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    Can someone please cite the regulation not permitting a concealed or open carry weapon in a CMV. Thanks.
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    There's no federal regulation against it. However, you have to have permits for each and every location that you'll be travelling through for the handgun. Also, some locations flat out deny any handgun permits, so you're screwed if you get caught with one in those locations.

    Also, the carrier you drive for have their own rules that you must follow. If they say no weapons, it's as simple as that - no weapons.

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    That's what I thought. Thanks.
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    Well,

    What they dont know dont hurt'em!

    Having a small glock or kimber would be hard to find!
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    Indeed, sparks...would be very hard to find...

    Which would make that felony weapons charge you incur if they DO find it suck that much more!:cry:

    On edit: wikipedia has a pretty good page on state by state gun laws. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law...ates_(by_state)

    Looks like the vast majority of states wouldn't give you a hard time about it...but I'm sure there are places that would.....
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    Oh ,never mind... I miss-read the thread topic ,And though this was about getting something else in a CMV .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malaki86 View Post
    There's no federal regulation against it. However, you have to have permits for each and every location that you'll be travelling through for the handgun. Also, some locations flat out deny any handgun permits, so you're screwed if you get caught with one in those locations.

    Also, the carrier you drive for have their own rules that you must follow. If they say no weapons, it's as simple as that - no weapons.
    31 states recognize a Ut. permit and most of the rest honor a Fl. permit(except NY) I have a NY and in the process of getting the out of state UT permit

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    38 states recognize a NC permit, I hear its one of the best to have.
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    Here's another good link:

    http://www.handgunlaw.us/

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomB985 View Post
    Indeed, sparks...would be very hard to find...

    Which would make that felony weapons charge you incur if they DO find it suck that much more!:cry:

    On edit: wikipedia has a pretty good page on state by state gun laws. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law...ates_(by_state)

    Looks like the vast majority of states wouldn't give you a hard time about it...but I'm sure there are places that would.....
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    I got mine regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparks280zt View Post
    Better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6!
    Could not agree with you more however the likelihood of you using a firearm to protect your life or someone else is far less than the chance you would accidentally reveal your firearm and some anti-gun person would turn you in. And if that happens in a place like California or Maryland may god have mercy on your soul.
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    http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/Federal/Read.aspx?id=60




    A provision of federal law serves as a defense to state or local laws which would prohibit the passage of persons with firearms in interstate travel.

    Notwithstanding any state or local law, a person shall be entitled to transport a firearm from any place where he may lawfully possess and transport such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and transport such firearm if the firearm is unloaded and in the trunk. In vehicles without a trunk, the unloaded firearm shall be in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marylandkw View Post
    Could not agree with you more however the likelihood of you using a firearm to protect your life or someone else is far less than the chance you would accidentally reveal your firearm and some anti-gun person would turn you in. And if that happens in a place like California or Maryland may God have mercy on your soul.

    Fixed your typo

    1. Anti gun persons....to prevent the accidental discovery or snitchin' by others, remember the three S's and apply them as needed to protect yourself, your family or property...

    Shoot

    Shovel

    Shut up

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    Sigmund Freud: "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." ("General Introduction to Psychoanalysis," S. Freud)

    Admiral Yamamoto: "You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Advising Japan's military leaders of the futility of an invasion of the mainland United States because of the widespread availability of guns. It has been theorized that this was a major contributing factor in Japan's decision not to land on North America early in the war when they had vastly superior military strength. This delay gave our industrial infrastructure time to gear up for the conflict and was decisive in our later victory.

    Mao Tse Tung: "All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party." (Problems of War and Strategy, Nov 6 1938, published in "Selected Works of Mao Zedong," 1965)

    John F. Kennedy: "Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom."

    Larry Elder: "A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders."

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    Regardless of laws, many carriers forbid carrying a firearm in their vehichles, and many shippers / receivers do not allow weapons on their property.

    Just sayin'.

    Some drivers are going to do whatever they are going to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG JEEP on 44's View Post
    Oh ,never mind... I miss-read the thread topic ,And though this was about getting something else in a CMV .
    LOL Big Jeep!

    I'm just surprised that Golfhobo hasn't found it necessary to share some of his misguidance on this subject! (or maybe I should have left well enough alone)

    I have always been of the opinion that what the US needs is truck drivers armed with handguns wandering around the country. (then I usually snap right out of my temporary dementia)

    Why not truck drivers armed with handguns, and coolers full of beer?
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    I own several pistols, and some other guns as well....but none of them "travel" with me. In 15 years, I've never found the need for one. Been to some pretty dicey places...but still don't feel the need. Besides, every company says "NO". I've crossed into Canada too many times....never been searched, but I'll bet an internet buck that Canadian or US Customs could find it, if I was foolish enough to carry one.

    The greater question is this: If you carry one, and you show it, are you bold enough to use it? Can you really shoot to kill? Are you willing to go down that road? Its easy to say yes.... but in reality, a lot of people who think they can defend themselves with a gun, show it then don't use it, and they then either lose the gun to the bad guy who shoots them and keeps the gun, or just get shot.

    Personally, as the old saying "Discretion is the better part of valor" says....is it not better to be more discrete and careful so as to not find yourself in a situation that would require deadly force?

    Yes, I know....there is always that "one time" thing.....but even in that instance, could you bring the gun to bear and prevail?

    People are going to do what they are going to do.......
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    Interesting post, Skywalker...

    I remember you used to drive for CFI/CWTL, right? I remember someone in orientation asked that question, whether or not there was a company policy...I remember him saying that CWTL had nothing against it, if it was legal.

    That being said, I've gotten false information from this same guy before...so not sure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomB985 View Post
    Interesting post, Skywalker...

    I remember you used to drive for CFI/CWTL, right? I remember someone in orientation asked that question, whether or not there was a company policy...I remember him saying that CWTL had nothing against it, if it was legal.

    That being said, I've gotten false information from this same guy before...so not sure...
    I drove for CFI prior to the purchase by Conway. The CFI Employee Handbook had a very specific "prohibition" in it regarding firearms. On the other hand.... I knew of a couple of guys who did carry, but they were well aware of the fact that if there was a problem and they got into trouble for the weapons, that the written prohibition by the company would serve to pretty much indemnify the company and be the first step in a "hold harmless" defense in the event of litigation after the fact.

    As to CWTL's policy.....I have no idea, and would be leery of anyone's statements.... I'd prefer to get it from the "horse's mouth". And since I have to presume that their trucks still enter Canada......I can't see them allowing it to happen. CWTL's Employee Manual should spell it out.

    Sorry I can't be more help....
    Forrest Gump was right....and some people literally strive to prove it.....everyday. Strive not to be one of "them".... And "lemmings" are a dime a dozen!

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