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    Default Cargill dedicated account with Jb Hunt

    ok guys im currently with Knight transportation which I think is ok, and im being swayed to go with jb hunt to drive their dedicated Cargill account. anyone have any info.... and Sheepdancer is my recruiter.. so im asking if any drivers have info on this dedicated route.

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    Hey Cranky,

    What happened at May Trucking? Please share so newbies will know why you left them!

    Goin Fer It's Wife

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    Quote Originally Posted by crankyazz
    ok guys im currently with Knight transportation which I think is ok, and im being swayed to go with jb hunt to drive their dedicated Cargill account. anyone have any info.... and Sheepdancer is my recruiter.. so im asking if any drivers have info on this dedicated route.
    Let me get this out of the way.

    I don't have anything nice to say about JB Hunt or Sheepdancer.

    With that in mind, I wish you the best of luck in your transferr. Just be sure that you are going to get what you want before you quit Knight. And be sure that it's what YOU want to do to better your carreer. Don't be swayed, be certain. Try to get it in Writing if you can.

    Please keep posting here, and keep us informed on what is going on.
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    awww cluggy....you dont have anything nice to say about me?
    I feel so special that you have made your litte anti-jb hunt rant personal and now its even about me. Keep up the good work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cluggy619
    Quote Originally Posted by crankyazz
    ok guys im currently with Knight transportation which I think is ok, and im being swayed to go with jb hunt to drive their dedicated Cargill account. anyone have any info.... and Sheepdancer is my recruiter.. so im asking if any drivers have info on this dedicated route.
    Let me get this out of the way.

    I don't have anything nice to say about JB Hunt or Sheepdancer.

    With that in mind, I wish you the best of luck in your transferr. Just be sure that you are going to get what you want before you quit Knight. And be sure that it's what YOU want to do to better your carreer. Don't be swayed, be certain. Try to get it in Writing if you can.

    Please keep posting here, and keep us informed on what is going on.

    Cluggy619/Sheepdancer

    I don't have a dog in this fight between you two . . . but I have seen it spill over into various threads.

    Cluggy619 . . . your anti-JBH posts have apparently been deleted by the Mods. Can you summarize their content for us? What are your objections to JB Hunt? What were your personal experiences that have turned you against that company?

    I've read what Sheepdancer says and his answers sound credible and fact-based. But your objections to the company are less clear and I (for one) want to know what they are.

    I'm interested because JB Hunt recruits a lot of military and I think it's only fair to those guys that we get to the bottom of this.

    I mean, either there's a serious problem with JB Hunt, or there isn't.

    So let's find out . . . . Cluggy 619 . . . what's the problem with JB Hunt?

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    Half the problem is we have a couple of guys on here, that no matter what a recruiter says they think he is wrong and is a scum bag, doesn't matter if they have the facts to prove those people wrong, they still get personally attacked.

    Those guys have a job to do. There out there to promote the company they work for, so they are not going to say the bad things about the industry and ect.. They are offering the advantages for that particular company. Plain and simple.

    The best advice out there is to do your homework. Talking with a recruiter is only a small part, if you go into this industry just based on that your already set to fail. DO YOUR HOMEWORK. The only thing that will fail you is you!, not the recruiter, not the cdl school, or the company, you! In the end, you control your destiny, and only you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frogman

    Cluggy619/Sheepdancer

    I don't have a dog in this fight between you two . . . but I have seen it spill over into various threads.

    Cluggy619 . . . your anti-JBH posts have apparently been deleted by the Mods. Can you summarize their content for us? What are your objections to JB Hunt? What were your personal experiences that have turned you against that company?

    I've read what Sheepdancer says and his answers sound credible and fact-based. But your objections to the company are less clear and I (for one) want to know what they are.

    I'm interested because JB Hunt recruits a lot of military and I think it's only fair to those guys that we get to the bottom of this.

    I mean, either there's a serious problem with JB Hunt, or there isn't.

    So let's find out . . . . Cluggy 619 . . . what's the problem with JB Hunt?
    Let me start by saying this. I'm not saying that the mods are deleting my post. But they are disappearing. And I've been over this time and time and time again. And now, I'm going to move on. As far as what happened, lacked of promised miles, along with other major things in consideration is what caused me to leave JB. But from now on, I will not harp on what has happened. I will just say that I have nothing nice to say. And wish the driver good luck with his/her endeavor.

