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View Poll Results: Does "HANOI JANE" deserve "Woman of the Century"?

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Thread: Does "HANOI JANE" deserve "Woman of the Century"?

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    Default Does "HANOI JANE" deserve "Woman of the Centu

    It seems Barbara Walters is about to slap the faces of everyone that served to defend the freedom of our country, the faces of those that lost loved ones in Viet Nam, and children that will never know their real fathers.

    Please read this:

    IF YOU NEVER FORWARDED ANYTHING IN YOU LIFE FORWARD THIS SO THAT EVERYONE WILL KNOW!!!!!!.......
    She really is a traitor

    A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED
    KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA

    This is for all the kids born in the 70's who do
    not remember, and didn't have to bear the
    burden that our fathers, mothers and older
    brothers and sisters had to bear.

    Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the
    "100 Women of the Century."

    BY BARBRA WALTERS


    Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still
    countless others have never known how Ms.
    Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country,
    but specific men who served and sacrificed
    during Vietnam.

    The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot

    The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat.

    In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF
    Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison
    the "Hanoi Hilton."

    Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell,
    cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was
    ordered to describe for a visiting American
    "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane
    treatment" he'd received.

    He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was
    dragged away.
    During the subsequent beating, he fell forward
    on to the camp Commandant's feet, which
    sent that officer berserk.

    In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from
    double vision (which permanently ended his
    flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied
    application of a wooden baton.

    From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the
    47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the
    "Hanoi Hilton",,, the first three of which his
    family only knew he was "missing in action".
    His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.
    His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and
    clothed routine in preparation for a
    "peace delegation" visit.
    They, however, had time and devised a plan to
    get word to the world that they were alive
    and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny
    piece of paper, with his Social Security Number
    on it, in the palm of his hand.

    When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a
    cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each
    man's hand and asking little encouraging
    snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed
    babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane
    treatment from your benevolent captors?"
    Believing this HAD to be an act, they each
    palmed her their sliver of paper.
    She took them all without missing a beat. At the
    end of the line and once the camera stopped
    rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs,
    she turned to the officer in charge and handed
    him all the little pieces of paper.

    Three men died from the subsequent beatings.
    Colonel Carrigan was almost number four
    but he survived, which is the only reason we
    know of her actions that day.

    I was a civilian economic development advisor
    in Vietnam, and was captured by the North
    Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in
    1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.

    I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one
    year in a cage in Cambodia; and one year
    in a "black box" in Hanoi.
    My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
    poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a
    nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South
    Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the
    Cambodian border.
    At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs.
    (My normal weight is 170 lbs.)

    We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."

    When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by
    the camp communist political officer if I would
    be willing to meet with her.

    I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real
    treatment we POWs received... and how
    different it was from the treatment purported by
    the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as
    "humane and lenient."

    Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky
    floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched
    with a large steel weights placed on my hands,
    and beaten with a bamboo cane.

    I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda
    soon after I was released. I asked her
    if she would be willing to debate me on TV.
    She never did answer me.

    These first-hand experiences do not exemplify
    someone who should be honored as part
    of "100 Years of Great Women."
    Lest we forget..." 100 Years of Great Women"
    should never include a traitor whose hands are
    covered with the blood of so many patriots.

    There are few things I have strong visceral
    reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in
    blatant treason, is one of them.
    Please take the time to forward to as many
    people as you possibly can.
    It will eventually end up on her computer and
    she needs to know that we will never forget.
    RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF
    716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of
    Maintenance
    DSN: 875-6431
    COMM: 883-6343

    PLEASE HELP BY SENDING THIS TO
    EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. IF
    ENOUGH PEOPLE SEE THIS MAYBE HER
    STATUS WILL CHANGE
    Destroy the cities...
    and they will rebuild them.
    Destroy the farms...
    and grass will grow in the streets of the cities.

    Destroy the economy of the blue-collar worker...
    and grass will grow in the executive offices.

    The bill has come due.
    ( R E T I R E D , and glad of it)


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    I was in Vietnam and of COURSE the Answer is HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NOOOOOOO.
    she's a B....... and up to her Old tricks again-Hollywierd at it's Finest.

