NASCAR Fans????

[Blacksheep]

may i come to your black panther party?

by the way, i heard dale jr. is a closet case, gets gay with jeff gordon, and that danica patrick can race circles around the both of them. is this true?

Are you speaking from experience ? If you're not into racing why post d ick head stuff ? unless you're a troll........

[Syncrosonix]

Are you speaking from experience ? If you're not into racing why post d ick head stuff ? unless you're a troll........

i hate on nascar because it's a bunch of redneck and trailer park trash they cater to. i prefer european automobiles and racing. rally cross is awesome, so is the le mans grand prix, and lets face it, european automobiles ROFLstomp their american competition.

oh, it's fun to troll.

[Mr. Ford95]

Wait, NASCAR caters to rednecks and trailer trash these days? Sy, where have you been, they DO NOT cater to those, they have sold out to the social elite. They started the sell out in the late 90's when the sport started to become mainstream in the US instead of regional. They started cleaning up the drivers so that they didn't look like a hillbilly. The teams these days have contracts on how you can friggin dress and stuff while at the track. The drivers are supposed to act like robots instead of just trying to have a good time and enjoy what they do due to the sponsors that spend big money on their team. Ticket prices are ridiculous high, while they aren't $200 a pop like F1 at Indy was, they are still double what they were just 15 years ago. I have ticket stubs from Richmond from 1993, ticket price, $40, same seats in 2005, $80, 2009, $85. They have slowly priced out the "rednecks" and "trailer trash."

You ought take that racist attitude on somewhere else instead of putting down someone you don't know with that redneck, trailer trash comment. That's not cool and being that I'm from a NASCAR family, I sure don't appreciate it considering I don't live in a trailer and my neck isn't red but becuase I'm from the country and like NASCAR I'm still considered a redneck.

[Syncrosonix]

racist? i am an equal opportunity hater.

[mike3fan]

They started cleaning up the drivers so that they didn't look like a hillbilly. The teams these days have contracts on how you can friggin dress and stuff while at the track. The drivers are supposed to act like robots instead of just trying to have a good time and enjoy what they do due to the sponsors that spend big money on their team.

Jeff Burton disagrees with you.

NASCAR fans explain yourself to Jeff Burton | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

[Mr. Ford95]

Mike my comment was misinterpeted, the teams and sponsors, not NASCAR is what I was commenting on. The teams and sponsors have made these drivers for the most part like robots. They had to because of the sponsors, this sport is so sponsor driven that you have to do what the sponsor says if you want their money. Remember Terry Labonte's comments at Darlington back I think in like 2002 or 2003? He was saying how Kellogg's wanted him to race a certain way and telling him how his dress code should be while not in the car. While Jeff Burton has some good sponsors that don't tell him to watch what he says or how to drive or how to dress, there are other's out there that do. Why, because that driver is the face of that sponsor and any negative they put out, will look bad on the sponsor. Kellogg's wasn't too keen on Kyle Busch, he was winning races but his general attitude in interviews made him a bad spokesman for the company. I can guarantee, had Hendrick not shown him the door when he did, Kellogg's would not be on the hood of car if he was still in the 5.

As for NASCAR themselves, they allow the drivers to speak and somewhat act more freely than they did in the early 2000's. They were punishing drivers for stupid stuff back then. They got some backlash from the fans and NASCAR loosened up a bit. Remember Harvick's parking after a Truck race at Martinsville? He showed some raw emotion by going out and wrecking Coy Gibbs after Gibbs wrecked him at a short track of all places where you expect that stuff to happen. He was parked for the Cup race the next day for it. Jimmy Spencer was suspended for showing his emotions at Michigan by punching Kurt Busch in the nose. That was the first time NASCAR suspended a driver for "fighting." Mikey did the same thing to Lake Speed at the same track and he only got a fine. Earnhardt punched Mikey once in the same way and got a fine also. Lest we forget Mike Wallace's big fine for his animated and colorful discussion with Shane Hmiel following a wreck between the two at Rockingham in a Busch race? Because someone could have lip read what Wallace said, he was fined big time for it. You couldn't quite hear what he said, but you could lip read it for sure. FOX later apologized to Wallace for even showing it on TV since it was on a 5-10 second delay. So yes, NASCAR has toned things down and tried to get away from the whole redneck crap but they don't rule it with an iron fist like they were just 10 years ago.

