Alcohol and OTR

[Rev.Vassago]

I was going to ask if you were REALLY this childish, Bel.... but your avatar answers that question.

I MAY need an extension, BTW. The Rev is furiously working on your behalf, but it seems I am not allowed to edit any post more than a few days old.

Don't you hate it when that happens?

Why would you need to edit a post to make a statement?

[golfhobo]

Why would you need to edit a post to make a statement?

Perhaps, because I can't copy and paste from it.

I like to keep my options open.

[Rev.Vassago]

In other words, you're going to post one of those long, drawn out excuses, rather than just admit you were wrong?

Methinks Belpre will not be happy....

[golfhobo]

In other words, you're going to post one of those long, drawn out excuses, rather than just admit you were wrong?

Methinks Belpre will not be happy....

Belpre will NEVER be happy! [And you misread me if you think I really care.]

I haven't decided yet exactly, Rev. I intend to admit WHERE I was wrong, but not everything I posted about the subject WAS wrong.

You may not agree with that, but then you have never agreed that .04 in a POV won't get you a DUI. ..... and I don't see Bel ragging YOUR azz about it! (perhaps, being wrong doesn't count as long as it ERRS on the prudish side.)

I will TRY to keep it shorter than usual, but I wouldn't bet your truck on it. If Bel is not satisfied with what I say, then he can repost his siglines, and will have succeeded in something YOU have never accomplished.

If Bel's intent (which I share) is to not have a post on here that would give incorrect or possibly damaging advice to a new driver who may read "IT" and not some "other" post, then NOT having the ability to "edit" that post is a hindrance.

Heck... without the "edit" function available, I could not even DELETE the whole thing if I wanted to... which I don't. And with (what appears to be only) MY incapacity to copy and paste from it, my task is more difficult. [Don't worry, I can still "quote" the post, then copy it to notepad, and paste what I want from it into a NEW post.) Like I said, I like to have options.

[Rev.Vassago]

I like the idea of it staying. It not only shows how you changed your mind about it, but that you actually did.

[golfhobo]

I like the idea of it staying. It not only shows how you changed your mind about it, but that you actually did.

I can appreciate that, Rev. Which is why I wanted to "edit" it to highlight in RED the parts that I wanted to modify. I had no intention of deleting parts of it and claiming I never said them. (and I could have shortened it by deleting irrelevant paragraphs.)

If you read the whole thread, you will find points where I "allowed" for things I was not sure of, or might be open to altering my stance on. When I, and the discussion, got to the point that I wanted to DO that, YOU begged me NOT to, with an added insult. So, I left it. I see now that that was a mistake. Yet, YOU are on Bel's bandwagon to harrass me over it. Your duplicity in the matter reflects your character.

I said alooooong time ago, that I am capable of changing my mind if given facts and/or opinions that warrant it. And unlike you, I am capable of admitting when I am wrong. When you grow up, you might yet become such a man.... but, if I ever buy a truck, I won't bet it on that possibility.

[Rev.Vassago]

I can appreciate that, Rev. Which is why I wanted to "edit" it to highlight in RED the parts that I wanted to modify. I had no intention of deleting parts of it and claiming I never said them. (and I could have shortened it by deleting irrelevant paragraphs.)

That would only serve to rewrite history, and would ruin the discussion.

If you read the whole thread, you will find points where I "allowed" for things I was not sure of, or might be open to altering my stance on. When I, and the discussion, got to the point that I wanted to DO that, YOU begged me NOT to, with an added insult. So, I left it. I see now that that was a mistake. Yet, YOU are on Bel's bandwagon to harrass me over it. Your duplicity in the matter reflects your character.

I'm not aware of where I've been "harassing" you over anything. I would also say it is a stretch to claim that Belpre has been "harassing" you also. At best, he's "ribbing" you. The fact that you claim to have "allowed for things you weren't sure of" means that the need for editing is even less.

I said alooooong time ago, that I am capable of changing my mind if given facts and/or opinions that warrant it. And unlike you, I am capable of admitting when I am wrong.

I'm never wrong, so it is a non-issue for me.

[golfhobo]

Rev.Vassago said:

That would only serve to rewrite history, and would ruin the discussion.

