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Thread: SWIFT Is Another Word For Liar

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    Quote Originally Posted by belpre122
    Not to rush to judgement, but I have to wonder what happened at Schneider?
    Most likely, an incorrect choice of words:

    He said that he WORKED for Schneider and then Swift;

    IMO, it should probably read that he was EMPLOYED by Schneider, and then Swift.


    Doesn't sound like he WORKED for either one of them!!
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    I have to agree. I have never been one to pass judgement, but Im seeing this more and more on CAD. As I mentioned above, look at the money, drug tests($80), training pay(300/wk), paying a trainer more to pull the same loads, life insurance, BOND, extra insurance needed for a trainers truck(yes it does cost more since they are not actually an employee) not to mention all the administration costs involved to start direct deposit, health insurance, etc, etc.

    If a company goes to the point of week 4, they are prepared to hire you. That company already has a signifigant investment in you.

    These stories as mentioned above, always have more than being told. ALWAYS. If it was a simple boo boo, youd spend more time with a trainer. We all agree SWIFT is turning over drivers, but they are also a very good company in the fact that they are giving many the opportunity that might not have one elsewhere.

    I am not sticking up for any company, but Im willing to bet, a good portion of the horrer stories are either self inflicted, are BIG TRUCK DRIVERS that know it all, or are problems that could have been taken care of through communication, Communication, COMMUNICATION.

    I have a cousin who started with them after he got his CDL, after some time with a trainer, he went out with another rookie with similar experience. She couldnt even go into the highside of the gears...never done it.

    Im not here to 100% support SWIFT, but for a company with almost 18000 power units, dont you think that you are gonna hear more stories than a company that has 100 power units. I would hate to see someone such as Timerider's DAC report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csramsey640
    I have to agree. I have never been one to pass judgement, but Im seeing this more and more on CAD. As I mentioned above, look at the money, drug tests($80), training pay(300/wk), paying a trainer more to pull the same loads, life insurance, BOND, extra insurance needed for a trainers truck(yes it does cost more since they are not actually an employee) not to mention all the administration costs involved to start direct deposit, health insurance, etc, etc.

    If a company goes to the point of week 4, they are prepared to hire you. That company already has a signifigant investment in you.

    These stories as mentioned above, always have more than being told. ALWAYS. If it was a simple boo boo, youd spend more time with a trainer. We all agree SWIFT is turning over drivers, but they are also a very good company in the fact that they are giving many the opportunity that might not have one elsewhere.

    I am not sticking up for any company, but Im willing to bet, a good portion of the horrer stories are either self inflicted, are BIG TRUCK DRIVERS that know it all, or are problems that could have been taken care of through communication, Communication, COMMUNICATION.

    I have a cousin who started with them after he got his CDL, after some time with a trainer, he went out with another rookie with similar experience. She couldnt even go into the highside of the gears...never done it.

    Im not here to 100% support SWIFT, but for a company with almost 18000 power units, dont you think that you are gonna hear more stories than a company that has 100 power units. I would hate to see someone such as Timerider's DAC report.
    Well, aren't we glad swift was sent from the heavens to help all the new ppl try to get a job in the trucking industry....NOT.. altho they do provide experience for ppl who don't have experience, they don't do it from the graciousness of their hearts..

    They actually get money from the government for training ppl. they even get more if someone has a handicap.
    It's fun living in the gray areas of a black and white world!

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    Quote Originally Posted by csramsey640
    I would hate to see someone such as Timerider's DAC report.
    Aw, heck!!! I'd pay a few bucks to see it; I can always use a good laugh!!!

    Hey, ClockRider3:15!!

    Here's a suggestion for you!! Go to Chicago and hook up with a dude named " Happy2BHappy"; He can be found on the "Rules & Regs." Forum;

    Just look for the thread "A 2nd Chance From Weed"
    Bet he can help you!!
    :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnk2001
    They actually get money from the government for training ppl. they even get more if someone has a handicap.
    That goes for ANY company... trucking or not.

    Me being 1. Injured on the job, I can't return to my line of work ( which I loved and did for almost 30 years ) so the state pays to retrain me. I paid all my taxes, L&I , ect. So whats wrong the the government helping someone get retrained? Companies get a tax break for hiring people like me for 1 to 2 years, when normally they wouldn't hire someone like me. This in itself gives people like me ( who want to work and not be a sponge on taxpayers ) a chance at a new life.

    Got a problem with it? get over it, you could be next and you'll be glad this program is around to help.

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    Well, aren't we glad swift was sent from the heavens to help all the new ppl try to get a job in the trucking industry....NOT.. altho they do provide experience for ppl who don't have experience, they don't do it from the graciousness of their hearts..

    They actually get money from the government for training ppl. they even get more if someone has a handicap


    I can't honestly say that I think that (in my case) CRST came from anywhere resembling Heaven. But I was very very thankful that when I found myself without a job, along with an interest in a driving career, CRST took me in, trained me, put my arse in the pilot's seat of one of THEIR trucks, and let me dictate my own success/failure based on my own efforts. If CRST received some government funding on my behalf. Then thank you CRST AND Uncle Sam. I think that all three of us came out ahead. CRST had a motivated driver for 7 months. Uncle Sam helped get me back to paying taxes to him. Lastly, I was rewarded with a good paying, solid career that I enjoy even more than I could have hoped for.

    The Swifts and CRSTs of the industry never claim that they are in it for anything but the money. Isn't that why anybody goes in to business?
    The training companies serve their purpose. My time on contract to CRST brings back memories of Army basic training. It served the purpose and I moved on.