[belpre122]

Excellent points Mr. Ford.

So what's the inside scoop on Mayfield and his drug ban?

[Mr. Ford95]

This Mayfield thing was shocking, I'd thought they would have popped Denny Hamlin first if the source is right. I'm buying Mayfield's excuse though, the doctor he uses also works with the NCAA and other pro sports. NASCAR has already said it wasn't alcohol or performance enhancing steroids, what else could it be besides him smoking some pot? I don't see him as being the type of guy that would do that, particularly after one of his team members was busted at Daytona this year under the new drug policy of which he fired him over it. As for the Hamlin comment, inside knowledge has seen some stuff with him that would lead one to believe he's juicing for some reason or he's very bi-polar. Fine one minute, then flipping out and wanting to fight the next while lifting weights.

[Scottt]

I have a few friends that work for Nascar Teams

Mayfields claim is he was taking RX Adderall and OTC Claritin Clear

Adderall is a brand-name drug psychostimulant composed of mixed amphetamine salts, which is thought to work by increasing the amount of norepinephrine and dopamine in the brain. [1] Adderall is widely reported to increase alertness, concentration and overall cognitive performance while decreasing user fatigue.

[belpre122]

Heh heh......I just have to wonder why a professional race car driver takes a drug commonly prescribed for Attention Deficit Disorder.

Bet there have been a few snickers about that up and down the garage area. Maybe this explains a few things about Mayfield's up and down career?

[Mr. Ford95]

If it was an amphetamine then he is toast. That is one of the things NASCAR is testing for. Here is a list of what they test the crews for:

Seven different amphetamines, including methamphetamine and PMA, a synthetic psychostimulant and hallucinogen.

Three drugs classified under ephedrine.

13 different narcotics, including codeine and morphine.

Ten different benzodiazepines and barbituates.

Marijuana, cocaine, zolpidem, nitrites, chromates and drugs that can increase specific gravity.

If true on what he took, I can understand the Claritin, I take it everyday so my allergies don't act up. As for the Adderall if it's an amphetamine then yes, he broke the policy. The driver's are being tested for at least the above and then some. If Adderall does all the above, then it is performance enhancing particularly in the longer races where fatigue starts to set in. Now if he has a real life medical condition that requires the use of it, maybe NASCAR needs to investigate it carefully and not string the man up for something he can't help. It may not be right that he's taking it, but if it keeps him from having a wreck because of ADD and taking out a bunch of cars, I'd rather have him on it.

[belpre122]

If it was an amphetamine then he is toast. That is one of the things NASCAR is testing for. Here is a list of what they test the crews for:



If true on what he took, I can understand the Claritin, I take it everyday so my allergies don't act up. As for the Adderall if it's an amphetamine then yes, he broke the policy. The driver's are being tested for at least the above and then some. If Adderall does all the above, then it is performance enhancing particularly in the longer races where fatigue starts to set in. Now if he has a real life medical condition that requires the use of it, maybe NASCAR needs to investigate it carefully and not string the man up for something he can't help. It may not be right that he's taking it, but if it keeps him from having a wreck because of ADD and taking out a bunch of cars, I'd rather have him on it.

Seems as though you have taken a solid look at the angles by which Mayfield had this drug in his system. If it was indeed a prescribed drug, should it have therefore been allowed? Or, was the use of this drug outright banned for any use. I think that is where we are at in this situation and there are many questions that are unyet unanswered. If Mayfield was legally prescribed the Adderall, then what is the problem? Is it the fact that Adderall itself is a banned substance? I guess we're not really clear at this point.

At the very least, I would hope that if I had any question at all regarding a drug, prescribed or over-the-counter, that information should have been immediately forwarded to NASCAR for an official answer. The time at which you pee in to the cup is much much too late. Cow's already out of the barn by then.

I can see this becoming a very interesting situation. What's your take O' Mr. Ford!?

[Mr. Ford95]

If Adderall is banned but another ADD medicine is available that isn't banned, why was he not on that if it is a health issue? He should know what is allowed and what isn't being a team owner, or at least I would think he should. NASCAR of course isn't going to let any details out it looks like. Anything that comes out is rumor or hearsay unless NASCAR does a formal press release on it with details. We can discuss it till we're blue in the face and it won't matter.

[belpre122]

He should know what is allowed and what isn't being a team owner, or at least I would think he should.

