Heartland Express

[doboy]

I would not recommend them. I was told by a fleet manager supervisor they do not care about the drivers. At their rate of pay drivers could be replaced without any problems. I guess they would rather keep bringing new drivers in until the new drivers get tired of the stupid games.
You arrive at a place to get unloaded after getting a good night's sleep and get unloaded or drop your trailer. They have loads in the area, but they want you to wait until that night (7 or 8 pm) to pick up a load to deliver by 6 am. Then they want you to pick up at 10 to drive 200 miles and deliver the next morning.
I got tired of running on the national account and only running 300-400 miles a day and most of it in the NE.
You had to go above your fleet manager's head to get detention which they call Heartland Care's. They do inspect the trucks and trailers every time you pull into their yards during the day which is good but can hold you up a few hours if you have something minor wrong. You have to fuel at their yards and a few select pilots ( max 75 gallons)
I asked about the wait time between loads before I signed on with them and was told it was very little which is not true. If I would of known how much time you spent sitting, I would of never gone to heartburn express.

[samiam]

I was a regional heartland driver out of Columbus OH. I was just about at top pay with 6 years OTR experience. I am now a proud roadway express driver. I left heartland a year ago. I averaged about between 800-1100 a week, I guess you have to be a brown noser to get 80k a year. I average about 1000-1200 at roadway at their lowest pay (75% of base rate). I believe you have to have 7 years to top out at Heartland but only 2 years at Roadway. Here's the crap they don't tell you. No Holiday pay. No oreintation pay. Based on my odometer I figue I was losing between 30-60 miles of pay per trip. Sitting an hour to two hours in a safety lane to get inspected each time you enter a terminal and not getting paid. $62 a week for health insurance (maybe higher by now), that is more than union dues for a month which includes insurance and the pension. You had to fuel at terminals which sometimes took you off route- not paid for those miles of course. Not having a shower for a couple of days because I wasn't close to a terminal unless I wanted to spend $7 a day at a truck stop since we fueled only at a few pilots. When I first started they were generous with their Heartland Cares pay giving $50 if I waited more than 4 hours at a warehouse. Then it ended after about 2 weeks. When I was working we hauled Sears appliance loads (multiple stops sometimes), whirlpool, kellogs, Jiff, Smuckers, Auto Freight, and a lot of Grocery warehouse loads which means long waits. Yes mostly NE freight and Chicago, but same is true with Roadway. I say the loads average 20000 to 30000 lbs so they were light. Average length of haul between 300-500 miles. Average 2000 miles a week. I was off every weekend usually home Friday nights and went out Sunday night. On a positive note my dispatcher was good, I usually had a load waiting for me before I got unloaded. I say about 50% drop and hook. My worst day was when they made me pick up a couple of loads for other drivers in Wisconsin and then I needed to be in Memphis the next morning. I started at noon by the time I picked up the loads and it was 9 pm at night before I left for Memphis- only time I ran illegal for Heartland. I'm glad I made the switch to Roadway. It feels good now I getting paid for all the work I do like all other occupations except OTR drivers. I made more money at Roadway even when you count the slow LTL season in January and February.

[tbaarr]

you say you get your drivers paid for 52 weeks

wonderful

that implies they worked all 52 weeks

no vacation

when did they take hometime in those 52 weeks

hometime aint paid

the figures i used are based on 4 days a month hometime

are you gonna now state that during hometime week

7days of which 4 are off your driver did 2300mi

get real thats 700 mi a day

give me a break on that lie

i know you can do 700 in a 65mph state with 15 min left

heck i did 720 with a half hour left

10.5hrs

on an electronic qualcom log at werner

using what werner drivers know to be called

the werner break 8 line 1 breaks taking only 10 min gives 40 min driving on line 1 by dot regs

but you have chosen to ignore that fact

just like you say your company will beat my company on job bids

again you are wrong

crete bids based on rand mcnally short miles just like yours does

they just reduce their profit margin

by paying practical miles to their drivers

something your heartland wont do

guess your ceo's want a bigger bonus at your drivers expense

[tbaarr]

i have posted this way for almost 10 years now

why should i change

those who find it annoying

dont read it

those that call me a 2nd grader

i dont give a rats butt about

i have posted this way for almost 10 years now

why should i change

those who find it annoying

dont read it

those that call me a 2nd grader

i dont give a rats butt about

I think

your tinfoil

hat is on

too

tight.

[tbaarr]

its starting tooo stink in here

better change your diaper tf

better still

stick to the topic

its heartland

or is your iq toooo low to figure that out

its starting tooo stink in here

better change your diaper tf

better still

stick to the topic

its heartland

or is your iq toooo low to figure that out

I bet that

tbarf has

a hard time

walking past a

microwave with

the tin foil

hat on. Wets

his pants everytime.



Anyhow back to topic.... Tbarf post something constructive and put down the cheetos.

[greg3564]

its starting tooo stink in here

better change your diaper tf

better still

stick to the topic

its heartland

or is your iq toooo low to figure that out

I bet that

tbarf has

a hard time

walking past a

microwave with

the tin foil

hat on. Wets

his pants everytime.