I don't see how, under the terms I have stated of leaving the original intact. But, whatever. I have no problem copying large amounts of text and then commenting on them. (even though I will have to circumvent the obvious deficiencies of this board software.) That is why I told Bel I would need more time.

I'm not aware of where I've been "harassing" you over anything.

You never ARE. And without the ability to copy and paste freely, it is not worth my effort to prove what MOST on here know is true.

I would also say it is a stretch to claim that Belpre has been "harassing" you also. At best, he's "ribbing" you.

Yet you cried over my sigline, (and one that ironeagle must have made at some point,) and claimed it showed an "obsession." "Ribbing" someone, within the thread concerned, is one thing. Following someone all over the board, with sometimes NO purpose OTHER than to say to some other poster, "Hey, did you notice my SIGLINE?" is at LEAST obsession, if not "harrassment." The fact that you don't recognize that, bodes ill for your qualifications as a Mod. But, based on some of the comments I've received, that would not be a surprise. It almost pains me that I defended your "selection."

The fact that you claim to have "allowed for things you weren't sure of" means that the need for editing is even less.

And, therefore, any need for retraction.

I'm never wrong, so it is a non-issue for me.

You are OFTEN wrong, and I've proved that. But, like I said.... one can be wrong as often as they like, and mislead noobies all day long, as long as they don't cross the line of prudishness that some of you hold so sacred.

It would not surprise me to learn that you, and several others here, are card-carrying members of Pulbic Citizen, PATT, CRASH or some of the other organizations that want to impose their morality and viewpoints on the Trucking Industry. The fact that this is the number one trucker board SHOULD cause one to think that they would have infiltrated us by now.

I know that is Orwellian in nature, but.... the thought has not escaped me. And I found it amusing, so I added it to this post.

[Rev.Vassago]

Yet you cried over my sigline,

Hardly.

The fact that you don't recognize that, bodes ill for your qualifications as a Mod. But, based on some of the comments I've received, that would not be a surprise. It almost pains me that I defended your "selection."

Don't even go there.

The fact that you claim to have "allowed for things you weren't sure of" means that the need for editing is even less.

And, therefore, any need for retraction.

Then perhaps you should retract your agreement to make one. Just sayin'.

[dobry4u]

Rev.Vassago said:



I don't see how, under the terms I have stated of leaving the original intact. But, whatever. I have no problem copying large amounts of text and then commenting on them. (even though I will have to circumvent the obvious deficiencies of this board software.) That is why I told Bel I would need more time.



You never ARE. And without the ability to copy and paste freely, it is not worth my effort to prove what MOST on here know is true.



Yet you cried over my sigline, (and one that ironeagle must have made at some point,) and claimed it showed an "obsession." "Ribbing" someone, within the thread concerned, is one thing. Following someone all over the board, with sometimes NO purpose OTHER than to say to some other poster, "Hey, did you notice my SIGLINE?" is at LEAST obsession, if not "harrassment." The fact that you don't recognize that, bodes ill for your qualifications as a Mod. But, based on some of the comments I've received, that would not be a surprise. It almost pains me that I defended your "selection."



And, therefore, any need for retraction.



You are OFTEN wrong, and I've proved that. But, like I said.... one can be wrong as often as they like, and mislead noobies all day long, as long as they don't cross the line of prudishness that some of you hold so sacred.

It would not surprise me to learn that you, and several others here, are card-carrying members of Pulbic Citizen, PATT, CRASH or some of the other organizations that want to impose their morality and viewpoints on the Trucking Industry. The fact that this is the number one trucker board SHOULD cause one to think that they would have infiltrated us by now.

I know that is Orwellian in nature, but.... the thought has not escaped me. And I found it amusing, so I added it to this post.

I know how you feel hobo. Couldn't have said it better myself.

[golfhobo]

Rev.Vassago said:

Hardly.

Oh, yes you did. As clearly as I complained about Bel's siglines. You just do it in a different style.

Don't even go there.

I got your PM, Rev. I'm sorry I couldn't respond to it off the board due to the ridiculous restraint on our PM file size. I could post it here, if you'd like. The fact that you seem to have missed is that, I argued FOR your selection. Several times. I posted my email address, which you can take advantage of if you are so inclined. That is the only way we can talk things out under the circumstances. I don't have yours, so it is up to you.