    As far as sheepdancer.....his view on drivers is lacking. He is grateful if he can make a buck on you. Everybody should read his posts....all of his post, and make your own decision. My decision about him has also been made clear on a number of post. But from now on, I will just state that I have nothing nice to say.

    I did as much as I'm willing to do. But I think it time to let go of the past, and move to more positive fields.
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    Besides...when drivers try to express what goes on at JB, the thread gets locked. Like this one:

    http://www.classadrivers.com/phpBB2/...=21793&start=0

    This is a interesting thread to read. You should read it.

    There are other drivers who will take it to JB. From now on, I'll sit back, and enjoy the view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cluggy619
    Besides...when drivers try to express what goes on at JB, the thread gets locked. Like this one:

    http://www.classadrivers.com/phpBB2/...=21793&start=0

    This is a interesting thread to read. You should read it.

    There are other drivers who will take it to JB. From now on, I'll sit back, and enjoy the view.

    OK, well, I read that thread and it's a little light on substance. There's a lot of personal attack going on, and there is some anecdotal evidence.

    But there's very little conclusive evidence that there's a systemic problem at JBH.

    The best "witness testimony" I read was actually something found on another thread:

    JB Hunt is by all means the bottom of the bucket ! After many many years of driving and saying how I pity the guys that work for JB and I would never go there. Guess what
    My wife wanted me home more often and I found a JB Hunt terminal less that 2 miles from my home. I put my pride in my pocket hid my face from everybody I knew and called JB.
    They promised me a DCS account w/ JC Penny salary being $850.00 weekly + 25.00 per first drop and $8.00 any additional drops Home weekends, also part of the day and all night Tuesday and Thursday. No signon pay and $50.00 a day for orientation.
    I thought this would be good for my wife and I to spend more time together. So I decided to go and try it out
    First day of orientation: treated like a 2 yr old child along with the 60+ others. Second day of orientation WOW we get to go check out the trucks. knew they were Freight shakers. Have always been a pete driver (oh goodie) Just got out of a pete 387. (BTW I am company driver just giving you an Idea of JB's pack of lies which I am sure spreads to O/O division)
    I noticed there are a heck of a lot flattop sleepers and decide to talk to big man there. And tell him. If you are planning to put me into one of those flattops do yourself a favor and don't waste my time nor yours. He came back with promise no flattops for me. Due to I have 30 yrs exp. driving... Ok OK good
    3 days later after picking up my check for 136.00 orientation pay. I notice something wrong. Out of 60+ potential drivers in orientation. There are now 12 remaining ... Heres your sign
    Next day I am assigned a Flat top truck oh well I will prolly get condo later. But not happy camper.
    One week later WOW was out all week home finally Saturday night and had to go back out Sunday mid morning. another Lie heres your sign
    Second week. Awesome ! I get my first check this Thursday Should be good $850.00 plus $25.00 x 6 stops NOT ! I got a check for $460.00 ... Now I am pissed. Go to office and ask where my $850.00 + drop pay is ... He asks. Where did you ever get the idea you were going to get that pay ....You are getting .36 cpm..(not good with low miles) And comments. You should know better than to listen to Recruiters ,, They are like used car sales men.. Now I am so mad I could rip his head off.. heres your sign
    Come home talk to wife. Decided to give it 2 more weeks and move on if things don't change.
    After 2 weeks were up. They begged me to stay. promised new truck and different pay scale. I just laughed in their face in the JC Pennies terminal office in front of big wigs of JCP.
    Threw the truck keys on the desk, Laughed and told them to Ki$$ my *****..... Moral of the story.. Dont Waste your time. I did it for you & JB Hunt IS the bottom of the bucket




    Now . . . that's very clear anecdotal evidence. But, of what?

    It deals with one man's experience with DCS account w/ JC Penny (whatever that is).

    So is it an error on the part of the recruiters or JC Penny? Did the driver misunderstand?

    Is this reflective of JBH or just a glitch?

    I mean, it's a horror story and I feel for the driver and his spouse, but it doesn't really tell us anything about JBH.

    Here's the bottom line, to me. This is what I and other new guys need know:

    QUESTION # 1 Can anyone here provide clear evidence that JBH deliberately (or through inefficiency) routinely gives their drivers less than 2500 miles a week, on average?