    I'm sure that CRST was not working, as you put it "from the graciousness of their heart." I wasn't looking for a church, I was looking for a career.

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    Wow you come on this board to get help and then you get slammed, I worked for schneider for a year and left because of a family emergency and because I was not driving for more than a year after I left I was required by Swift to train all over again, now the only reason I chose Swift was because of the convenience of the location being 30 miles from my home.

    And about my DAC there is nothing wrong with it.
    The problem may have been with my mentor who was a guy with an anger problem but as to the fact that that may or may not be the problem im looking into that.

    If you people think that swift is not a bad company then you need to listen to the CB reports as to what others have to say about them'

    And Useless it must be nice to be you since you seem to think your so perfect but with a name like useless that says it all and you have the nerve to ask me to change my name. LOL but your a funny guy though.

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    Timerider......Please just take a moment to reread and review your original post as if it were written by someone else. Can you at least (maybe just a little bit) see how your post could be viewed more as a disgruntled person wanting to vent their frustration, rather than someone looking for help. If your original post included a little more information, such as some that you have just provided, and a little less about SOBs, etc. Perhaps the help squad would have arrived in force. Instead you unfortunately painted yourself in to a corner. I hope that you don't belong in that corner. I again urge you to objectively read your original post and make an honest judgement regarding how you would expect to be perceived based on that post.

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    As belpre said, you came on here cussing and throwing around accusations. What did you expect to happen? Your original post was nearly unreadable for the run on sentences and lack of formatting.

    If you people think that swift is not a bad company then you need to listen to the CB reports as to what others have to say about them'
    Do you believe everything you hear on the CB? I honestly hope not. Without detailed knowledge of this situation, there's no way any of us can tell if you were wronged, or if you're just looking for a place to vent.

    I myself worked for Swift for quite a while, got my license through them, got trained by them, and turned a good number of miles until I decided to make a leap to a company more suited to what I wanted to do. There are hundreds, and probably thousands of Swift drivers that are satisfied with the company. They have their own set of Million Milers, and some not far behind. A trucking company will only give to you what you are willing to work for, no matter what name is written on the door.

    I wish you the best, but understand you need to change your tactics if you expect to get anything out of life, or the people here.
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    yep it sounded like a "vent" to me too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timerider315
    And Useless it must be nice to be you since you seem to think your so perfect but with a name like useless that says it all and you have the nerve to ask me to change my name. LOL but your a funny guy though.
    Useless:

    As for me??? Yes, life is good!! I'm not the one on the outside looking in; you are!!


    Cramsey640:

    Wow, that is harsh!!


    It may seem a bit harsh, but it is the truth. Clockrider3:15 is wanting to hurl an insult at me, but the fact is that it is a pointless venture for him to do so. The fact is that I am blessed with a life that does work very well; not perfect, nor do I expect it to be.

    At the same time, those who go through life blaming others for their failures tend to be the same ones who are left on the outside, looking in, and blaming everybody but themselves for their problems and failures. Harsh though the realities may be, no one like Clockrider3:15 is ever going to find success in life unless he is willing to take a good, long, hard look at himself, and realize that if his situation in life is going to get any better, then he has to get off of his ass, be honest with himself, and work to make it happen.

    Since he is clearly unwilling to do that, he's now reduced to hurling meaningless insults at me. All I'm doing is responding with a harsh dose of reality. People like Clockrider3:15 tend to be met with whatever attitudes they bring to the table; then they want to cry foul when it happens!!

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    "As for me??? Yes, life is good!! I'm not the one on the outside looking in; you are!!"


    Thats harsh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by csramsey640
    "As for me??? Yes, life is good!! I'm not the one on the outside looking in; you are!!"


    Thats harsh...
    Looks like I goofed in wanting to reply to your post, CRAMSEY640!!

    Clockrider claimed that there is nothing wrong with his DAC report.

    In any event, clockrider:315 has worked for Schneider and Swift, is apparantly not welcome back at either company, and is now having difficulty finding employment.

    Yet, there is NOTHING wrong with his DAC report; something here does not add up!!

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    I gotta chime in here.

    Swift is not the problem here. I was released to go solo after 4 weeks on the truck. My test consisted of going out to the truck, pretripping it, and then going out to a stop sign. I was passed. By all rights I should have been on a truck for another week, and also had complete training, but the Terminal Manager that was testing me cared more about profit then saftey.

    My pops went through training, got on his mentors truck, and asked near the end to get another mentor as he was getting fed up with the way that he was being treated.

    He was fired, citing he allegidly ran 2 cars off the road and slammed into the side of a building with his trailer. Problem being, I know how he drives, and I know how much of a jerk his mentor was.

    Point of this is this. You have to look from Terminal Management down. There are some good terminals, and there are some bad terminals. You will get treated differently by different terminals, mentors, and management staff.

    Swift is not as bad of a company as some think. It is like any other trucking company in the world. You have to work things to get what you need. Go on with life, find a company that will take you on as a post-graduate and just run your butt off.

    If you are a safe driver, on-time (conditions being favorable), and you don't do anything to piss of the company you work for (besides the occasional butting heads), then you will be fine!

    I am by no means perfect, and I pushed my DM and the shop to fix both the trucks I was in, and after 11 months of it, I was done! Time to move on, and find something better!
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    I'll say this definately was an interesting read! Useless still has it!
    LMAO :wink:
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    Useless....dont take that the wrong way there was some laughter in my saying that was harsh. I got quite a chuckle out of it.

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