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    She should be SHOT ON SITE!!!
    I love my truck
    OOIDA # 4260

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoopr
    I was in Vietnam and of COURSE the Answer is HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NOOOOOOO.
    she's a B....... and up to her Old tricks again-Hollywierd at it's Finest.
    You got that right, Yoop!! I had several real good friends that went to Nam and didn't come back except in a box.
    "Looks like a legend and an outta work bum look a lotta like Daddy," Little Enos Burdette.
    Hook 'em Horns!!
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    um, this lady has a bad rap. I don't know too much about her. Guess she did something raunchy. Could some one go into more detail about her for me please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimahri1114
    um, this lady has a bad rap. I don't know too much about her. Guess she did something raunchy. Could some one go into more detail about her for me please?
    Dang, your making me feel old Do a Google search of her and nam. I'm sure there is plenty out there on the subject. Better yet see if you can work it into a school assignment. Even better, BETTER yet. Learn ALL you can about U.S. History! Not just the glossed over, P.C. Readers Digest verison of it but the indepth REAL verison of it. It will serve you well thru your whole life.

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    Ok, I will. Sorry I never can remember to google stuff. I am kinda lazy so thats why I was asking you guys. I guess that laziness has to go huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimahri1114
    Ok, I will. Sorry I never can remember to google stuff. I am kinda lazy so thats why I was asking you guys. I guess that laziness has to go huh?
    And ME being lazy is why I didn't answer your question.

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    Default Hanoi Jane

    I guess i could sum it up from and old Saturday Night Live skit.

    Jane, you ignorant **** !!!!!!!!!

    She deserves to be drawn and quartered. It was bad enough to come home to the hatred received from the general population, but to have a celebrity over there condemning us for being there was a kick in the nutz. Too bad SHE wasn't drafted. The she could have been shot for being a traitor .

    Have a GREAT day !

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    She should be shot.

    Probably the only person in the world I really hate.

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    Pretty funny bringing up this old thread. Even funnier how the organized attack against Jane Fonda was started.

    http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...y/aa110399.htm

    Both Driscoll and Carrigan mentioned in the e-mail never met Jane Fonda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin
    Pretty funny bringing up this old thread. Even funnier how the organized attack against Jane Fonda was started.

    http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...y/aa110399.htm

    Both Driscoll and Carrigan mentioned in the e-mail never met Jane Fonda.
    In 1988 she delivered a televised apology to Vietnam veterans and their families, a gesture that didn't mollify everyone but established some distance between the new Fonda and old Fonda, whose actions, she finally admitted, had been "thoughtless and careless."

    Quoted from that website ^

    Your close to my age arn't you? Don't you remember the News Reels of her doing this? I know I've seen them and remember them well.

    This would be a slap in the face for every American if she gets this award.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin
    Pretty funny bringing up this old thread. Even funnier how the organized attack against Jane Fonda was started.

    http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...y/aa110399.htm

    Both Driscoll and Carrigan mentioned in the e-mail never met Jane Fonda.
    Quote Originally Posted by glasman2
    In 1988 she delivered a televised apology to Vietnam veterans and their families, a gesture that didn't mollify everyone but established some distance between the new Fonda and old Fonda, whose actions, she finally admitted, had been "thoughtless and careless."

    Quoted from that website ^

    Your close to my age arn't you? Don't you remember the News Reels of her doing this? I know I've seen them and remember them well.

    This would be a slap in the face for every American if she gets this award.
    I didn't state she was without fault. I was trying to point out this bogus e-mail that was flying around the country.

    I'm 34 and didn't even know who she was until the mid 80's.

    She already got the award in 1998. Have your welts subsided yet? 8)
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    She's gone from Hanoi Jane to Jihad Jane

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoopr
    She's gone from Hanoi Jane to Jihad Jane
    What? Because some bloggers say so?

    Don't those bloggers have something better to do, like not dividing this country even more than it already is? No matter how stupid her comments, no matter what she says, it's not treason until she's charged with the crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin
    Quote Originally Posted by yoopr
    She's gone from Hanoi Jane to Jihad Jane
    No matter how stupid her comments, no matter what she says, it's not treason until she's charged with the crime.
    Nore is burning the American flag, but burn one in my yard.... and I'll go to jail. Baseball bat hits 2 balls instead of 1.

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