Yeah Mr. Ford, you surely would think that he would be keenly aware of what is and isn't allowed.

NASCAR of course isn't going to let any details out it looks like.

Yeah, they probably won't on an official level. Coincidentally, I had just read a magazine article about Adderall abuse on college campuses and in American society in general.

The effects of the drug seem to be exactly what a race car driver would be looking for as a "performance booster." It will indeed be interesting to see how this all pans out.

Be sure to keep us in the loop Mr. Ford.

[Mr. Ford95]

Big rumor gaining steam is that he did not test positive to any ADD medicine. Hearing the positive test was for Claritin D. A drug expert who went before congress is saying that if true, it would be a first that Claritin D came back as something bad on a drug test. I don't see how this could be dangerous unless he had the type that makes you drowsy. I only use the non-drowsy stuff that is a tiny 10 mg pill. Never came back as a positive drug test for me. Apparently though, Claritin D is also known as pseudoephedrine which is a banned substance in most sports even though it's normal use is for nasal decongestion. Could this be another one of NASCAR's silly little rules or policies that is written in pencil? Pencil so they can change it to whatever fits their bill for that day by erasing anything they want and re-writing it.

[Mr. Ford95]

Anyone catch Bill Elliott's little deal he had going on at 'Dega the other day? Tried to beat his track record in a Mustang. Didn't work out so well, blew a right front on the backstretch at about 225 mph and turned head on into the wall.

Bill Elliott comes up short in attempt to pin the needle at 'Dega - From th... - NASCAR - Yahoo! Sports

After watching the video, maybe NASCAR should look some more into removing the plates, you could hear Elliott pedaling the car into 1. It would be racing just like all the other tracks, if you hit the setup your going to do well, if not your going to struggle. I of course like the big pack racing, it's a totally different beast, but if handling is brought into play at 'Dega, we won't see the big pileups because the field will get so stretched out as if they were on a cookie cutter track. Handling is already an issue at Daytona even with the plates, especially in the July race.

[belpre122]

Big rumor gaining steam is that he did not test positive to any ADD medicine. Hearing the positive test was for Claritin D. A drug expert who went before congress is saying that if true, it would be a first that Claritin D came back as something bad on a drug test.

This is going to get interesting for sure Mr. Ford.

IMHO...........Best part about it is that they have him off the track!

A rolling chicane, that hobo!!

[Mr. Ford95]

Well, "Little" France showed up at Lowes Motor Speedway yesterday to have a talk with the drivers and media about this incident with Mayfield. Basically, someone is lying through their teeth and apparently it's up to the fans and drivers to figure it out on their own. IMO, big mistake on their part. France said this wasn't a minor problem, it was a very major problem and when asked if it was possible the tests were tainted or tampered with, he said it was very highly improbable. In his words, their system works just fine. So, if France is telling the truth, Mayfield was not found positive for Claritin D or any ADD medicine. France clarified that if it's a perscription medicine they will talk with you about it and usually let it go.

NASCAR won't reveal substance in Mayfield test - NASCAR - Yahoo! Sports

I totally agree with Jenna that NASCAR needs to come clean on what he was on. The drivers are still scared straight even after their meeting with France and Dr. Black. Mayfield's fans(yeah probably only like 20 of them these days) even deserve to know the truth on whether they want to still pull for him or not.

**Mayfield was seen in the infield speaking with media during the All-Star before NASCAR found him and kicked him out. NASCAR has a lawsuit coming down the pipe over this, Mayfield says nobody ever talked to him on May 8th like they say and he never asked for his "B" sample to be tested again, like they say. Mayfield says he was told on May 7th that he had a positive test and then told a few days later that he was suspended. He went on to say that after the first talk on May 7th, he and his doctor started getting all the paperwork together to show NASCAR his 2 medications he was on at Richmond........this is gonna get nasty and NASCAR put themselves in this position by trying to keep everything a secret.

[belpre122]

Thanks for the link Mr. Ford.................. a very interesting article

" the positive result was not for a performance-enhancer, leaving a narcotic or controlled substance as the cause of the positive test"

The plot thickens. This situation sure isn't going away soon.

I just have to wonder why Mayfield is being so evasive. Something is very wrong here.

[Scottt]

Another impressive run by Nascar's Poster Boy.

Maybe Felony Motorsports can cry loud enough at the owners and drivers meeting with Nascar tomorrow that they will let him Win one soon.