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    I hear that it's impossible for a company driver to average 7000 miles per week averaging over 2000 dollars a week

    so I want to know is there a way to run your book to get more mile so that you can make more money

    now the reason i am asking 1 need more money and 2 my cousin maid 1500usd one week so its not too far to get the rest

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    Truck governed at 65 mph...
    Average speed, 62 mph

    70 (hours in 8 days) / 8 days = 8.75 hours a day

    Fueling, pretrip, post trip = .75 hours a day

    8 X 62 = 496 miles a day

    496 X .40 per mile = $198.40 a day

    $198.40 a day X 7 days = $1388.80 a week.

    Now, if you use the 34 hour reset every week, you can not work a full 7 day week. Not even 6. Without cutting off the time for fueling, pretrip, and post trip, by only being able to drive 66 hours a week, you've got $1636.80 per week. Don't know how you plan to get the rest. Of course, this is based on a meager $0.40/mile. How much do you get? Plug yours in and see what you get.
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    $2000/7000 miles=.28 per mile. And you want to 7000 per week as a company driver? Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumbo View Post
    $2000/7000 miles=.28 per mile. And you want to 7000 per week as a company driver? Good luck!
    That would mean running an AVERAGE of 106 miles an hour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windwalker View Post
    That would mean running an AVERAGE of 106 miles an hour.

    well he did have 9 points on his license......
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike3fan View Post
    well he did have 9 points on his license......


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    This thread has to be a joke. A lot of teams do not get 7000 mile per week. This should be moved to the comedy section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windwalker View Post

    Now, if you use the 34 hour reset every week, you can not work a full 7 day week. Not even 6. Without cutting off the time for fueling, pretrip, and post trip, by only being able to drive 66 hours a week, you've got $1636.80 per week.
    Actually, if you run your butt off, never stop to load or unload, fueled when you did a PTI, and averaged 62 mph:

    Monday:
    PTI FROM 12:00 - 12:15
    DRIVING 12:15 - 11:15 am
    PTI 11:15 - 11:30
    SLEEPER BERTH 11:30 - 9:30
    PTI 9:30 - 9:45
    DRIVE 9:45 - 12:00

    TOTAL ON DUTY TIME: 14 HOURS
    TOTAL DRIVING TIME: 13.25 HOURS

    TUESDAY:
    DRIVE 12:00 - 8:30
    PTI 8:30 - 8:45
    SLEEPER BERTH 8:45 - 6:45
    PTI 6:45 - 7:00
    DRIVE 7:00 - 12:00

    TOTAL ON DUTY TIME: 14 HOURS
    TOTAL DRIVING TIME: 13.5 HOURS

    WEDNESDAY:
    DRIVE 12:00 - 5:00
    PTI 5:00 - 5:15
    SLEEPER BERTH 5:15 - 3:15
    PTI 3:15 - 3:30
    DRIVE 3:30 - 12:00

    TOTAL ON DUTY TIME: 14 HOURS
    TOTAL DRIVING TIME: 13.5 HOURS

    THURSDAY:
    DRIVE 12:00 - 2:30
    PTI 2:30 - 2:45
    SLEEPER BERTH 2:45 - 12:45
    PTI 12:45 - 1:00
    DRIVE 1:00 - 12:00

    TOTAL ON DUTY TIME: 14 HOURS
    TOTAL DRIVING TIME: 13.5 HOURS

    FRIDAY:
    PTI 12:00 - 12:15
    SLEEPER BERTH 12:15 - 10:15
    PTI 10:15 - 10:30
    DRIVE 10:30 - 9:30
    PTI 9:30 - 9:45
    SLEEPER BERTH 9:45 - 12:00

    TOTAL ON DUTY TIME: 11.75 HOURS
    TOTAL DRIVING TIME: 11 HOURS

    SATURDAY:

    SLEEPER BERTH 12:00 - 7:45
    PTI 7:45 - 8:00
    DRIVE 8:00 - 10:00
    PTI 10:00 - 10:15
    BEGIN 34 HOUR RESET

    TOTAL ON DUTY TIME: 2.5 HOURS
    TOTAL DRIVING TIME: 2 HOURS

    SUNDAY:

    PTI: 8:15 PM - 8:30
    DRIVE 8:30 - 12:00

    TOTAL ON DUTY TIME: 3.75 HOURS
    TOTAL DRIVING TIME: 3.5 HOURS

    TOTAL ON DUTY TIME FOR PAST 7 DAYS: 74 HOURS
    TOTAL DRIVING TIME FOR PAST 7 DAYS: 70.25 HOURS

    70.25 HOURS x 62 MPH = 4355.5 MILES x 0.40 PER MILE = $1742.20

    Now good luck finding a carrier who doesn't want you to load or unload, but rather just drive around.

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    Okay, Dobry... you forced me to do the math, so here it is. Windy was getting CLOSE when he changed from wussy trucking at 8.75 hours/day to supertrucking and using the 34 hour reset.

    Now, it is impossible to get 7000 miles a week no matter WHAT you do. But, 2 grand can be done easily with 2 days off every week... hypothetically speaking.

    Let's say you have one of those cushy linehaul drop 'n hook runs like say.... HOBO! And you have a fast truck and run out West like Hobo USED to do! And you make 50cpm like say.... Snowman!!

