RIP JoePa

[Mr. Ford95]

You were Penn St

[GMAN]

It is such a shame that he passed away under such circumstances. He has been in failing health for some time.

[Mr. Ford95]

The only good thing with the circumstances is that he was already no longer the coach when he passed, he didn't die in office. His football legacy is not tarnished IMO, as a person though it's tarnished a little bit.

[GMAN]

I heard on a news segment earlier that some of the college administrators may be indicted.

[ironeagle_2006]

I will tell you what would be the Ultimate Irony he ends up Cleared after Death and the Admins that did NOT GO TO THE POLICE like they should have end up in Prison like they need to. JoePa was the one coach that deserved to go out on his terms not Fired over the Phone like he was.

[Mr. Ford95]

No matter what comes of it all, it still does not diminish what he accomplished ON THE FIELD. His character can be tarnished but what he did as a football coach for 46 years as the head man at PSU and 62 years overall at PSU as a coach, that shall never be tarnished. He not only helped build PSU but he kept them as a household name. He started as the head coach in 1966, it was 22 years before he had his first losing season after 2 national titles. It was another 22 years before he had another losing season where he proceeded to have 4 losing seasons over the next 5 years before getting the ship righted in 2005 and finishing 3rd that year. How many other coaches had a career even close to that long and were as successful at the D1 level? I can only name Bear Bryant and Eddie Robinson, both HOF's. Hell, Bear was the one who took his team into the Texas desert and nearly killed all those boys but that was considered a-ok even today by people, just don't be morally wrong like JoePa.

[Roadhog]

Great coach, but a weak man where it counted most.

[Mackman]

I think its a big joke that the Gov. Made the sate flag at half staff for him. That really pissed me off. Not like he was a war hero or a cop or firefighter that died tryin to save a life. He was a football coach who played a game.

[Mr. Ford95]

Uh Mack, he was a state official for his entire coaching career at Penn St. I think 62 years of service at least warrants some recognition by the state. If Frank Beamer were to up and croak at VT the flags here would be lowered for a day or 5 because he was a respected state official.

[Mackman]

I cant find nothing online saying he was a state official?? Maybe im not looking hard enough. I really dont know much about the guy. I just didnt think him diying was worth lowering all the states flags to have staff.

[Mr. Ford95]

PSU is a state institution. All workers there are then state workers/officials. It's all in the name Mack, The Pennsylvania State University. You should have been able to find his pay and stuff online as a state official, it's supposed to be public records.

Here's an article:Joe Paterno In Line For $554,000 Annual Pension: AP

Paterno's pension records obtained Tuesday from the State Employees' Retirement System credit him with more than 60 years in the system.

[Mackman]

PSU is a state institution. All workers there are then state workers/officials. It's all in the name Mack, The Pennsylvania State University. You should have been able to find his pay and stuff online as a state official, it's supposed to be public records.

Here's an article:Joe Paterno In Line For $554,000 Annual Pension: AP

Well if thats the case do you think they should put the state flags at half staff when a teacher or Janitor has 62 years in??

[Mr. Ford95]

If they end up leading the school to national prominence in something then why not? They've done something great.

[Mackman]

If they end up leading the school to national prominence in something then why not? They've done something great.

I dunno maybe your right. I just dont think what joe pa did was worthy. When we had men and woman dieing in Iraq and cops and firefigthers dieing all in the line of duty. Giving the ultimate sacrifice their lifes for our country and other people. Why not lower the PA state falg to half staff for a day when someone from PA dies in the line of duty. But yet we will do it for a football coach.

Maybe im the one thinking messed up on this.