    I use 2500 because that's the number that I remember reading someplace (probably came from Sheepdancer) as being the average miles driven by a JBH driver per week. Is this number wrong? (Because if it isn't, then it's right up there with what other companies say they offer.)


    QUESTION # 2 Now, if that's truly the average . . . then we can assume that some drivers are driving more than that . . . 2800, 3000, 3200, whatever.

    And some are driving less.

    We can assume that of those driving below average miles, some are doing it by choice and some are not.

    Does anyone have clear evidence that there are a substantial number of JBH drivers who want more miles but are being denied those miles?

    Cluggy619, you've offered partial anecdotal evidence that you got far fewer than 2500 miles per week.

    But why? What were the circumstances? Was it a glitch or a reflection of systemic policy on the part of JBH?

    I may be beating the horse to death.

    But I'm trying to get you old-timers to understand this from my point of view.

    My experience is that 99% of soldiers bitch. They all think whatever unit or ship they're on sucks . . . until they go to a new unit or ship and then that one sucks more.

    But even if the unit or ship does suck, it is usually an isolated case. Historically, the Army (and Navy) are generally OK, but not all units are OK. I mean, you have to go back 30-35 years (Vietnam) to find a case of wide-spread systemic sucking (failure) in the military.

    Us new guys need to understand JBH in the same way.

    Is it a case that JBH is generally OK . . . but there are occasional problems . . . or are you guys saying that there is systemic failure at JBH?

    If so . . . respectfully . . . you aren't providing the evidence for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frogman


    Now . . . that's very clear anecdotal evidence. But, of what?

    It deals with one man's experience with DCS account w/ JC Penny (whatever that is).

    So is it an error on the part of the recruiters or JC Penny? Did the driver misunderstand?

    Is this reflective of JBH or just a glitch?

    I mean, it's a horror story and I feel for the driver and his spouse, but it doesn't really tell us anything about JBH.

    Here's the bottom line, to me. This is what I and other new guys need know:

    QUESTION # 1 Can anyone here provide clear evidence that JBH deliberately (or through inefficiency) routinely gives their drivers less than 2500 miles a week, on average?

    I use 2500 because that's the number that I remember reading someplace (probably came from Sheepdancer) as being the average miles driven by a JBH driver per week. Is this number wrong? (Because if it isn't, then it's right up there with what other companies say they offer.)


    QUESTION # 2 Now, if that's truly the average . . . then we can assume that some drivers are driving more than that . . . 2800, 3000, 3200, whatever.

    And some are driving less.

    We can assume that of those driving below average miles, some are doing it by choice and some are not.

    Does anyone have clear evidence that there are a substantial number of JBH drivers who want more miles but are being denied those miles?

    Cluggy619, you've offered partial anecdotal evidence that you got far fewer than 2500 miles per week.

    But why? What were the circumstances? Was it a glitch or a reflection of systemic policy on the part of JBH?

    I may be beating the horse to death.

    But I'm trying to get you old-timers to understand this from my point of view.

    My experience is that 99% of soldiers bitch. They all think whatever unit or ship they're on sucks . . . until they go to a new unit or ship and then that one sucks more.

    But even if the unit or ship does suck, it is usually an isolated case. Historically, the Army (and Navy) are generally OK, but not all units are OK. I mean, you have to go back 30-35 years (Vietnam) to find a case of wide-spread systemic sucking (failure) in the military.

    Us new guys need to understand JBH in the same way.

    Is it a case that JBH is generally OK . . . but there are occasional problems . . . or are you guys saying that there is systemic failure at JBH?

    If so . . . respectfully . . . you aren't providing the evidence for it.
    Let me try this one more time.

    1. I was OTR. Promised 2500 to 2800 miles by the recruiter. Told that the range would be 2300 - 2500 miles at orientation.

    I got 1700 - 2300 miles. I took everything they would give me, including alot of 200-300 miles runs. I ask to double up on the smaller runs. I ask to run 7 days a week while getting smaller runs. I did everything I could to get as many miles as I could. The last week I worked, i did get 2300. Most of my pay was based around 1700-2000 miles @ .34 cpm.

    In order to work there, I gave you my local job that I was getting 37,000-42,000 per year. I did check this board. I, too, was warned by other drivers. I didn't listen, and i paid for it.

    2. I caught them shaving miles. I had to use several different mileage programs to catch, using all types of ways from practical to household, and finally, and older version of Rand McNally. And I found that the miles they were offering to pay were 10% short of what they should have been. Another-words, They would offer as payment 500 miles for a trip that my programs would say should have been around 540 - 575, depending on the method use to calculate miles. It stopped after I threaten to exposed them.

