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Thread: Rule that door must be closed?

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    Default Rule that door must be closed?

    Recently I was approached by the safety department manager and told that an DOT officer had called claiming that one teams member was in violation of DOT rules. He was driving a 48 van with roll up doors and lift gate. The offense was running with the trailer roll up doors open and this was a violation of the rules. The driver was not stopped but I was wondering if anyone had any insight into which rule this might have broken?

    The load was secure and with the lift gate in the up/folded position would have prevented any cargo from flying out under normal circumstances, even if the load straps/lock failed.

    I have seen some local drivers have the swinging doors open when moving between stops, on the road, and I can see how this is dangerous but what safety violation would a roll up door cause?

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    I think there was a post on here not too long about about another guy that got nailed for having a roll-up door up. Not sure what the regulation number is, but I'm sure it exists.

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    §398.4 Driving of motor vehicles.

    (g)(2) Doors, tarpaulins, tailgates and other equipment. No motor vehicle shall be driven unless the tailgate, tailboard, tarpaulins, doors, all equipment and rigging used in the operation of said vehicle, and all means of fastening the load, are securely in place.

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    Thanks for the information. Not what I wanted to hear but usefully anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
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    §398.4 Driving of motor vehicles.

    (g)(2) Doors, tarpaulins, tailgates and other equipment. No motor vehicle shall be driven unless the tailgate, tailboard, tarpaulins, doors, all equipment and rigging used in the operation of said vehicle, and all means of fastening the load, are securely in place.
    Right answer, but wrong reg. Unless the O.P's company is transporting Migrant Workers!

    The correct reg, with identical wording, is 392.9(a)(2).

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfhobo
    Right answer, but wrong reg. Unless the O.P's company is transporting Migrant Workers!
    He is, so you can just shush on the subject.

    Still awaiting your response in the other thread....

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    I see Coke guys do this all the time around the Huston I-79 area...I always thought it looked kinda shakey...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jailed View Post
    Recently I was approached by the safety department manager and told that an DOT officer had called claiming that one teams member was in violation of DOT rules. He was driving a 48 van with roll up doors and lift gate. The offense was running with the trailer roll up doors open and this was a violation of the rules. The driver was not stopped but I was wondering if anyone had any insight into which rule this might have broken?

    The load was secure and with the lift gate in the up/folded position would have prevented any cargo from flying out under normal circumstances, even if the load straps/lock failed.

    I have seen some local drivers have the swinging doors open when moving between stops, on the road, and I can see how this is dangerous but what safety violation would a roll up door cause?

    While the "snobs" gave you the specific reg numbers....The simple answer to an open door is "unsecured" cargo. The door being open means no securement.
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