was nice to meet you all and you all have been very helpful. It's time for us to move on

[Smooth]

I thought you were with Wenger ? what happened to that ?

And as far as bumping the dock on your 10 hr break , sometimes there is no way around it , that's trucking .

[ronjon619]

He also got the service failure when he re-powered with somebody in OH. Because the other driver was late.

What is re-powering?

[Sevlow]

Well wenger was a joke they asked him to back log and such, it's against the law to bump a dock on your ten hr break. We've asked tons of drivers that even owner operators.

[Rev.Vassago]

They kept asking him to bump the dock while on his ten hr break, When he wouldn't do it, they gave him a service failure.

Was he up against his 11 hours? If not, I can see why they gave him a service failure. He would have had to re-start his break, but if he had the hours available, then the company was certianly within their right to demand that the load be delivered.

They claim that they couldn't trust him anymore to make deliveries because he was late 5 times. WELL only one of them was HIS fault!

I'm confused here. How was he late 5 times, and it wasn't his fault 4 of them?

it's against the law to bump a dock on your ten hr break. We've asked tons of drivers that even owner operators.

Yes - it's against the FMCSA rules to be ON DUTY during a 10 hour break. But it is NOT against the rules to cut a 10 hour break short to make a delivery when you have the hours available, and then take the 10 hour break after you have delivered.

[Sevlow]

Traffic, he was sick, and yes his day was up, when you are on your break, you are on your break. he was late 5 times and only one was his fault. A re-power is when you meet another driver to swap trailers.

[Sevlow]

Isn't that considered split logging then, if you do that on your break?

[Rev.Vassago]

Traffic, he was sick, and yes his day was up, when you are on your break, you are on your break.

Sorry, but if he had the hours available, then he could have delivered. There is no FMCSA rule that says once you start a 10 hour break, you can't go back on duty if you have the hours available to do so.

[Sevlow]

It doesn't matter anymore, we are done, after being stranded by a company like this and worrying how we're going to get home, plus having to borrow money from my parents, its just NOT right. I mean being sick is not your fault when it happens while you are out there. I mean REALLY sick, plus being stuck in traffic due to a semi going off the road on I-75 held us up, plus construction for another 2 more hrs. We simply ran out of hours to get it there. So that wasn't his fault, that accounted for 2 of them, plus not bumping the dock when he had no hrs of his day left, the re-power being late. We tried to tell them to about getting a re-power or re-setting the appointment. Dispatch wouldn't do anything and they tell you on the computer, if you feel anything is going to jeopardize load to contact dispatch. Well we kept doing that it's not our fault night time dispatch can't do anything. Hell, even his day dispatcher wouldn't do anything. They basically wanted him to get it there even if it meant going over his 11 hr or 14 hr day. Tell me that is legal!

[Rev.Vassago]

Isn't that considered split logging then, if you do that on your break?

If the amount of time already spent in the sleeper is more than 2 hours, then yes - you can split log it. For example, if he had 11 hours driving and 2 hours in the sleeper, he could have done the unload (assuming he took the sleeper berth time at the shipper), and then taken the remaining 8 hours in the sleeper to satisfy the regs. He would have then had 11 hours driving available to him, and 12 hours on the 14 hour clock.

There are many ways to navigate through the regs while maintaining compliance. Something tells me that the company was right in this instance. Just a hunch, and not trying to be mean about it.

[Rev.Vassago]

I mean being sick is not your fault when it happens while you are out there. I mean REALLY sick,

Yes - being sick is a legitimate excuse, as the FMCSA rules state that you cannot drive while sick. I assume that he called it in to the company with plenty of notice?

plus being stuck in traffic due to a semi going off the road on I-75 held us up, plus construction for another 2 more hrs. We simply ran out of hours to get it there. So that wasn't his fault, that accounted for 2 of them,

It is situations such as this that the adverse conditions clause was written for.

Were the company's loads just that tight on time, or was there a time management issue going on here as well?

