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  1. 03-17-2009 09:02 PM #1
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    Default Logbook/time off at home..

    Had a question about hometime, well freights slow, I been home for about 2 weeks now and was wondering when I do get back on the road and update my log book, is there a restriction on how many days you can put off duty on (1) log book page. I know I have to put an "X" in the box for consecutive days off but can I fill out 1 log book page for being off for 2+ weeks or do I fill out 1 page for just a couple days off??? Thanks all.
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    You can do as many days off duty on one page as you'd like. I'd recommend, however, that if your off duty time falls over a month change, to split it up by month. It isn't a FMCSA requirement however.

    395.8 (f)(10) Recording days off duty. Two or more consecutive 24-hour periods off duty may be recorded on one duty status record.
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    I don't crossover into the new month on an off duty log. I start a new off duty log for the 1st of the month.
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    X2 on the single month at a time off duty.

    ie: run your off duty through the last day of the month, and start and new month if you plan to go on duty towards the end of the first week of the month after you come mon duty.

    I know this...my "home time" is usually a week or two (sometimes) after out 3 months.
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    I can see how it would be nice and tidy to keep your logbooks equal to the full month, but here's something to consider:

    Say you are off for two weeks ending on the 3rd of this month. Since you must carry the previous 7 days logs with you, UNLESS you use loose leaf logs you will need to carry the entire last month's logbook with you. If you get pulled for an inspection, they can (not necessarily WILL) check for mistakes on ANY day during that entire last month. This could cost you money that you had otherwise escaped getting caught on.

    Personally, if I'd been off that long, I would leave home with ONE logbook that shows that I'd been off for AT LEAST the last 7 days (maybe, even the whole break time.) That way I can leave last month's logbook at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfhobo View Post
    I can see how it would be nice and tidy to keep your logbooks equal to the full month, but here's something to consider:

    Say you are off for two weeks ending on the 3rd of this month. Since you must carry the previous 7 days logs with you, UNLESS you use loose leaf logs you will need to carry the entire last month's logbook with you. If you get pulled for an inspection, they can (not necessarily WILL) check for mistakes on ANY day during that entire last month. This could cost you money that you had otherwise escaped getting caught on.
    Do you have such little faith in your ability to legally log?
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    Rev, I have very little faith in my logging abilities

    I also have little faith that my company will note the entry of that much time off logged on one sheet. I tried it ONE time; never *ever* again... They quipped, "You're missing logs..." So, now I meticulously fill out one sheet/day and leave it at that. I even take my little log book with me while I'm on vacation so I won't have to fill all of those days out once I return to work..

    Ok, I admit that is a little pathetic..

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    You have to consider what the company wants too, Crete wants a page filled for every day on or off duty. If your off more than 1 month then you can put a month on one page. Guess that means I"m supposed to go line 4 on duty for 15 min. every day to fill out my log LOL yeah thats gonna happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by repete View Post
    Guess that means I"m supposed to go line 4 on duty for 15 min. every day to fill out my log
    Why? Does it take you 15 minutes to draw one line?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago View Post
    Why? Does it take you 15 minutes to draw one line?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago View Post
    Why? Does it take you 15 minutes to draw one line?
    That's to factor in the chance you are in California during an earth quake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago View Post
    Why? Does it take you 15 minutes to draw one line?
    What IS this "magic" 15 minute reg, REV? There's NO SUCH thing! The regs say (paraphrased) that CHANGES OF DUTY STATUS that take less than 15 minutes may be flagged and ENTERED into the comments (along with the TIME spent.) It does NOT say that the time doesn't COUNT as being on duty. And it does NOT say that it is NOT a change of duty. (which is why you can't just FLAG your entry through the cab to get to your sleeper.)

    BTW... the answer to repete's "question" would be to spend whatever time on line 4 that would be required to log EACH and every day's page, ALL at one time on the day he returns to work. The company didn't SAY he had to fill out a log EVERY day. They said he had to fill out a separate logsheet FOR every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by golfhobo View Post
    It does NOT say that the time doesn't COUNT as being on duty. And it does NOT say that it is NOT a change of duty.
    Actually, that's exactly what it says. That short periods of duty status change (less than 15 minutes) do not need to be logged as a duty status change. They simply need to be flagged with the amount of time recorded in the comments section of the log. And since the log book goes by 15 minute increments, such flagging will not be recorded in the total time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago View Post
    Actually, that's exactly what it says. That short periods of duty status change (less than 15 minutes) do not need to be logged as a duty status change. They simply need to be flagged with the amount of time recorded in the comments section of the log. And since the log book goes by 15 minute increments, such flagging will not be recorded in the total time.

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    I LOVE my lose leaf logs! Make a... Mistake, just rip it out and start over, don't like how it looks, rip it out and start over, only carry the last 7 days, EASY!

    When I was with the big evil swift they required you to log every day separately, even though their logs had the consequtive days off box.

    The lose leafs I use don't even have a consequtive days off box!
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    Quote Originally Posted by golfhobo View Post
    I can see how it would be nice and tidy to keep your logbooks equal to the full month, but here's something to consider:

    Say you are off for two weeks ending on the 3rd of this month. Since you must carry the previous 7 days logs with you, UNLESS you use loose leaf logs you will need to carry the entire last month's logbook with you. If you get pulled for an inspection, they can (not necessarily WILL) check for mistakes on ANY day during that entire last month. This could cost you money that you had otherwise escaped getting caught on.

    Personally, if I'd been off that long, I would leave home with ONE logbook that shows that I'd been off for AT LEAST the last 7 days (maybe, even the whole break time.) That way I can leave last month's logbook at home.

    Just a thought.
    Exactly why I won't use anything BUT loose leaf logs. I can take logs older than 8 days out of the binder I use and stash them.
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