Just when I actually trusted Werner (long!)

[piaa_nissan]

Well I decided to go back to wiener because they offered me a dedicated route, .34 CPM, etc, etc. Well I was told I had to go through orientation again which was no big deal. What they failed to tell me is since it's been a month since I left Knight I was going to have to go out with a trainer for 40 hours to make sure my "winter driving was ok" This is after having driven for them for six months and then another 3 through a werner owner/op last winter in addition to nine months at Knight. I told them what they could do with their "co driver" idea and left orientation. Luckily I took my vehicle planning on having my wife dropping me off the last day with my gear. A note to anyone considering them as a trainee- one new hire there was told they pay $350 for training out the gate and 35.7 CPM after training which is a flat out lie. I took their falsehoods and omissions of the facts when I was a trainee but having time under my belt they just did me a favor. I told them why should I team with someone who's only claim to training is they want the extra dough and have driven for six months. What a joke and a waste of time, if Knight Portland would've dispatched me anywhere besides L.A. I would've just stayed there. This is not to disparage the few good trainers with years of experience who are still with weiner (there are a few) I'm just venting on how they can lie knowing odds are a driver will try to stick it out or take the abuse. >RANT OFF

[belpre122]

Well I decided to go back to wiener because they offered me a dedicated route, .34 CPM, etc, etc. Well I was told I had to go through orientation again which was no big deal. What they failed to tell me is since it's been a month since I left Knight I was going to have to go out with a trainer for 40 hours to make sure my "winter driving was ok" This is after having driven for them for six months and then another 3 through a werner owner/op last winter in addition to nine months at Knight. I told them what they could do with their "co driver" idea and left orientation. Luckily I took my vehicle planning on having my wife dropping me off the last day with my gear. A note to anyone considering them as a trainee- one new hire there was told they pay $350 for training out the gate and 35.7 CPM after training which is a flat out lie. I took their falsehoods and omissions of the facts when I was a trainee but having time under my belt they just did me a favor. I told them why should I team with someone who's only claim to training is they want the extra dough and have driven for six months. What a joke and a waste of time, if Knight Portland would've dispatched me anywhere besides L.A. I would've just stayed there. This is not to disparage the few good trainers with years of experience who are still with weiner (there are a few) I'm just venting on how they can lie knowing odds are a driver will try to stick it out or take the abuse. >RANT OFF

So what was the HUGE issue with spending 40 hours with a trainer? Ok, OK, I get it. I definitely see why Werner is so very very wrong with wanting you to spend 40 Hours (paid?) with a trainer to evaluate whether you could safely operate their equipment in winter conditions. Bad, bad Werner! Werner! You should have just turned him loose with limited experience instead of trying to help/evalute him(her) first! Werner, I can not believe that you would be so brash, as to want to know if a driver could handle 80,000 LBS on a slick Wyoming mountain. Shame on you Werner!

Now to Knight. Knight, I can not believe that you would actually have the nerve to dispatch to Los Angeles, Ca! Who would have thought that a transportation company would actually have an interest in the Los Angeles freight industry? Knight, did you not know that this driver was different and didn't enjoy LA traffic etc?

Werner and Knight, you are both officially being punished for trying transform this whiner in to a driver. I know that you both had the best of motives. But he just doesn't get it. Not at all.

one new hire there was told they pay $350 for training out the gate and 35.7 CPM after training which is a flat out lie.

Did this new hire also tell you about last night's date with Pam Anderson? His latest Powerball jackpot?

This is not to disparage the few good trainers with years of experience who are still with weiner (there are a few)

I don't think that it DID disparage the Werner trainers that operate as professionals. However, a look in the mirrow may be revealing...........
Oh yeah.......rant OFF :shock:

[piaa_nissan]

Thanks Richard, you can go live with a slob of a trainer for a week if your so in love with Werner, enjoy!