[Orangetxguy]

Yes - being sick is a legitimate excuse, as the FMCSA rules state that you cannot drive while sick. I assume that he called it in to the company with plenty of notice?

Rev...I guess you have been an O/O to long. What sort of lead time do you require for calling in sick.

[ELGAUL]

i don't know how long you have been driving,but surely you have been out long enough to realize sometimes you have to do what you have to do to get the ld delivered.the way you make it sound you were at the delivery and just sitting in the parking lot waiting to pick up hours to bump the dock.if that is the case,and i don't know if it is,i would have fired you to.this is trucking!

[Rev.Vassago]

Rev...I guess you have been an O/O to long. What sort of lead time do you require for calling in sick.

It all depends upon when the driver got sick. If they were halfway through a 2000 mile trip when they called in sick, then the company had plenty of notice that the load would be late. If they called in 50 miles from destination, then I can see why the company would be pizzed off.

[tbogle05]

Sorry but It sounds like someone cant take responsibility for there actions. Being sick? i have only had to call into work sick once since 2002 and the company completely understood. Ive drove with a temp at 102 and puking every couple hours but my load got there on time. You either wanna do this job or you dont. Sometimes you just gotta push and get the job done. sounds like someone is a whiner.

As far as "stranding you", they didnt strand you they just didnt give you a bus ticket. You expect them to spend more money on you when they may have already had to spend quite a bit compensating for late loads. If I owned a company and your hubby worked for me I would have fired his a!! after the second late in 6 months.

This is truck drivin' not *****footin. go drive a desk.
sorry for the harsh words but theres no room for whining. :x

[yoopr]

Rev...I guess you have been an O/O to long. What sort of lead time do you require for calling in sick.

It all depends upon when the driver got sick. If they were halfway through a 2000 mile trip when they called in sick, then the company had plenty of notice that the load would be late. If they called in 50 miles from destination, then I can see why the company would be pizzed off.

C'mon Rev-Get real
you're Waaaaaaaaaaay off on this one

[larryh31]

You should have bumped that dock. To a driver it may seem like it's just one load being late. But, to the company, you are jeopardizing a contract that is worth thousands or maybe even millions of dollars per year. :shock:

[jnk2001]

I have to agree with the rev here. It sounds like it's a time management issue and some just aren't cut out to be truck drivers. you know, once is a reason twice is a trend.

Sorry but It sounds like someone cant take responsibility for there actions. Being sick? i have only had to call into work sick once since 2002 and the company completely understood. Ive drove with a temp at 102 and puking every couple hours but my load got there on time. You either wanna do this job or you dont.

Well, aren't you special. To bad we all can't be a superman like you.

[tbogle05]

Well, aren't you special. To bad we all can't be a superman like you. [/quote]

Im not superman I just do my job.

As an EX-driver for FLORILLI I feel I can offer something here. This is STANDARD Procedure at this company more than one time I was given a load late on PU time and still was told GET IT TO THE CUSTOMER ON TIME OR YOU WILL BE HIT WITH THE SERVICE FAILURE. The owner of the company I know the man well cares more about 2 things his nose candy and sleeping with the payroll girls than his drivers.

I drove for this company from July of 1997 to November of 1998 and got tired of being told either run illegal or no miles. When TEAMS are running 2 logbooks trying to keep hours because the company can not keep drivers in the solo trucks there is a problem. My father and I the month of December of 1997 did not see East of Cheyene WY till we came home to BURY my Grandmother. We would get to Sapps there and would be told relay this load and if possible be back in Ontario CA the next morning or Stockton the next morning the worst one was be in Seatle by midnight.

The President of Ops the only reason he got that job is he married the owners stepdaughter. He was my fleet manager at the end and did not even know that there were 2 Portlands in the USA. So take it from someone who drove for this company they have a severe leadership problem from the top down. On the owner of the company on the payroll girls I personally walked into the office one day and caught him in the act pumping away at the head payroll girl at the time. His other issue when you see it on the desk in plain site that was when I left.