Logging pre-trip inspection
Is it necessarily to log pre trip inspection before truck starts moving :?: If I plan to fuel two hrs down the road, can I mark PTI with fueling, instead of showing PTI at the beginning of the day? It would save me 15 minutes, since my company allows us to combine fueling and pretrip in one 15 min mark.
Also if I start driving 1 am, run till 11 am, take 10 hrs break and start moving again 9pm, do I have to show on my logbook another 15 min for pretrip in the same 24-hrs period? I am driving for 25 yrs, but somehow never was sure about those. And sometimes I need that 15 min to do my destination on time. :twisted: Thx. |
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Also law requires, that I am satisfied. Hmmm. Maybe I am that kinda person, who is always satisfied? Even if my wheels are falling off and break lines are full of holes? Should I be satisfied, or a DOT officer? :twisted: :lol: |
You can just flag your pretrip, not using any minutes, then you can do your inspection anytime later. I always combined it with loading or unloading, 15 min. only.# 2 - No, one 15 min. inspection in 24 hrs. is all that's required. I have been doted many times and all I show is a 15 min inspection whether it's during loading, unloading, or during fuel, one line drawn down for 15 min , and that's it. Everything else I just flag, and have never had a ticket on my logs. Wasting 15 minutes for fueling, loading, unloading is something the personal companies require, but the only thing in the reg's is one 15 min. inspection in a 24 hr. period.
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No - this section of FMCSA code pertains to Pre Trip inspections - not in-route inspections. It must be done prior to driving. There are no regulations for in-route inspections, except for certain operations (such as hazmat, oversize, etc.) Quote:
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That is exactly why I ask. Just to be safe, I always marked 15 min after each 8, or later 10 hrs break. It was different, when I drove 5 on 5 off, but now it is no option. However I recently heard what jiptwoo said, so I?m checking with smarter then I. But I am getting confusing answers. So what is it? Any straight answers? Thx. |
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There are several FMCSA rules that govern pre trip and post trip inspections. Here they are, with links to their location: PRE TRIP INSPECTIONS: Quote:
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Plain and simple, log a pre trip, and do the pre trip at the beginning of the day. Log a post trip, and do the post trip at the end of the day. If you are speedy gonzalez, and you can manage to inspect all those items in less than 15 minutes, then you can flag the pre trip or post trip, and not drop down to "On Duty, Not Driving". But I challenge anyone to inspect all those items listed on the pre trip in less than 15 minutes, and I challenge anyone to inspect all the items listed on your "Daily Vehicle Inspection Report" in less than 15 minutes. |
Thx, Rev! Therefore, I stick to what I was doing all those years. On duty 15 min at the beginning of the day and after each 10 hrs break, and flag it at the end of the day. It worked for me so far, so it will in the future. At least to next change in the DOT regulations.
One more thing. Being a trucker for many years is not always good for knowing all the laws and regulations by the book. We do many things because we always were doing them. Kid after school knows all the rules, but I never went to school. That is why I ask. When I got my class A license, in 1982, it was not a CDL, but chauffeurs license. Road test: I had to drive around a driver license office, no backing, no parking, no inspecting truck, except checking windshield wipers and a horn. Officer was so happy I did not drive over lawn and bushes and that he could understand me, (my English was very, very poor then), he happily gave mi license. :D |
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