[piaa_nissan]

Oh BTW I guess in order to qualify as a big dog I need five years of driving right? I don't call driving two winters in the cascades and siskyous much of a big deal, Knight was more than happy with my driving and as far as the I-5 corridor you obviously have never driven it a couple hundred times. If you have you would know it gets real old real fast. But hey i don't know anything because I'm not the big dog

[belpre122]

Thanks Richard, you can go live with a slob of a trainer for a week if your so in love with Werner, enjoy!

Oh BTW I guess in order to qualify as a big dog I need five years of driving right? I don't call driving two winters in the cascades and siskyous much of a big deal, Knight was more than happy with my driving and as far as the I-5 corridor you obviously have never driven it a couple hundred times. If you have you would know it gets real old real fast. But hey i don't know anything because I'm not the big dog!

Ummm..Gary here. Not Richard.

And yes SuperTrucker (I'm referring to you piaa_nissan), I think that I could endure living with a slob for a week if it meant caring for my family................Rather than attempting to nurse my damaged ego. Regarding my love for Werner. My only knowledge of Werner is that their trucks are blue. Although......................

....................My knowledge of people. Unfortunately. That are like you, (professional victims), is unfortunately boundless. Your mantras, including, "sucks to be me," "they're all out to get me," "I'm never getting paid enough," are much repeated, screamed, and cried claims made by persons with the same sense of entitlement that you have. While this may be an easy route to slide through life in many areas of work. IT SIMPLY DOES NOT WORK IN THE TRUCKING INDUSTRY.

Pay your dues. Stop complaining. Is my advice.

If you are not willing to keep your ego in check. No problem. I wish you the best of McLuck on your next McJob interview. I only hope that they don't require 40 hours training................................

[piaa_nissan]

If you like someone lying to you I guess you'd be right at home and not angered at all. I for one like people to treat me like I treat them, honestly and to take responsibility for their actions. I guess that does make me a whiner. If you've never been through werners training program I suggest you give it a try, until you have you cannot make a judgment call on the way they treat drivers- like so much gum on your shoe. No one owes me anything, I can always fall back working as a broadband technician, my ten years working for AT&T count for something. I'm sure you've had days you've had to vent before, if you haven't I guess that would make you the Mega Super Trucker!

[belpre122]

If you like someone lying to you I guess you'd be right at home and not angered at all. I for one like people to treat me like I treat them, honestly and to take responsibility for their actions. I guess that does make me a whiner. If you've never been through werners training program I suggest you give it a try, until you have you cannot make a judgment call on the way they treat drivers- like so much gum on your shoe. No one owes me anything, I can always fall back working as a broadband technician, my ten years working for AT&T count for something. I'm sure you've had days you've had to vent before, if you haven't I guess that would make you the Mega Super Trucker!

No, I haven't had the pleasure of the Werner training program. But, I am a graduate of the CRST training program. (Should speak for itself)

You have, however, made an interesting point with the AT&T reference. It has taken AT&T (23?) years to shake off all of their previous mistakes and only now, are they returning to prosperity. (Don't bore me with tales of the federally mandated breakup, I know about all of that). I have to wonder how much of this had to do with the complacency of the CWA? How does it go? Once bitten, twice shy? Is AT&T beating down the doors of former broadband (promoted comm techs) to come back again? For your sake, I hope so. I really do. If you have gone into the trucking industry thinking that you will be treated similar to the electronics/communications world.................your head must have been in a splice case

[Smooth]

Why isn't this now pointless thread locked ?

PM each other with your little 7th grade debate .

[mikey4069]

18 months exp if my math is right ? Just forget about warner and make some calls and find another company . 8)

[piaa_nissan]

For the record IMHO the CWA was and still is a piece of garbage. Driving and telecommunications are definitely two different critters. I think at this point I'll leave this as-is, I reacted to your comments very quickly and vicious because of my anger at the day. Your point is taken but I hope your judgment will not be as quick not knowing someones whole background. One rant does not make a person. Enjoy your evening and I apologize for any offense given.