    You must have a run of more or less exactly 660 miles one way, and when you get there, you D&H and fuel and return (after taking 10 off.)

    I can fuel and D&H in 45 minutes, and twice a week, I could shave 15 minutes off that because my truck will go about 1000 miles on a tank of fuel.

    Starting at 7 a.m on Monday morning, I average 60 mph for 11 hours (660 miles) and spend 45 minutes a day on pretrip, D&H and fueling. Then I take 10 off and make the return trip. That's 21.75 hours per leg. I can do 6 legs (3 round trips) in 70 WORK hours (if I shave .5 hours by not fueling each leg.) [6 X 11.75 = 70.5]

    That's 6 legs X 660 miles (averaging only 60 mph,) or 3960 miles/wk.

    6 legs @ 21.75 hours each = 130.5 hours (then subtract the half hour per above.)

    Now, subtract the final 10 hour break, as it is part of my weekend after finishing the last "return" leg to home base, leaving me with 120 hours to make 6 runs.

    120 hours / 24 hours per day = 5 days. I get home at 7 a.m. on Saturday morning and don't return to work until Monday morning.

    Belpre takes the weekend runs, cuz he needs the extra money!

    I get paid 50 cpm cuz I'm Snowman (or CFM, Lebron James, Belpre or others) and .50 X 3960 miles = $1980/wk!! A half penny more per mile makes it an even $2000.

    My wife lives right next to my home terminal, so I get a WHOLE 10 hours off with her and the brats every 32.75 hours (twice each workweek).... and two full days on weekends!

    Don't TELL me that jobs like this don't exist, cuz I hear people here on CAD bragging about such things nearly every day!

    I'm sure Blake can FIND such a job, cuz he has a jodge in his pocket! Just kidding ya, Blake!

    Oh.... and if I only take a 34 hour restart, I can do an extra leg per week, which means I only have to make 43 cpm, and J.B. Hunt will promise you THAT!

    But, that would mess up my circadian rhythm... AND my line 5 time!
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    I see the Rev couldn't resist doing the math, either!

    But, he had to drive faster and get more miles cuz he didn't get paid as much! He should get one of these cushy LTL jobs!
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    well i am not doing it and i see that is what some of you are thinking
    i am not a trucker i just wanted to know if it was possible thats all but thanks
    i am calling in today and i start school next monday

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    Fueling...Pretrip...posttrip...is only .50 hr since you only need to show 15 miutes of line 4 for 1 of the two ...also depending on what the company allows you can combine pretrip or post trip with things like fueling if situation permits .

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    Why is it when a driver asks how he/she can run 4k or more solo at .28 cpm I'm always reminded of the scene from the john candy movie armed and dangerous where they were discussing hours an pay.

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    Hobo the most senior guys at an LTL barn can and do get close. Our top pay is .56 cpm plus dont forget we get 22.50/hr for D/H, fuel, waitng, breakdown etc. The longest runs are usually in the 500-600 mi range and they do the same run every night. Now the bottom feeders like me might get next to nothing, might get 2900 in a week if we're swamped, or if it is a schedule its probably in the 300-400 mi range. Those top guys do take alot of vacations and someone has to cover their run! But all the little hourly time adds up too. I dont personally know any that made 104k but I know many top 90k. (I suck hind *** and I do 60k! LOL). Before evryone gets their panties in a bunch I aint braggin I'm just trying to share a little info. I know people are interested just from the PM's I get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake1984 View Post

    now the reason i am asking 1 need more money and 2 my cousin maid 1500usd one week so its not too far to get the rest
    Sounds pretty reasonable Blake, thats 750 each.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman7 View Post
    Hobo the most senior guys at an LTL barn can and do get close. Our top pay is .56 cpm plus dont forget we get 22.50/hr for D/H, fuel, waitng, breakdown etc. The longest runs are usually in the 500-600 mi range and they do the same run every night. Now the bottom feeders like me might get next to nothing, might get 2900 in a week if we're swamped, or if it is a schedule its probably in the 300-400 mi range. Those top guys do take alot of vacations and someone has to cover their run! But all the little hourly time adds up too. I dont personally know any that made 104k but I know many top 90k. (I suck hind *** and I do 60k! LOL). Before evryone gets their panties in a bunch I aint braggin I'm just trying to share a little info. I know people are interested just from the PM's I get.
    I was going to say until I read this post that the only way I could venture that someone could turn $2K in one week would most probably be on a Teamster job.

    I've made just over $1800(gross pay) in one 7 day week, lots of hourly stuff included....but even still after that week was over....I was FRIED and didn't even want to think about working any more for a couple of days.

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    It is certainly possible to make $2000 in one week. You will not do it by running 7000 miles in one week, though. When times were good it was not difficult at all to make that hauling some cars around. Granted those 14-18 hours days sucked sometimes, but it sure beat sitting around at a truckstop waiting for a load.

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    You can definitely make $2k per week hauling cars. The problem was not making that much each week, the problem was the number of weeks worked being near the bottom of the seniority list. In 1997 I earned over $48k for the year while working less then six months. The union companies pay holiday pay at over $19 hr. for 8 hours and if you worked it was 12 hrs. at $19 hr. plus your trip pay at $1.04 per mile(that was over ten years ago) company driver. Union bennies weren't bad either! It was nothing to make $450 - $550 a day before the non union companies began hauling cars for peanuts.

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