Log Required ??

[baileydale]

Can someone point me to the regs that state when a log is required. I have taken a part time gig running a single axle 22'box refer for a food company. I very seldon have over 5000 lbs and once every two weeks I have about 19500 lbs. Truck is licensed for 36k I believe. I have one run everyother week that exceeds 100 miles (its around 150 )
Thanks

[RebelDarlin]

Will you be crossing State Lines? If not intrastate regs apply, check with your State. Is a CDL required to drive the vehicle you will be driving? If not, then no logs are needed.


Shouldn't you be asking your employer what they require?

[Rat]

I am not positive but I think that the limit is 33,000 lbs.

[Uturn2001]

395.1

You will pretty much need to read the entire thing. There are a lot of if various requirements that must be met in a few different situations to allow a RODS not to be required.

[marylandkw]

Is a CDL required to drive the vehicle you will be driving?

Truck is licensed for 36k I believe

Anything over 26,001 pounds requires a CDL.

[RebelDarlin]

Is a CDL required to drive the vehicle you will be driving?

Truck is licensed for 36k I believe

Anything over 26,001 pounds requires a CDL.

I have taken a part time gig running a single axle 22'box refer for a food company. I very seldon have over 5000 lbs and once every two weeks I have about 19500 lbs. Truck is licensed for 36k I believe.

He doesn't seem to be very sure of what he's driving, that's why I asked. When you end the sentence with the words "I believe" I think that means he doesn't KNOW for sure.

[GMAN]

It isn't the weight of the cargo but the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the truck that determines whether you need to have a CDL. If you drive a truck that has a GVWR of 33,000 pounds, you need to have a CDL. Go to the fmcsa website and read the requirements.

[thebaldeagle655]

It isn't the weight of the cargo but the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the truck that determines whether you need to have a CDL. If you drive a truck that has a GVWR of 33,000 pounds, you need to have a CDL. Go to the fmcsa website and read the requirements.

Actually GMAN, you are right but wrong, part 390 under definitions states

Commercial motor vehicle means any self-propelled or towed motor vehicle used on a highway in interstate commerce to transport passengers or property when the vehicle—

(1) Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating, or gross vehicle weight or gross combination weight, of 4,536 kg (10,001 pounds) or more, whichever is greater; or

Since his question was about a log book, not a CDL, yes he needs a log book.

No CDL required for less than 26,001 lbs BUT, if you cross state lines and GVRW is over 10,001 COMBINAtION, you need to run a Log Book, have a DOT #, and insurance. Don't really know about the medical card or drug testing though.

I have 1st hand knowledge about this one, got popped by DOT with a 3/4 ton pickup pulling a gooseneck trailer crossing state lines!

[HWD]

It isn't the weight of the cargo but the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the truck that determines whether you need to have a CDL. If you drive a truck that has a GVWR of 33,000 pounds, you need to have a CDL. Go to the fmcsa website and read the requirements.

Actually GMAN, you are right but wrong, part 390 under definitions states

Commercial motor vehicle means any self-propelled or towed motor vehicle used on a highway in interstate commerce to transport passengers or property when the vehicle—

(1) Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating, or gross vehicle weight or gross combination weight, of 4,536 kg (10,001 pounds) or more, whichever is greater; or

Since his question was about a log book, not a CDL, yes he needs a log book.

No CDL required for less than 26,001 lbs BUT, if you cross state lines and GVRW is over 10,001 COMBINAtION, you need to run a Log Book, have a DOT #, and insurance. Don't really know about the medical card or drug testing though.

I have 1st hand knowledge about this one, got popped by DOT with a 3/4 ton pickup pulling a gooseneck trailer crossing state lines!

To split hairs even further, you are required to have a CDL if you're placarded for hazmat - regardless of GVWR.

[rigidsporty]

I was in food service delivery over a year ago (my back still hurts) driving trucks that required a Class A CDL (see pic below), rarely going past the 100 mile limit, and occasionally crossing state lines... but the only time I was required to fill out a logbook was when I worked over 12 hours (which means I filled one out a lot!)

[GMAN]

I was in a scale in New Jersey a few years ago when a guy was pulled in pulling a small box truck. It had about a 12' box on it. He argued with the DOT guy that he didn't need a log book because he wasn't traveling that far and had a small truck. He was out of Baltimore. He got a ticket because he was crossing state lines. And as far as I know you cannot get your CDL without having a current DOT physical.