Sorey Guy's, but another Gun question.

[dogface]

OK, This subject has been hashed out allot, and I am not trying to get a second amendment thread going so I will put the question like this, Say you are an owner operator and you drive New York to L.A. . You are pull in to weigh and you are told to pull around because the mud flap has fallen off the truck and your tractor is dirty and for what ever reason it becomes inspection time. It is discovered that you are in possession of a perfectly legal fire arm by the powers that be. How is this going to go for a fellow in this situation ? Is he going to be sent on his way ? or will he be given a hard time.

[Rev.Vassago]

How is this going to go for a fellow in this situation ? Is he going to be sent on his way ? or will he be given a hard time.

It depends upon a few things:

1. Does the driver have a permit to carry the gun?
2. Does the jurisdiction where the driver is stopped honor that permit?

[golfhobo]

I say shoot the officer, run like heck, repaint your truck, and change your name! Oh, and to keep them from following you..... open your doors and let all the hazmat ping pong balls flood the road behind you!

Oh.... were you looking for a serious answer? Sorry, I don't have one. I can't see any reason to HAVE a gun in a truck.

I would say that if you carried a gun in your truck without knowing the ramifications in EACH state, OR the federal level, you would be asking for trouble.

That's the problem with SOME gun owners. They WANT one, but they don't know the regulations.

I'm NOT referring to you. I don't KNOW you. I'm just answering your post to attract the golfhobo haters!

[dogface]

Hm, Lets say torn down and in the space under the sleeper.

[dogface]

I say shoot the officer, run like heck, repaint your truck, and change your name! Oh, and to keep them from following you..... open your doors and let all the hazmat ping pong balls flood the road behind you!

Oh.... were you looking for a serious answer? Sorry, I don't have one. I can't see any reason to HAVE a gun in a truck.

I would say that if you carried a gun in your truck without knowing the ramifications in EACH state, OR the federal level, you would be asking for trouble.

That's the problem with SOME gun owners. They WANT one, but they don't know the regulations.

I'm NOT referring to you. I don't KNOW you. I'm just answering your post to attract the golfhobo haters!

This was painfull. Thank you. Me when I drove over the road (LTL now) i talked about this. I feel that if a driver was assulted in his sleeper and cut loose at billy bob crack head that those bullets he fired would zip right threw 4 or 5 tractors and possibly hit a sleeping driver. I dont like guns in trucks, BUT ! I do like my pit bull Buster and the stun gun that my dog is named after.

[golfhobo]

This was painfull. Thank you.

Well, I didn't MEAN for it to be painfull, and still don't see how it WAS. Like I said, I was just havin' some fun.

I agree with you about how a mis-aimed shot could cause collateral damage. And that could be damaging to one's career AND their emotional state. Things are "tight" in a truckstop!

I've never been accosted in my sleeper by Billy Bob crackhead, who somehow picked the LOCK on my door, but if I had, I would think that Buster could keep him busy long enough for me to come out of the bunk and kick his AZZ right through the windshield!

I'm not a violent man, but I will NOT be abused. IF the perp had a gun, I don't believe for one minute that I will have time to get to mine in time to shoot him. I'm going to try something else.... and QUICK!

Most people that have a gun while accosting you are overconfident. They don't expect that you will do something irrational like GRAB them, or KICK them. Assuming you HEAR them entering your truck, you (as a driver) will KNOW that they are struggling to find a handhold to pull themselves up into the truck. This is when they are vulnerable. They can't possibly be pointing the gun at you while struggling to get UP and INTO a CMV!

I suggest you don't "lead" with your HEAD! They MIGHT get an errant shot off. Whatever you do, don't back up and let them get IN the truck! I think a right leg "roundhouse" (is that the right term?) would catch him full in the face as he was trying to climb up, (and is easy to do from the bunk/cab opening) and put him flat on his back on the ground! After that, you're on your own. But, I would haul azz out the passenger door and roll under at least two trailers before getting up and running like HECK!

OR you could stand there and have a shoot out! You might WIN.... but, then you'll have to go to court to defend yourself on a murder charge. Sure, you might prove that he was IN your truck, but what if you lost? Jail time.

[Skywalker]

I agree with "golfhobo". Him give plenty smart answer. I don't hate him, him good dude.

Me, I keep my "tire thumper" right where I can reach it without moving more than my arm..... its legal in all 50 states......

[GMAN]

This was painfull. Thank you. Me when I drove over the road (LTL now) i talked about this. I feel that if a driver was assulted in his sleeper and cut loose at billy bob crack head that those bullets he fired would zip right threw 4 or 5 tractors and possibly hit a sleeping driver. I dont like guns in trucks, BUT ! I do like my pit bull Buster and the stun gun that my dog is named after.

It depends on the type of shell you use. Some will pretty much disintegrate when they hit something. I just bought some new shells that will do that. My old ones would just keep on going after hitting something. If someone is that close there is no reason to miss them.

[GMAN]

Me, I keep my "tire thumper" right where I can reach it without moving more than my arm..... its legal in all 50 states......

A tire thumper could still be considered a deadly weapon. Shoot to kill or the perpetrator can come back on you and not only have you charged for assault, but file a lawsuit against you and take everything you own. A corpse can't sue anyone.

[Skywalker]

A tire thumper could still be considered a deadly weapon. Shoot to kill or the perpetrator can come back on you and not only have you charged for assault, but file a lawsuit against you and take everything you own. A corpse can't sue anyone.

Be that as it may..... even a finger nail file can be considered a deadly weapon, and regardless of the weapon, in the litigious society we live in....you can expect to have the survivors or the estate sue you, so yes....a corpse can sue you. Sucks, but its the truth. I prefer the Florida law regarding the use of deadly force....