Anyhow back to topic.... Tbarf post something constructive and put down the cheetos.

Now THAT........is funny!!!!

[Twilight Flyer]

you say you get your drivers paid for 52 weeks

Right.

wonderful

I think it is.

that implies they worked all 52 weeks

51 weeks and a week vacation...that's standard procedure with any job, right? 50 weeks with 2 week off after 3 years with us. Vacation pay implies you get paid for it. At least it has with every job I've ever had or known about.

Here, vacation is paid on an average work week. So if you're averaging a grand a week in mileage pay, you would get a grand in vacation pay for the miles you've been averaging. You seeing that?

no vacation

See above.

when did they take hometime in those 52 weeks

Um, weekends for a regional? Every other weekend for OTR?

hometime aint paid

Right. And there isn't any company out there that pays for regular weekly or bi-weekly hometime. For the life of me, I have no idea what your point is so far. But I'll keep trying.

the figures i used are based on 4 days a month hometime

About standard for OTR. Regional would be 6-8 days home per month on average.

are you gonna now state that during hometime week

7days of which 4 are off your driver did 2300mi

You really should doublecheck your figures before you post, you know? 3 days on, 4 days off? A 3-day work week?!?

Let me help you out a bit. 5-6 days out as a regional driver...2300 miles. That's around the 400 to 500 mark per day.

You can jump on the bandwagon and dislike Heartland all you want. I've no issues with that. But if you're going to make outlandish things up, you're only embarrassing yourself.

[ken_o]

does heartland offer orientations at your ft smith term?

[Twilight Flyer]

Not anymore. The guy that used to do orientation down there retired a number of years ago and they stopped doing orientation there.

[ken_o]

the guy that did orientation retired why not have someone else do it why stop alltogether.
whats the address of that term?

[Twilight Flyer]

Because Fort Smith is not a dispatch terminal. Just a shop, fuel, and driver's area. No dispatch, no orientation, no office people. So we do orientation over in Olive Branch, MS.

[ken_o]

ok thanks for info

[clawHAMMER]

its starting tooo stink in here

better change your diaper tf

better still

stick to the topic

its heartland

or is your iq toooo low to figure that out

I bet that

tbarf has

a hard time

walking past a

microwave with

the tin foil

hat on. Wets

his pants everytime.



Anyhow back to topic.... Tbarf post something constructive and put down the cheetos.

That's hilarious! I got a visual. Can you say u n e d u c a t e d. & c l a s s l e s s He's been typing that way for 10 years already. He must've been one of the first ones on the www back then what chya think, with a mouse in one hand and a bag of Cheetos in the other :P . 10 years and he still hasn't caught on to the etiquette.

BTW, I enjoy reading your posts in this thread Twilight. I think tbarf needs to go back to remedial addition and subtraction classes and can start practicing by counting the bugs on his windshield if he can ever see over the Cheetos bags and dirty socks piled up on his dashboard. Once he accomplishes that then maybe he could start working on his vocabulary because if he talks anything like he writes then he's obviously a c l u e l e s s c o n f u s e d c e m e n t h e a d :?

[tbaarr]

they dont post anything about the topic

they just go off topic to attack me

and you do nothing

aint that wonderful

hey all 3 of you bush supporting 1st grade trolls

you really are number _ 1 _


you all qualify for the 1 finger salute

i wont be feeding you trolls anymore

so post all your 1st grade attacks

you aint worth replying too

if you aint gonna stick to the topic

which was heartland and twilights so called truth

[greg3564]

they dont post anything about the topic

they just go off topic to attack me

and you do nothing

aint that wonderful

hey all 3 of you bush supporting 1st grade trolls

you really are number _ 1 _


you all qualify for the 1 finger salute

i wont be feeding you trolls anymore

so post all your 1st grade attacks

you aint worth replying too

if you aint gonna stick to the topic

which was heartland and twilights so called truth

Well I think twilight answered all your questions. Whether or not you want to believe or agree with them is your decision. I never see him recruiting here and so I would be inclined to believe what he has to say. But every company has drivers who felt they were wronged or cheated and no matter what anyone says or does that person will always argue that the company lies.

they dont post anything about the topic

they just go off topic to attack me

and you do nothing

aint that wonderful

hey all 3 of you bush supporting 1st grade trolls

you really are number _ 1 _


you all qualify for the 1 finger salute

i wont be feeding you trolls anymore

so post all your 1st grade attacks

you aint worth replying too

if you aint gonna stick to the topic

which was heartland and twilights so called truth

SOMEBODY CALL THE WAAAAAAAMBULANCE !!!!! :sad:
:sad:

[Twilight Flyer]

Tbarr: I think you will find that if you scroll back through the thread, the person making the most derogatory comments, was you...enough that one of your posts even had to be edited.

I had intended on leaving this thread open simply to let commentary continue about the pros and cons of the company. But the thread has regressed to the point where nothing more will be accomplished here, so I will close it down...for that reason and only that reason.

As far as you go, you were asked several times to tone down the nastiness. Perhaps a time out is in order?