New Hours of Service

[Fozzy]

A new HOS rule issued by the Obama Administration should include the following basic safety parameters:

• 24-hour circadian schedule

• Lower daily driving and work time limits

• Lower weekly driving and work time maximums

• Increased daily off-duty time, including in sleeper berths

• Increased end-of-week rest time

• Recognition of safety hazards of night-time driving

• Universal Electronic On-Board Recorder (EOBR) requirement

Daily Shift Drive Time Maximum:
No more than 8 consecutive hours of driving per shift, based on extensive research findings that show dramatic increase in relative risk of crashes after 8 consecutive hours of driving.

Daily Shift Work Time Maximum:
12 hour work shift; 8 hours of driving, and 4 hours of other work and \ or rest breaks as the driver chooses

Daily Shift Off-Duty Time Maximum:
General rule:
12 hours of consecutive off-duty rest time to ensure minimum of 7-8 hours of sleep each night that research shows is needed to perform safely, and allow time for drivers to perform other daily non-work tasks

Sleeper Berth:
More than 8 continuous hours to ensure minimum of 7-8 hours of sleep each night that research shows is needed to expunge sleep debt and recover safe performance

Weekly Total Driving Time Maximum:
Maximum 40 hours 7 days

Weekly Total Work Time Maximum:
Maximum 60 hours in 7 days

End of Week Off-duty Time Minimum:
Minimum 48-hour off duty layover before starting another tour of duty

Source: Regulations.gov

[Malaki86]

All I know is that if that BS goes through (or anything similar), and our pay doesn't go up to make up for it, I'm done driving OTR - Period.

[Scoe]

WOW!! Now that IS change. It will be interesting to see how much of that becomes regulation.

[GMAN]

The last thing we need are more regulations and shorter work days. I suppose they could start bringing in workers from India, Mexico, etc., Oh wait, they are already doing that. 10 hours is way too much for me to take in the sleeper berth. I do just fine with 5-6 hours sleep. It is bad enough with 10 hours, now they want to add another 2 hours? They already complain about too many trucks on the road now they want to force all trucks to drive during daylight hours which is when most traffic is on the road. Then they want to reduce work time which will require more trucks to meet customer demands. Yea.....that is going to work.

[chain binder]

If the government passes all of the regulations,then the government better build more places for trucks to park.

[GMAN]

If the government passes all of the regulations,then the government better build more places for trucks to park.

They better prepare for a lot of freight to NOT get hauled, especially JIT freight. I find it strange that they will suspend the hos rules during a hurricane and that is safe yet they want to impose more rules to prevent us from driving at other times.

[Ronin]

More proof FMCSA is run by a bunch of pencil pushing idiots.

[repete]

Price of every thing will go way up, way to kill an economy, but some time's it just seems that what they want.

[Rev.]

Price of every thing will go way up, way to kill an economy, but some time's it just seems that what they want.

Not really. For the most part, shipping is only a fraction of the total cost of the goods you buy in the store. Do the math (not trucker's math either). Take the rate a load hauls for, and divide it by the amount of product in the load. For the products on store shelves, this usually only amounts to a few pennies per item. If that.

[Mystikal]

It'll be interesting to see how this affects team operations as well... would suck to keep a team from moving 4 hours a day because of reduced drive time and increased break time.

[mitchno1]

in new zealand we allowed 13 hours driving plus half hour rest every 5 1/2 hrs 14hrs total then 10hrs rest 70 hrs driving then 24hrs off .max weight without permit 45.5tonnes round 20 bucks hr .smokes $15 for 30 .beer $1 or so a can

[golfhobo]

I am not saying that Fozzy didn't read this somewhere. And I am not looking for a fight. But, has ANYONE clicked on his "source" link? I have... and there is no "there" there.

I haven't checked any of my trucker mag online websites, but I found NOTHING like this anywhere on the FMCSA site, and there is NOTHING in the "comment" document submitted by a Mr. Jasny that I found using Fozzy's link.

What I DID find was very interesting. It seems that under the Obama administration, and as a result of the continuous lawsuits by "concerned citizens, et al.," additional listening sessions were opened (though expired now) to get comments from truckers and others about how to construct a fair HOS that perhaps we could actually make into a Final Ruling.

The questions asked (by our government) showed... to me.... a willingness to explore some of the VERY ideas and concerns I've seen expressed here on CAD everytime this question comes up.

You should read the background info and questions at the following link:

Hours of Service - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

(oh... and you should stop assuming the worst from the Obama administration! he he....}

[Ronin]

I will always assume anyone who toys with regs is a complete idiot until proven otherwise. Bad enough we have CSA 2010 about to go into effect. This is the last thing this industry needs right now.

[Jackrabbit379]

Weekly Total Driving Time Maximum:
Maximum 40 hours 7 days

Weekly Total Work Time Maximum:
Maximum 60 hours in 7 days

End of Week Off-duty Time Minimum:
Minimum 48-hour off duty layover before starting another tour of duty

If this is really gonna happen, lots of trucks will be sitting. There will be more trucks than you can shake a stick at everywhere!

[GMAN]

If this is really gonna happen, lots of trucks will be sitting. There will be more trucks than you can shake a stick at everywhere!

These people need to justify a driver shortage somehow. By taking trucks off the road that is a sure way to have a shortage.

I don't think these rules will go into effect. They are unworkable.

[Jackrabbit379]

Yeah. You might as well be local.

[shyykatt]

If they really want big trucks off the roads, then maybe they can go back to the old ways of freightin', horses & buckboard wagons~ then I would be rich! lol

[repete]

Not really. For the most part, shipping is only a fraction of the total cost of the goods you buy in the store. Do the math (not trucker's math either). Take the rate a load hauls for, and divide it by the amount of product in the load. For the products on store shelves, this usually only amounts to a few pennies per item. If that.

I think it would go up alot more than a little.In my case I do a dedicated JIT run and it takes a solid 10 hrs driving. The product is ordered and is sitting on their dock hrs later, if drive time is cut to say 8 hrs then I would need a relief driver with another truck (or team, NOT) That just raised shipping cost by almost double, and NO I'm not takeing a cut in pay to help cover the cost of another driver.

[repete]

I am not saying that Fozzy didn't read this somewhere. And I am not looking for a fight. But, has ANYONE clicked on his "source" link? I have... and there is no "there" there.

I haven't checked any of my trucker mag online websites, but I found NOTHING like this anywhere on the FMCSA site, and there is NOTHING in the "comment" document submitted by a Mr. Jasny that I found using Fozzy's link.

What I DID find was very interesting. It seems that under the Obama administration, and as a result of the continuous lawsuits by "concerned citizens, et al.," additional listening sessions were opened (though expired now) to get comments from truckers and others about how to construct a fair HOS that perhaps we could actually make into a Final Ruling.

The questions asked (by our government) showed... to me.... a willingness to explore some of the VERY ideas and concerns I've seen expressed here on CAD everytime this question comes up.

You should read the background info and questions at the following link:

Hours of Service - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

(oh... and you should stop assuming the worst from the Obama administration! he he....}

Of course it wasn't "there" you missed it by the time you looked it was here but don't bother looking here either cause by now it's gone some where else!

[Musicman]

Not really. For the most part, shipping is only a fraction of the total cost of the goods you buy in the store. Do the math (not trucker's math either). Take the rate a load hauls for, and divide it by the amount of product in the load. For the products on store shelves, this usually only amounts to a few pennies per item. If that.

Depends on how big each item is. Look at the cost per unit to haul a load of big-screen televisions versus a load of aspirin.