[mitchno1]

in new zealand we allowed 13 hours driving plus half hour rest every 5 1/2 hrs 14hrs total then 10hrs rest 70 hrs driving then 24hrs off .max weight without permit 45.5tonnes round 20 bucks hr .smokes $15 for 30 .beer $1 or so a can

[golfhobo]

I am not saying that Fozzy didn't read this somewhere. And I am not looking for a fight. But, has ANYONE clicked on his "source" link? I have... and there is no "there" there.

I haven't checked any of my trucker mag online websites, but I found NOTHING like this anywhere on the FMCSA site, and there is NOTHING in the "comment" document submitted by a Mr. Jasny that I found using Fozzy's link.

What I DID find was very interesting. It seems that under the Obama administration, and as a result of the continuous lawsuits by "concerned citizens, et al.," additional listening sessions were opened (though expired now) to get comments from truckers and others about how to construct a fair HOS that perhaps we could actually make into a Final Ruling.

The questions asked (by our government) showed... to me.... a willingness to explore some of the VERY ideas and concerns I've seen expressed here on CAD everytime this question comes up.

You should read the background info and questions at the following link:

Hours of Service - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

(oh... and you should stop assuming the worst from the Obama administration! he he....}

[Ronin]

I will always assume anyone who toys with regs is a complete idiot until proven otherwise. Bad enough we have CSA 2010 about to go into effect. This is the last thing this industry needs right now.

[Jackrabbit379]

Originally Posted by Fozzy

Weekly Total Driving Time Maximum:
Maximum 40 hours 7 days

Weekly Total Work Time Maximum:
Maximum 60 hours in 7 days

End of Week Off-duty Time Minimum:
Minimum 48-hour off duty layover before starting another tour of duty

:hellno:
If this is really gonna happen, lots of trucks will be sitting. There will be more trucks than you can shake a stick at everywhere!

[GMAN]

Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379

:hellno:
If this is really gonna happen, lots of trucks will be sitting. There will be more trucks than you can shake a stick at everywhere!

These people need to justify a driver shortage somehow. By taking trucks off the road that is a sure way to have a shortage. :roll:

I don't think these rules will go into effect. They are unworkable.

[Jackrabbit379]

Yeah. You might as well be local. :lol: :hellno:

[shyykatt]

If they really want big trucks off the roads, then maybe they can go back to the old ways of freightin', horses & buckboard wagons~ then I would be rich! lol

[repete]

Originally Posted by Rev.

Not really. For the most part, shipping is only a fraction of the total cost of the goods you buy in the store. Do the math (not trucker's math either). Take the rate a load hauls for, and divide it by the amount of product in the load. For the products on store shelves, this usually only amounts to a few pennies per item. If that.

I think it would go up alot more than a little.In my case I do a dedicated JIT run and it takes a solid 10 hrs driving. The product is ordered and is sitting on their dock hrs later, if drive time is cut to say 8 hrs then I would need a relief driver with another truck (or team, NOT) That just raised shipping cost by almost double, and NO I'm not takeing a cut in pay to help cover the cost of another driver.

[repete]

Originally Posted by golfhobo

I am not saying that Fozzy didn't read this somewhere. And I am not looking for a fight. But, has ANYONE clicked on his "source" link? I have... and there is no "there" there.

I haven't checked any of my trucker mag online websites, but I found NOTHING like this anywhere on the FMCSA site, and there is NOTHING in the "comment" document submitted by a Mr. Jasny that I found using Fozzy's link.

What I DID find was very interesting. It seems that under the Obama administration, and as a result of the continuous lawsuits by "concerned citizens, et al.," additional listening sessions were opened (though expired now) to get comments from truckers and others about how to construct a fair HOS that perhaps we could actually make into a Final Ruling.

The questions asked (by our government) showed... to me.... a willingness to explore some of the VERY ideas and concerns I've seen expressed here on CAD everytime this question comes up.

You should read the background info and questions at the following link:

Hours of Service - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

(oh... and you should stop assuming the worst from the Obama administration! he he....}

Of course it wasn't "there" you missed it by the time you looked it was here but don't bother looking here either cause by now it's gone some where else!

[Musicman]

Originally Posted by Rev.

Not really. For the most part, shipping is only a fraction of the total cost of the goods you buy in the store. Do the math (not trucker's math either). Take the rate a load hauls for, and divide it by the amount of product in the load. For the products on store shelves, this usually only amounts to a few pennies per item. If that.

Depends on how big each item is. Look at the cost per unit to haul a load of big-screen televisions versus a load of aspirin.