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Originally Posted by LightsChromeHorsepower
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As much as I appreciate your thought and effort, LCH.... apparently, you didn't realize that I was being sarcastic. :roll:
I have NEVER had any problem with split-logging, and in fact, am well known here for MY explanations of it. But, I'll check your link. Always interested if someone can explain if more simply than me. But, I doubt it.
My reply to GMAN was to get him to further incriminate himself. His original post had a minor error, and I knew he would make it worse if he "elaborated."
It's not that I WANTED him to make it worse. I just KNEW he would.... and he DID!
Split logging is apparently difficult for MOST truckers, and is misunderstood by many. Furthermore, it is mis-Explained by many oithers. These miscomprehensions (like the Rev used to do) can lead to drivers getting expensive tickets and/or OOS violations.
Let's look at what GMAN said after I asked him to explain:
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You must take a 10 hour break before driving past the 11 driving or 14 total on duty.
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This is a bit confused, but basically is true.
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For instance, if you drive for 10 hours and take a 8 hour break then drive 2 hours you will be in violation since you have not taken your entire 10 hour break.
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Thix ALSO is true, since you cannot drive 12 hours without fullfilling the requirements.
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However, if you drive 10 hours, go into the sleeper for 8 hours you can only drive 1 more hour before having to stop to take the 2 hour minimum rest break.
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He is ABSOLUTELY correct here, although WHO would DO IT that way?
Once you take the 2 hours you have completed your 10 hour sleeper berth requirement and you now have 11 hours of driving time again.
THIS is where he got confused, and gave bad info to other truckers who come here for advice. That ONE HOUR of driving before the 2 hour break counts against your 11 AND your 14. At this point, you have ONLY 10 more hours of driving before you must take the other 8 hour S/B break.... and the 14 hour clock started at the END of the previous 8 hour break! In other words.... you have NOT completed your "10 hour requirement" at ONE TIME.... your are SPLITTING!
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ONLY 10 more hours of driving before taking your 8 hour S/B again. GMAN is wrong here.... and if you follow his advice, it could cost you alot of money!
The important thing here is NOT "who" can give you logging advice, but who can give you the CORRECT logging advice. Mistakes cost MONEY in this business.
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You cannot go past the 11 hours driving or 14 hours on duty before taking the entire 10 hour sleeper berth break, whether you split it or not.
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I really have NO IDEA what he is trying to say here, but.... I'm pretty sure it is WRONG. There is no such requirement ANYWHERE in the regs for an "entire 10 hours in the sleeper berth!" :eek2::hellno:
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Some carriers want drivers to take the complete 10 hour break to avoid them being in violation.
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Sadly, these carriers are smart enough to know that the average driver is NOT smart enough to understand the regs.... so, play it safe. DON'T allow them to utilize a ruling that could HELP them.... cuz MOST of them can't figure it out, and it will only cost the company AND THE DRIVER money! :hellno:
Sad state of affairs, if you ask me. I have TRIED. And I am growing weary.