    Now, we are not talking about running miles, where the 10% variance should be. I could have put up with that. We are talking about what they offer before you move the truck. After doing some calculation on my own, I figured I was shorted around 6500 miles during my 2 months with them. Once I discovered this, I terminated my job with them. If you wish to check this out, just start using your own programs....best yet, get a copy of Rand McNelly. It's costly, though.

    Their are other things that I have put up with....rude dispatchers, unable to get a pay-stub, minor things that when you add it all up, made the job even more difficult. But these things goes with OTR driving, I guess. They were a factor, but a small one.

    With all of this being said, I'm done trying to warn drivers. Instead I will wish them the best, and hope they do better than me at JB. I will go on to start post what I'm doing at my current position, going into detail starting Jan 1st, 2007.

    Hope this was enough for you, but if not, it's all I got.
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    There you go cluggy.....thats a little bit more concise. Isnt that better than attacking me personally? Considering that I wasnt the person who recruited you? You lumping me in with ALL recruiters is like If I lumped you in with all truck driving drug users. I will be the first to tell you that yes, we have had recruiters who lied over here. Ive seen people fired for it. But for you to say that all recruiters lie is just silly. I can assure you if I was a "lying recruiter" I wouldnt still be here after all these years.
    I will still say the average miles for a OTR driver is 2500. Yes, some get more, some get less.....thats the thing about averages. Not every job is for every person. I can guarantee that ANY trucking company that you could work for, I most likely can find drivers who will complain about it and say they lied to him or her. I will also be able to find drivers who are very happy at any company. Hell, I even talk to tons of drivers who are very happy and are doing very well at Swift. I will repeat myself again...but I think it needs to be said again...THE BIGGER THE COMPANY THE MORE DRIVERS YOU WILL HEAR COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. Thats not because the company is bad....THAT IS JUST SIMPLE MATH. Also I can assure you that that company didnt become successful by doing the wrong things. I will stick by this fact....We at JB have more 1,2 and 3 million mile drivers than any other trucking company. Why would those drivers stick around that long if they were being treated wrong? I will use the example of one of our best drivers again. We have a driver who has been here 20 years. Perhaps occasionally you will see him out on the road. Nice customized freightliner. American Flag paint....Vietnam POW graphics. That driver came here 20 years ago...worked hard...did everything he could to succeed. Right now he has MILLIONS in his retirement and still going strong. Cluggy...would you tell him that he made the wrong choice of JB Hunt? We have quite a few VPs in corporate who started out with this company driving a truck? Would you tell them that they made the wrong choice of JB hunt?
    Now pay attention because this is my job as a recruiter. When I hire a driver over here. I AM GIVING THAT DRIVER AN OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME THAT NEXT 3 MILLION MILE DRIVER WITH A COUPLE OF MILLION IN HIS RETIREMENT. Whether that driver does what it takes to become that driver is up to him, not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cluggy619

    Let me try this one more time.

    1. I was OTR. Promised 2500 to 2800 miles by the recruiter. Told that the range would be 2300 - 2500 miles at orientation.

    I got 1700 - 2300 miles. I took everything they would give me, including alot of 200-300 miles runs. I ask to double up on the smaller runs. I ask to run 7 days a week while getting smaller runs. I did everything I could to get as many miles as I could. The last week I worked, i did get 2300. Most of my pay was based around 1700-2000 miles @ .34 cpm.

    In order to work there, I gave you my local job that I was getting 37,000-42,000 per year. I did check this board. I, too, was warned by other drivers. I didn't listen, and i paid for it.

    2. I caught them shaving miles. I had to use several different mileage programs to catch, using all types of ways from practical to household, and finally, and older version of Rand McNally. And I found that the miles they were offering to pay were 10% short of what they should have been. Another-words, They would offer as payment 500 miles for a trip that my programs would say should have been around 540 - 575, depending on the method use to calculate miles. It stopped after I threaten to exposed them.

    Now, we are not talking about running miles, where the 10% variance should be. I could have put up with that. We are talking about what they offer before you move the truck. After doing some calculation on my own, I figured I was shorted around 6500 miles during my 2 months with them. Once I discovered this, I terminated my job with them. If you wish to check this out, just start using your own programs....best yet, get a copy of Rand McNelly. It's costly, though.