[Windwalker]

Regardless if you have a weapon or not, if you're going to resist someone that is armed, you had better have better response time than your imagination. Something I learned many, many years ago. It takes 4 seconds to disarm a man. It only takes 1 second to kill him. That's with your bare hands. But, it takes at least 2 seconds for you to realize what the situation is. In that time, he can put 3 shots into you.

Generally, anyone that has a weapon to use against an armed intruder will hesitate before acting to make sure they aren't making a mistake. They "second-guess" themselves. That hesitation is usually their undoing.

Somewhere, I read that any kind of club, tire thumper, or anything like that is considered a lethal weapon if it has a leather or nylon strap that you can put your wrist through. If it has not strap, it is not considered a weapon. Don't know if I really want to test that. But, if someone comes into my truck, my 3 pound hammer over the head is likely to knock him into the middle of next year.

[ct77]

I can't see any reason to HAVE a gun in a truck.

I ll bet Reginald Denney could give you a good one, but then again i always wonder why he didnt floor it.

[got mud?]

I ll bet Reginald Denney could give you a good one, but then again i always wonder why he didnt floor it.

maybe he was "new" and had to stop to find first after missing a gear.

[got mud?]

OK, This subject has been hashed out allot, and I am not trying to get a second amendment thread going so I will put the question like this, Say you are an owner operator and you drive New York to L.A. . You are pull in to weigh and you are told to pull around because the mud flap has fallen off the truck and your tractor is dirty and for what ever reason it becomes inspection time. It is discovered that you are in possession of a perfectly legal fire arm by the powers that be. How is this going to go for a fellow in this situation ? Is he going to be sent on his way ? or will he be given a hard time.

in most states (I can't say all for sure) you can carry a gun in your vehicle as long as it is unloaded and the amo is stored away from the gun. some states require that the driver not be able to reach the gun. if I was this owner I would also carry a locking gun case. throw the gun in the case and lock it and put it in the sleeper and put the mag in the glove box just before going inside.

Don't get me wrong, I am a gun person. I own plenty and am all about the right to own and even carry. I have never felt the need to have one with me while out on the road. if you do feel the need maybe you need to reconsider where it is you are parking for the night.

one of the problems with caring a gun is now every where you go there is a gun present. have you practiced close quarter combat with a firearm. weapons retention techniques (after all if the "bad guy" didn't have a gun before, he does now if you don't know how to keep it.) are you absolutly sure that you could pull the trigger and take another mans life if and when the time came? (most people can't) if you can't answer yes to all those questions then you really shouldn't be carrying a firearm.

I have a lot of self defense training and I can honestly say that in a situation like a CMV a gun wouldn't be my first choice of protection. its really not worth the legal hassles either.

[repete]

A tire thumper could still be considered a deadly weapon. Shoot to kill or the perpetrator can come back on you and not only have you charged for assault, but file a lawsuit against you and take everything you own. A corpse can't sue anyone.

NEVER-EVER shoot to kill!! You shoot and keep shooting to STOP THE ATTACK, if someone ends up dead then the attack is over. You have to think about after the shooting and it's all about CYA cause if you don't some ambulance chasing pos lawyer will make mince-meat out of you.

As far as carring in your truck all 48 states have different laws along with some cities and towns get cought by the wrong person and at best you'll lose your gun at worse jail time.

[kc0iv]

NEVER-EVER shoot to kill!! You shoot and keep shooting to STOP THE ATTACK, if someone ends up dead then the attack is over. You have to think about after the shooting and it's all about CYA cause if you don't some ambulance chasing pos lawyer will make mince-meat out of you.

As far as carring in your truck all 48 states have different laws along with some cities and towns get cought by the wrong person and at best you'll lose your gun at worse jail time.

I'd say that is a poor response.

If you have to shoot any good instructor will tell you to shoot for the "center of mass." And shoot twice.

It may work on TV to just wing the bad guy but that is not what you should do in real life.

If a firearm is required then use deadly force.

kc0iv

[golfhobo]

If you have to shoot any good instructor .....

Why would I want to shoot a GOOD instructor when there are so many Swifty trainers with their HUGE badges to aim for??

[Windwalker]

OK, This subject has been hashed out allot, and I am not trying to get a second amendment thread going so I will put the question like this, Say you are an owner operator and you drive New York to L.A. . You are pull in to weigh and you are told to pull around because the mud flap has fallen off the truck and your tractor is dirty and for what ever reason it becomes inspection time. It is discovered that you are in possession of a perfectly legal fire arm by the powers that be. How is this going to go for a fellow in this situation ? Is he going to be sent on his way ? or will he be given a hard time.

The only time that I can envision a situation when you would have a firearm in your truck and it would be perfectly legal would be if you were to carry refined nuclear matterial. Something like fuel rods for nuclear power plants, or nuclear warheads going to a military ammo depot. Something that could be used to build a bomb. Then, you would be under the same rules as military personal. You would also go through a kind of "boot camp" before you ever start to drive, and periodically, you would go through a refresher course.

That is the only situation that I know of where you would be carrying a weapon in the truck and it would be "perfectly legal". I also doubt very much that you would ever get pulled around back and your truck searched. One of the locations would AMERICAN REFINERS in southern Ohio, and there are also trucks carrying nuclear materials in Kansas that I know of. Beyond that, most companies will not keep you on if they find out that you are carrying a weapon in your truck. Get pulled around back and show them all the required documents, and they'll very likely let the company know and you get canned. You want to risk that?