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    Default Logging Natural Disasters

    Whats the logging situation for naturals disasters? I have a friend of mine who has been asked to make an emergency run From MN to IA and back to ND with a load of sand bags. I know in some cases if its a "National emergency" the log book is "thrown out". Do you have to have documentation other than the BOL to do this? Whats the FMCSR regs on this situation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cueball View Post
    Whats the logging situation for naturals disasters? I have a friend of mine who has been asked to make an emergency run From MN to IA and back to ND with a load of sand bags. I know in some cases if its a "National emergency" the log book is "thrown out". Do you have to have documentation other than the BOL to do this? Whats the FMCSR regs on this situation?
    An Emergency Proclomation has to be made by the President, then FMCSA must suspend HOS regulations for those whom are directly involved in responding to the situation. Usually those trucks are given FEMA paperwork which proves their status.

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    That's what I had remembered but I wanted to double check. The company he drives for is notorious for running there drivers hard ( illegal). I used to drive for them a couple of years ago and left when they really started to push there drivers to run illegal. They will tell there drivers anything to put bucks in their pockets. They have been audited several times and somehow come out ok.

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    As far as I know, in disaster relief, you throw the log book out the winder.
    That's a bad deal up there. I've got a cousin that lives in Grand Forks.
    That's the other Red River. Funny thing. That Red River flows north.

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    We delivered some generators after the last hurricane hit Texas. If I remember correctly we had a letter that stated we were doing disaster relief. A year or two ago we hauled some disaster relief supplies in Washington after some flooding. They allowed us to take a shorter route in order to deliver sooner. The government will relax rules when it is in their best interest to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379 View Post
    As far as I know, in disaster relief, you throw the log book out the winder.
    That's a bad deal up there. I've got a cousin that lives in Grand Forks.
    That's the other Red River. Funny thing. That Red River flows north.
    Yeah...it has to go north...before it can head south! Just one more tributary of the Missouri!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangetxguy View Post
    Yeah...it has to go north...before it can head south! Just one more tributary of the Missouri!
    Actually, not. I heard that it empties into Lake Winnipeg in Canada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379 View Post
    As far as I know, in disaster relief, you throw the log book out the winder . .
    I'm pretty sure you're right on the money but I'm still a little confused . . do you log the disaster, then chuck the log or do you chuck the log and then log on the next page?

    If you use the discarded log to plug a dyke, which line would you record that on?

    In the event of a roundtrip scenario, as stated above, are you throwing out two logs or four?

    What is the carbon footprint of a discarded log?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdswans View Post
    I'm pretty sure you're right on the money but I'm still a little confused . . do you log the disaster, then chuck the log or do you chuck the log and then log on the next page?
    I believe you still log it as you do it, but note that it is "DISASTER RELIEF".

    Quote Originally Posted by cdswans View Post
    If you use the discarded log to plug a dyke, which line would you record that on?
    If it only takes one finger to plug the hole in the dyke... You use one page. If it takes more than that, you use the whole book.

    Quote Originally Posted by cdswans View Post
    In the event of a roundtrip scenario, as stated above, are you throwing out two logs or four?

    What is the carbon footprint of a discarded log?
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    And here it is!

    http://www.landlinemag.com/todays_ne.../032709-03.htm

    March 27, 2009

    North Dakota, Minnesota suspend rules for truckers providing relief efforts
    With the widespread flooding the governors of both North Dakota and Minnesota have temporarily suspended various trucking regulations for truckers providing relief efforts.
    North Dakota Gov. John Hoeven waived the hours-of-service requirements for trucks and buses providing relief supplies or transporting people to or from the flooded areas.
    Click here to see the full North Dakota waiver.
    In Minnesota, Gov. Tim Pawlenty waived hours of service regs, weight restrictions and various required permits for motor carriers hauling relief supplies to flooded areas of the state.
    Click here to see the full Minnesota waiver.
    Now....those "declaration's" only cover trucks that are operating in each of those states. For trucks to travel "Interstate" under such a declaration, President Obama will have to make such a "declaration".
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