    Their are other things that I have put up with....rude dispatchers, unable to get a pay-stub, minor things that when you add it all up, made the job even more difficult. But these things goes with OTR driving, I guess. They were a factor, but a small one.

    Cluggy619 . . . sir, thank you for taking the time to lay this out again. I'm sure it has to evoke some painful memories you'd rather forget.

    I respect your courage in presenting the facts as you remember them . . . and the time you spent re-telling the story. Many thanks!

    I look forward to see how Sheepdancer or other JBH drivers answer your post.

    This is clear, albeit anecdotal, evidence of a real problem, in my opinion. Someone, somewhere, appeared to have failed you.

    The question I now have to ask myself (as do other new drivers) is this:

    . . . Is it one man's unfortunate experience . . . or the symptom of something systemic? For that, we need more evidence . . . but this is certainly a red flag that every new driver considering JBH (or any company for that matter) needs to be aware of.

    I have a feeling that this is an industry where this kind of thing happens a lot. In fact, I'm expecting it to happen to me.

    (I always expect my main chute to fail and have to pull the reserve . . . Better to expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised. )


    What I've learned from you is that the real issue is not whether a company will deliver on 100% of its recruiter's promises . . . but if and when it doesn't . . . who can I go to to get the problem fixed . . . and will they listen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
    There you go cluggy.....thats a little bit more concise. Isnt that better than attacking me personally? Considering that I wasnt the person who recruited you? You lumping me in with ALL recruiters is like If I lumped you in with all truck driving drug users. I will be the first to tell you that yes, we have had recruiters who lied over here. Ive seen people fired for it. But for you to say that all recruiters lie is just silly. I can assure you if I was a "lying recruiter" I wouldnt still be here after all these years.
    I will still say the average miles for a OTR driver is 2500. Yes, some get more, some get less.....thats the thing about averages. Not every job is for every person. I can guarantee that ANY trucking company that you could work for, I most likely can find drivers who will complain about it and say they lied to him or her. I will also be able to find drivers who are very happy at any company. Hell, I even talk to tons of drivers who are very happy and are doing very well at Swift. I will repeat myself again...but I think it needs to be said again...THE BIGGER THE COMPANY THE MORE DRIVERS YOU WILL HEAR COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. Thats not because the company is bad....THAT IS JUST SIMPLE MATH. Also I can assure you that that company didnt become successful by doing the wrong things. I will stick by this fact....We at JB have more 1,2 and 3 million mile drivers than any other trucking company. Why would those drivers stick around that long if they were being treated wrong? I will use the example of one of our best drivers again. We have a driver who has been here 20 years. Perhaps occasionally you will see him out on the road. Nice customized freightliner. American Flag paint....Vietnam POW graphics. That driver came here 20 years ago...worked hard...did everything he could to succeed. Right now he has MILLIONS in his retirement and still going strong. Cluggy...would you tell him that he made the wrong choice of JB Hunt? We have quite a few VPs in corporate who started out with this company driving a truck? Would you tell them that they made the wrong choice of JB hunt?
    Now pay attention because this is my job as a recruiter. When I hire a driver over here. I AM GIVING THAT DRIVER AN OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME THAT NEXT 3 MILLION MILE DRIVER WITH A COUPLE OF MILLION IN HIS RETIREMENT. Whether that driver does what it takes to become that driver is up to him, not me.
    You know, as I read your post, I couldn't tell if you were talking to me, or just plainly advertising for JB Hunt. It reads like a info-mercial.

    My personal beef with you is the way you treat other drivers. You talk about a few of whom you had little to do with their success, and use their stories to call other drivers "failures" at their profession. And all of this to enhance your paycheck. Your attitude displayed in past post warrants a slam every now and again. However, someone else will have to do it. I got better things to do.

    Have a nice day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frogman
    Quote Originally Posted by Cluggy619

    Let me try this one more time.

    1. I was OTR. Promised 2500 to 2800 miles by the recruiter. Told that the range would be 2300 - 2500 miles at orientation.

    I got 1700 - 2300 miles. I took everything they would give me, including alot of 200-300 miles runs. I ask to double up on the smaller runs. I ask to run 7 days a week while getting smaller runs. I did everything I could to get as many miles as I could. The last week I worked, i did get 2300. Most of my pay was based around 1700-2000 miles @ .34 cpm.

