Newbie question to laugh at.

[Ford390pwr]

So even though I have never been in a truck before, I understand how important it is to run legal and keep your logs straight. That is all I know, now are there companies that will make you run illegally? How would one keep two logbooks, and is this something that is commonly done with the training companies?

[Fredog]

So even though I have never been in a truck before, I understand how important it is to run legal and keep your logs straight. That is all I know, now are there companies that will make you run illegally? How would one keep two logbooks, and is this something that is commonly done with the training companies?

if a company wants you to run illegally, run far far away, when something happens, YOU will be the one going to jail

[Double R]

So even though I have never been in a truck before, I understand how important it is to run legal and keep your logs straight. That is all I know, now are there companies that will make you run illegally? How would one keep two logbooks, and is this something that is commonly done with the training companies?

What's a log book?

[golfhobo]

What's a log book?

Something used by REAL truck drivers!

Sorry, D/R.... just couldn't resist!

[matcat]

The practice of double log booking is really quite rare. Especially in this day and age of qualcomms and companies matching your logs to it as well as fuel purchases, tolls, etc. No any larger training company is not going to do it, or make you run illegal.

The actual practice of keeping double logbooks is just the concept of logging what your doing twice, with offset time frames.

Most companies are not going to try to run you 20 hours a day :P However there are times when even the largest companies will look the other way for a few hours, but it isn't common, and it is ultimately up to you, as any consequences will fall on you.

[Skywalker]

if a company wants you to run illegally, run far far away, when something happens, YOU will be the one going to jail

Yep....run, run, run far away...

Not only would you face jail, but if you are involved in an accident, you will face a lifetime of paying of court settlements and lawsuits....

Considering the fact that logbook violation tickets can run over $1000.00 an incident, one screwup can wipe out a weeks wages or more.....

[Double R]

Something used by REAL truck drivers!

Sorry, D/R.... just couldn't resist!

[Biscuit Lips]

So even though I have never been in a truck before, I understand how important it is to run legal and keep your logs straight. That is all I know, now are there companies that will make you run illegally? How would one keep two logbooks, and is this something that is commonly done with the training companies?

I do not believe there are many trucking companies that will "force" you to violate the hours of service, but many will strongly encourage you to do so to get freight to a designated location within the alloted time set forth by the shipper/consignee. A company forcing you to violate the H.O.S might bring upon legal ramifications for the carrier, so instead many will just turn a blind eye to the these actions and give the driver enough rope to hang himself. In the end, it is ultimately the driver's responsibility to operate his/her vehicle in a safe manner and in accordance with all applicable laws and regulations.

On another note, I have no idea how to run dual logbooks. It just sounds like a tremendous hassle anyhow. If someone was just starting their driving career it would be in their best interest to run completely legal, as said above.

[Jumbo]

Some guys have claimed to have been running 3 logs at the same time. Too much thinking for me.

[matcat]

Some guys have claimed to have been running 3 logs at the same time. Too much thinking for me.

I run five!

[Biscuit Lips]

I run five!

I could barely keep up with one. Had one job where I would fill out the logbook once a week on the weekends and was, consequently, stopped in Wisconsin by the State Police and it cost me nearly $500.00.

[DaveP]

I could barely keep up with one. Had one job where I would fill out the logbook once a week on the weekends and was, consequently, stopped in Wisconsin by the State Police and it cost me nearly $500.00.

That's a bargain.

PA cost me $680 once. (Keyword: once.)

[devildice]

if a company wants you to run illegally, run far far away, when something happens, YOU will be the one going to jail

I agree 110%. Besides, there are NO loads worth putting your CDL and career on the line for.

[Fancy_Maneuvers]

Some guys have claimed to have been running 3 logs at the same time. Too much thinking for me.

Jumbo, you and I are on the same page

I hate thinking long enough to fill out ONE log book!

[matcat]

Log book really is quite easy. First off, if you log it as you do it, it is as easy as pie, you don't have to try to remember anything .

[Fredog]

Log book really is quite easy. First off, if you log it as you do it, it is as easy as pie, you don't have to try to remember anything .

unless you do it wrong, then you are in trouble

[matcat]

unless you do it wrong, then you are in trouble

NAh if I do it wrong I just take that particular loose leaf out, and do it over

[Malaki86]

Simple solution: Laptop + inkjet printer + Drivers Daily Log = ahhhhhhhh

DOT loves it, logs are a piece of cake and if your company accepts it, they love it too.

[GTR SILVER]

have fun.... Hours-of-Service Logbook Examples - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

[matcat]

I refuse to pay for such an UN-user friendly program. I have been working on programming my own, I should finish it.