User Tag List

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 12-23-2011, 12:01 AM
Fredog's Avatar
Senior Board Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: North Georgia
Posts: 3,756
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default They didnt screw us too bad

New hours-of-service rule released - Safety and Regulation Compliance Products, Training, and Services, J.J. Keller & Associates
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-23-2011, 01:50 AM
Windwalker's Avatar
Board Icon
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Been there and gone...
Posts: 6,412
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Default

I guess if I were still driving, the two time periods between 1 AM and 5 AM would not be a problem. I generally fit my 34 hours into a 48 hour time span. The 30 minute break after 8 consecutive hours of driving isn't all that bad either. I used to take a break after about 6 or 7 hours... Generally in a restaurant, and often for 45 minutes. That wouldn't not affect me too much at all. The two hours in the jump seat being off duty time should help some of you.
__________________
( R E T I R E D , and glad of it)
YES ! ! ! There is life after trucking.
a GOOD life

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-23-2011, 09:40 AM
Malaki86's Avatar
Senior Board Member
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mannington, WV
Posts: 4,482
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

I don't like the 30-minute break thing. When I start my day, I like to run hard and then get my dinner and such. The 34hr thing won't bother me either, since I generally don't do 34's on the road anyway.
__________________
My facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/malaki86
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-25-2011, 12:18 AM
repete's Avatar
Senior Board Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Somewhere between Rochester NY and Gaults' Gulch
Posts: 2,698
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

That 34 reset once aweek might screw me up, what's the big deal if you do a 34 every 5 days?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-25-2011, 03:06 AM
Windwalker's Avatar
Board Icon
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Been there and gone...
Posts: 6,412
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malaki86 View Post
I don't like the 30-minute break thing. When I start my day, I like to run hard and then get my dinner and such. The 34hr thing won't bother me either, since I generally don't do 34's on the road anyway.
I did a whole lot of "run full out" until my driving time was up. But there were also many times I did take a break. Thinking back, I don't know if it's all that bad an idea to take a break. I know there were times when that was not convenient, and I doubt that's changed much, if any.
__________________
( R E T I R E D , and glad of it)
YES ! ! ! There is life after trucking.
a GOOD life

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-25-2011, 03:30 AM
GMAN's Avatar
Administrator
Site Admin
Board Icon
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 17,097
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

I know that it is too much to ask, but it would be much better if the feds and all these special interest groups would leave drivers to decide when they can work or run and when they need to rest. It should also be up to the driver when they need to do a reset. It will be interesting to see who files the first lawsuit.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-25-2011, 06:55 AM
golfhobo's Avatar
Board Icon
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: the 19th hole / NC
Posts: 9,647
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malaki86 View Post
I don't like the 30-minute break thing. When I start my day, I like to run hard and then get my dinner and such. The 34hr thing won't bother me either, since I generally don't do 34's on the road anyway.
No offense intended to YOU, but... there are too many out there that get a bit sleepy and sloppy on those "hard runs" of 11 hours straight without getting out of the seat... especially at 4 a.m. Make 'em get out of the truck for 30 mins... slap some cold water on their face and get some coffee or a bite to eat... maybe even FORCE them all to play a video game... and I'll be MUCH relieved out there on the road.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-25-2011, 07:11 AM
golfhobo's Avatar
Board Icon
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: the 19th hole / NC
Posts: 9,647
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

I think I LOVE it. Haven't digested it all yet, but got the gist of it. Proves my point to the Rev that time spent "on the truck" but not in the sleeper should be considered OFF duty if the truck is parked... AND (for teams) if the truck is moving.

A mandatory 30 minute break is GOOD for safety, and EASILY managed in most logging systems.

I can't see where the 1-5 a.m restriction should affect anyone who is actually taking his 34 hr. restart. Please consider that these required times will be on your LOGBOOK times... not your pickup and delivery times in other parts of the country. A guy logging on east coast times will have to plan for a restart that allows him to make a pickup at maybe 5:30 a.m. But, if he's on the west coast, that will be at 2:30 a.m. I don't see how anyone CAN'T get a 34 hr restart and still make an early morning pickup... even on the east coast.

If OBAMA can get this passed... no reduction to 10 hours driving. No change to the duty window... MADD loses and Obama and truckers WIN!

Don't shoot a gift horse in the mouth just cuz he looks like a Donkey!
__________________
Remember... friends are few and far between.

TRUCKIN' AIN'T FOR WUSSES!!!

"I am willing to admit that I was wrong." The Rev.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-25-2011, 11:05 AM
Malaki86's Avatar
Senior Board Member
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mannington, WV
Posts: 4,482
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by golfhobo View Post
No offense intended to YOU, but... there are too many out there that get a bit sleepy and sloppy on those "hard runs" of 11 hours straight without getting out of the seat... especially at 4 a.m. Make 'em get out of the truck for 30 mins... slap some cold water on their face and get some coffee or a bite to eat... maybe even FORCE them all to play a video game... and I'll be MUCH relieved out there on the road.
Ok - so, how good is this going to work when you're needing to take a 30 minute break driving anywhere in the northeast at, say, 2am? I can see the fuel islands backing up for miles now.
__________________
My facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/malaki86
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-25-2011, 12:22 PM
Mystikal's Avatar
Board Regular
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 221
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by golfhobo View Post
I can't see where the 1-5 a.m restriction should affect anyone who is actually taking his 34 hr. restart. Please consider that these required times will be on your LOGBOOK times... not your pickup and delivery times in other parts of the country. A guy logging on east coast times will have to plan for a restart that allows him to make a pickup at maybe 5:30 a.m. But, if he's on the west coast, that will be at 2:30 a.m. I don't see how anyone CAN'T get a 34 hr restart and still make an early morning pickup... even on the east coast.
How about those that are on the west coast time for logging and have a 530a pick up time in the east... which is 330a, or even 230a in MST or PST? It works good for east coasters on the west but not really vice versa. I only bring it up 'cuz i'm based out of Denver and we go to the east quite a bit... this could potentially hurt drivers in the same boat... unless I missed something!?!
Reply With Quote
Reply






Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 03:59 AM.


User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.