    In order to work there, I gave you my local job that I was getting 37,000-42,000 per year. I did check this board. I, too, was warned by other drivers. I didn't listen, and i paid for it.

    2. I caught them shaving miles. I had to use several different mileage programs to catch, using all types of ways from practical to household, and finally, and older version of Rand McNally. And I found that the miles they were offering to pay were 10% short of what they should have been. Another-words, They would offer as payment 500 miles for a trip that my programs would say should have been around 540 - 575, depending on the method use to calculate miles. It stopped after I threaten to exposed them.

    Now, we are not talking about running miles, where the 10% variance should be. I could have put up with that. We are talking about what they offer before you move the truck. After doing some calculation on my own, I figured I was shorted around 6500 miles during my 2 months with them. Once I discovered this, I terminated my job with them. If you wish to check this out, just start using your own programs....best yet, get a copy of Rand McNelly. It's costly, though.

    Their are other things that I have put up with....rude dispatchers, unable to get a pay-stub, minor things that when you add it all up, made the job even more difficult. But these things goes with OTR driving, I guess. They were a factor, but a small one.

    Cluggy619 . . . sir, thank you for taking the time to lay this out again. I'm sure it has to evoke some painful memories you'd rather forget.

    I respect your courage in presenting the facts as you remember them . . . and the time you spent re-telling the story. Many thanks!

    I look forward to see how Sheepdancer or other JBH drivers answer your post.

    This is clear, albeit anecdotal, evidence of a real problem, in my opinion. Someone, somewhere, appeared to have failed you.

    The question I now have to ask myself (as do other new drivers) is this:

    . . . Is it one man's unfortunate experience . . . or the symptom of something systemic? For that, we need more evidence . . . but this is certainly a red flag that every new driver considering JBH (or any company for that matter) needs to be aware of.

    I have a feeling that this is an industry where this kind of thing happens a lot. In fact, I'm expecting it to happen to me.

    (I always expect my main chute to fail and have to pull the reserve . . . Better to expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised. )


    What I've learned from you is that the real issue is not whether a company will deliver on 100% of its recruiter's promises . . . but if and when it doesn't . . . who can I go to to get the problem fixed . . . and will they listen?
    Well, I want to wish you the best. And keep posting on YOUR experience whichever way you go.

    Good luck.
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    SHEEPDANCER IS RIGHT. THE LARGER THE COMPANY THE MORE PEOPLE THAT BITCH. THIS IS JUST NORMAL PERCENTAGES. I WORK AT JB HUNT AND HAVE BEEN DRIVING FOR 15 YEARS AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY ARE THE MOST COMPLETE COMPANY I HAVE WORKED FOR. BENEFITS ARE BEST IN THE INDUSTRY PERIOD. I WILL RETIRE FROM JB HUNT AND AT RETIREMENT BECOME A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE BECAUSE OF THEIR 401K. HEALTH INSURANCE IS TOP NOTCH. I WORK FOR THEIR DEDICATED PPG ACCOUNT AND COULD NOT BE HAPPIER. THE REASON THAT SOME MANY PEOPLE LEAVE ORIENTATION IS NOT BECAUSE THEY DO NOT LIKE THE COMPANY, BUT BECAUSE THEY CANNOT PASS THE PHYSICAL DRUG TEST, AND THE COMPLETE BACKROUND CHECK THEY DO ON EACH DRIVER. THE ONES YOU HEAR BITCHING ABOUT MILES ARE THE ONES YOU SEE IN THE TRUCK STOPS CONSTANTLY BITCHING. IF THEY WOULD DRIVE INSTEAD OF SITTING IN TRUCK STOPS ALL DAY THERE MILES WOULD BE FINE.
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    Just my experience but here goes. I worked for JB Hunt as company driver and was never promised the moon but everything I was told was correct. I ran the southwest 6 out of Phoenix with a cab over argosy which I requested. I never sat waiting for a load and was always home on time.

    When I became an O/O for JB Hunt. I was always loaded and had a load waiting for me at the end. My runs were anywhere from 500 to 700 miles with 95% drop and hook. When I called into my fleet manager/dispatcher i was called by my first name and was taken care of. He would even call me once a day to see how I was doing if he did not hear from me.

    is this typical of trucking companies probably not. is this typical for every driver working for any big company probably not. But it is what you make it. Communication with you dispatcher is the key.

