Quick question here:

One job I've got a possibility of getting is a local job, running within a 100 mile radius. The boss said that they don't run log books because of the short-haul operation. However, you cross state lines to do the job.

It was my understanding that if you crossed state lines, even though it's under 100 miles (closer to 30 miles), you still have to run a log book.

Who is right on this? I didn't question him about it because I want the job. But, if it's required to run a log book, I'll bring it up to him within a day or 2 of being hired.

I know some of our local guys run up to WY and don't run a log. I too was under that impression as well until I saw them doing it.

Start with memorizing this;

Driver's record of duty status. - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

then read this over and try to make sense out of the two;

Scope of rules in this part. - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration


Personally........Buy yourself the logbooks. Fill it out every day, just as though you were going to be submitting them with your daily tickets. Keep copies of the previous 8 days logs with you in case you get pulled over. Keeps you out of trouble with the law....and with your new employer.

my 2 cents

Thanks for the links - will go over them to try to decipher it

The "100 air mile" exemption used to be a cinch for not logging. But in the mid-80's it started changing. First with requiring haz-mat haulers to log everything....now unless you're "special" it is hard not to have to log.

Malakai, I run "locally" within 100 mile radius. We keep HOS logs UNLESS you drive over 12 hours per day or over 50% of your time is spent driving. At Hiland Dairy, we have
some transport drivers that just run trailers back and forth so they do logs, we have some others that deliver milk and stay under 12 hours so they run HOS sheets

Ditto on what Orangetxguy says here. I would cover my butt, never mind what the boss says. I think that you are right about crossing state lines and
it is still a good idea to cover your butt on this one.