[piaa_nissan]

18 months exp if my math is right ? Just forget about warner and make some calls and find another company . 8)

I was drawn to the fact that the dedicated account is 4 miles from my house which was a good compromise for my family. At this point I plan on looking into a flatbed company. I don't mind the training I'll need to get the new skills and I could use the exercise. I'm looking into Davis or TMC after the posts here. I haven't heard much about Central Oregon truck..

[Kintama]

LA's a cake walk if you time it right.

[jnk2001]

18 months exp if my math is right ? Just forget about warner and make some calls and find another company . 8)

I was drawn to the fact that the dedicated account is 4 miles from my house which was a good compromise for my family. At this point I plan on looking into a flatbed company. I don't mind the training I'll need to get the new skills and I could use the exercise. I'm looking into Davis or TMC after the posts here. I haven't heard much about Central Oregon truck..

Sherman bros is good too!

[belpre122]

Why isn't this now pointless thread locked ?

PM each other with your little 7th grade debate .

Smooth. It may seem so to you. And probably is/was. Why the need to jump in and make the statement? Just skip over it. We weren't (to my knowledge) interfering with anything that you were doing.

[piaa_nissan]

I hadn't thought about Sherman bros, there not too far away from here. I'll check them out. Thank you

[Cluggy619]

Why isn't this now pointless thread locked ?

PM each other with your little 7th grade debate .

Smooth. It may seem so to you. And probably is/was. Why the need to jump in and make the statement? Just skip over it. We weren't (to my knowledge) interfering with anything that you were doing.


Why the need to jump in and make the statement?

LMAO.....that's rich, coming from you. I guess we can forget about you jumping in with your statements as well, shall we?

I read a little bit on your posts on this board....you seem quite happy making comments on those venting about a company they have work for... not that you did, but that doesn't stop you from bagging on the poster.

My favorite line is "pay your dues...." hehehe

So tell us all how we should complete "paying those dues off", since your such a expert.

[mikey4069]

[Scoe]

Share information not insults.

[belpre122]

Why isn't this now pointless thread locked ?

PM each other with your little 7th grade debate .

Smooth. It may seem so to you. And probably is/was. Why the need to jump in and make the statement? Just skip over it. We weren't (to my knowledge) interfering with anything that you were doing.


Why the need to jump in and make the statement?

LMAO.....that's rich, coming from you. I guess we can forget about you jumping in with your statements as well, shall we?

I read a little bit on your posts on this board....you seem quite happy making comments on those venting about a company they have work for... not that you did, but that doesn't stop you from bagging on the poster.

My favorite line is "pay your dues...." hehehe

So tell us all how we should complete "paying those dues off", since your such a expert.

Yes I guess that it is rather rich coming from me. My comments are more slanted towards the often repeated "rants" that people seem to jump on here and make.......then often, they too realize that they have maybe gone a bit too far. I am simply trying to make them see how they may in fact have played "just a little" in to their own failure.

I have never purported myself to be an expert. Just a driver who has seen other new drivers come on to this board with the same "issues," who seem to never stop to do a little of their own soul searching before throwing in the towel and giving up the career. Regarding "paying those dues off."? I would suggest that someone who has found themselves behind the eight ball, so to speak, might consider taking a look at the big picture, and study ALL of the factors that have gotten them into an unbearable/uncomfortable situation.

Addressing the the brunt of your post Cluggy619, I have to admit I think that I see where you are coming from. What started out as trying to share some of what I had been put through while trying to start my driving career has gone in the wrong direction. My noted increase in sarcasm/all knowing type posts is, indeed, disturbing and unintended. I thank you for bringing it my attention. Point well made.

[piaa_nissan]

I drove down to Sherman Bros today and was very impressed with their operation, thanks for the advice it never dawned on me to check there. I start the 5th.