    If you are promised something that sounds unbelievable check it out by talking to the drivers working for that company or that dedicated account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neverbeenlate
    SHEEPDANCER IS RIGHT. THE LARGER THE COMPANY THE MORE PEOPLE THAT BITCH. THIS IS JUST NORMAL PERCENTAGES. I WORK AT JB HUNT AND HAVE BEEN DRIVING FOR 15 YEARS AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY ARE THE MOST COMPLETE COMPANY I HAVE WORKED FOR. BENEFITS ARE BEST IN THE INDUSTRY PERIOD. I WILL RETIRE FROM JB HUNT AND AT RETIREMENT BECOME A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE BECAUSE OF THEIR 401K. HEALTH INSURANCE IS TOP NOTCH. I WORK FOR THEIR DEDICATED PPG ACCOUNT AND COULD NOT BE HAPPIER. THE REASON THAT SOME MANY PEOPLE LEAVE ORIENTATION IS NOT BECAUSE THEY DO NOT LIKE THE COMPANY, BUT BECAUSE THEY CANNOT PASS THE PHYSICAL DRUG TEST, AND THE COMPLETE BACKROUND CHECK THEY DO ON EACH DRIVER. THE ONES YOU HEAR BITCHING ABOUT MILES ARE THE ONES YOU SEE IN THE TRUCK STOPS CONSTANTLY BITCHING. IF THEY WOULD DRIVE INSTEAD OF SITTING IN TRUCK STOPS ALL DAY THERE MILES WOULD BE FINE.
    Hehehe...I can't tell if you are serious or not. I guess if you yell it loud enough, you think people will here you. All caps, weather in chat or on this board, is considered yelling. And some people consider yelling rude.

    However, glad you are doing well at JB. Wish you the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neverbeenlate
    I WORK AT JB HUNT AND HAVE BEEN DRIVING FOR 15 YEARS AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY ARE THE MOST COMPLETE COMPANY I HAVE WORKED FOR. .
    How come in another post this day you say you was driving for 18 years? Did you forget how long you have been on the road?? Hmmmmmm
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    Sorry about the CAPS did not mean to annoy anyone. Trucking is much easier than most drivers make it. All companies have good features and features that you may not agree with. The key is to do your research before you jump from company to company and pick a company the has features that you value. For some it is hometime, others it is something else. Do not look just at cpm. All the pay in the world will not make up for not getting home,poor equipment ect.. Find a company that you can work with and stick with it. JB has unlimited opportunities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neverbeenlate
    SHEEPDANCER IS RIGHT. THE LARGER THE COMPANY THE MORE PEOPLE THAT BITCH. THIS IS JUST NORMAL PERCENTAGES. I WORK AT JB HUNT AND HAVE BEEN DRIVING FOR 15 YEARS AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY ARE THE MOST COMPLETE COMPANY I HAVE WORKED FOR. BENEFITS ARE BEST IN THE INDUSTRY PERIOD. I WILL RETIRE FROM JB HUNT AND AT RETIREMENT BECOME A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE BECAUSE OF THEIR 401K. HEALTH INSURANCE IS TOP NOTCH. I WORK FOR THEIR DEDICATED PPG ACCOUNT AND COULD NOT BE HAPPIER. THE REASON THAT SOME MANY PEOPLE LEAVE ORIENTATION IS NOT BECAUSE THEY DO NOT LIKE THE COMPANY, BUT BECAUSE THEY CANNOT PASS THE PHYSICAL DRUG TEST, AND THE COMPLETE BACKROUND CHECK THEY DO ON EACH DRIVER. THE ONES YOU HEAR BITCHING ABOUT MILES ARE THE ONES YOU SEE IN THE TRUCK STOPS CONSTANTLY BITCHING. IF THEY WOULD DRIVE INSTEAD OF SITTING IN TRUCK STOPS ALL DAY THERE MILES WOULD BE FINE.
    Benefits are best in the industry ? Really ? News to me .

    Pension ? No
    401k ? Yes
    Personal Days ? No
    Sick Days ? No
    Paid Vacation ? Yes
    Up to 6 weeks vacation ? No
    No weekly cost Medical/Dental for single or family ? No
    Paid Holidays ? Yes

    Where I work it's a yes to all . Is JB a good company ? Yes . Are they the best ? No . and do they have the best benefits ? No

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