Another logbook question/ Recap hours.
 

Ok I just read something and how I'm confused :? , say I run out of hours on my 7th day, I would have to wait untill midnight on my 8th day to get the hours back from my 1st day? And say they where 10 hours (if I'm right) and I only drove 6 I cant roll those 4 hours onto the 9 th day? I thought that was right but from what I read it is not. :?

Re: Another logbook question/ Recap hours.
 

Let's say your 70 hours began on Monday, July 7. You would gain back any hours you drove on Monday, July 7 on Tuesday, July 15th at 12:00 AM (8 days later).

If you gained 10 hours on your 8th day, and you only used 6 of those 10, the extra 4 hours rolls over onto the 9th day. If you were gaining 10 hours on day 9, you would have 14 hours available.

Yes I believe you have it right. If you run 10 hours a day for 7 days on the 8th day you will have no hours until the next day, then you will have 10 from the 1st day. If you only use 6 then the following day you will pick up another 10 plus the 4 left over. However, if you use up all your hours in 7 days and your going to sit around all day on the 8th day you're pretty much going to be doing a 34 hour restart anyways unless you're really crunched for time. In my way of doing things I run hard all week, 11-12 hour days, then when Thursday or Friday rolls around I hope for a weekend run that delivers on Monday but is the right mileage that I can run real hard and get there Saturday night then lounge around doing a 34 hour restart until my load delivers Monday morning. The 8.75 hours each day thing generally doesn't work out here. Too much going on, too many places to be unless you have a set run. 8) 8)

Ok that is what I thought , I read somewhere that my hours would not roll over but I either read it wrong or something.

Remember though, if you hit the magic 70 hours mark, you MUST take the 34 hour reset. Make sure you shut down at 69.75 if you have roll over hours to work with!

Ummmm......No.

There is no requirement that says you must take a 34 hour reset.

Most newer drivers would be in DEEP DO DO if and when the DOT gets rid of the 34hr reset. I never had one and always had to watch my hours near the end of the 8 day stretch. That is one of the things PATT wants out of the new regs when they are written. Think about it you have 14 to work so in 5 days out of hours and then reset on the night of the 5th one and then 6th one. 7th day have a fresh 70 and over the next 2 days you can work 28 more which in my books makes you more tired than before in terms of HOURS WORKED. Of course the ATA is against removing the 34 hour reset why means they can force more work into the same stretch when we use to have only 70.

I never had trouble making money with the old system yet everyone hated it we had more flexiblity than the current one NO 14 hour clock before a shutdown and the 34 hour reset WTF was that we had to actually use math and figure out how many hours we did have and communicate that to dispatch instead of just taking a reset. BTW that system lasted close to 70 YEARS before the ATA got the 1st rewrite what are they on now the 3rd and still it does not pass muster in the court system.

Are you sure about that? Say I go 70 hours then how long do I have to sit before I can do another 70 hours?

Positive.

If you use up all 70 hours within 8 days, you must wait as long as it takes for hours to start dropping off.

Let's say you ran 8.75 hours per day for 8 days. You'd have 70 hours in 8 days. On day 9, you would gain back 8.75 hours from day 1. On day 10, you'd gain back 8.75 hours from day 2. And so on, and so forth. 34 hour resets are never, and have never been, mandatory.

Interesting, because according the the Fedral Motor Carriers Safety Administration it says


May not drive after 60/70 hours on duty in 7/8 consecutive days.
A driver may restart a 7/8 consecutive day period after taking 34 or more consecutive hours off duty.

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regul...s/HOS-2005.htm