Then perhaps you should retract your agreement to make one.

I just might! Under the current circumstances/threat, I can barely see the reason for the investment of my time.

[belpre122]

I MAY need an extension, BTW.

No problem.

Although I honestly don't know what you mean about Rev working on my behalf, I really don't Hobo. Not at all.

[belpre122]

but it seems I am not allowed to edit any post more than a few days old.

Hobo, I don't think that is just you that can't edit older posts. I was going through some of mine a few days back and noticed that edit capability was not there. Seems as if that is a new feature/function of the board now?

[Rev.Vassago]

Hobo, I don't think that is just you that can't edit older posts. I was going through some of mine a few days back and noticed that edit capability was not there. Seems as if that is a new feature/function of the board now?

It's going to be Monday at the earliest before I can get an answer from IB.

[belpre122]

You Never Even Called Me By My Name

Written By Steve Goodman
As Recorded By David Allan Coe

WELL, IT WAS ALL
THAT I COULD DO TO KEEP FROM CRYING’
SOMETIMES IT SEEMED SO USELESS TO REMAIN
BUT YOU DON’T HAVE TO CALL ME DARLIN’, DARLIN'
YOU NEVER EVEN CALL ME BY MY NAME

YOU DON’T HAVE TO CALL ME WAYLON JENNINGS
AND YOU DON’T HAVE TO CALL ME CHARLIE PRIDE
AND YOU DON’T HAVE TO CALL ME MERLE HAGGARD/ANYMORE
EVEN THOUGH YOU’RE ON MY FIGHTING’ SIDE

CHORUS:
AND I’LL HANG AROUND AS LONG AS YOU WILL LET ME
AND I NEVER MINDED STANDING’ IN THE RAIN
BUT YOU DON’T HAVE TO CALL ME DARLIN’, DARLIN’
YOU NEVER EVEN CALLED ME BY MY NAME

WELL, I’VE HEARD MY NAME
A FEW TIMES IN YOUR PHONE BOOK (Hello, Hello)
AND I’VE SEEN IT ON SIGNS WHERE I’VE PLAYED
BUT THE ONLY TIME I KNOW
I’LL HEAR "DAVID ALLAN COE"
IS WHEN JESUS HAS HIS FINAL JUDGMENT DAY

REPEAT CHORUS

RECITATION:
WELL, A FRIEND OF MINE NAMED STEVE GOODMAN WROTE THAT SONG
AND HE TOLD ME IT WAS THE PERFECT COUNTRY & WESTERN SONG
I WROTE HIM BACK A LETTER AND I TOLD HIM IT WAS NOT THE PERFECT COUNTRY & WESTERN SONG BECAUSE HE HADN’T SAID ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT MAMA,
OR TRAINS,
OR TRUCKS,
OR PRISON,
OR GETTING’ DRUNK
WELL HE SAT DOWN AND WROTE ANOTHER VERSE TO THE SONG
AND HE SENT IT TO ME,
AND AFTER READING IT,
I REALIZED THAT MY FRIEND HAD WRITTEN THE PERFECT
COUNTRY & WESTERN SONG
AND I FELT OBLIGED TO INCLUDE IT ON THIS ALBUM
THE LAST VERSE GOES LIKE THIS HERE:

WELL, I WAS DRUNK THE DAY MY MOM GOT OUT OF PRISON
AND I WENT TO PICK HER UP IN THE RAIN
BUT BEFORE I COULD GET TO THE STATION IN MY PICKUP TRUCK
SHE GOT RUN NED OVER BY A DAMNED OLD TRAIN

CHORUS:
AND I’LL HANG AROUND AS LONG AS YOU WILL LET ME
AND I NEVER MINDED STANDING’ IN THE RAIN
NO, A’ YOU DON’T HAVE TO CALL ME DARLIN’, DARLIN’
YOU NEVER EVEN CALL ME
WELL I WONDER WHY YOU DON’T CALL ME
WHY DON’T YOU EVER CALL ME BY MY NAME

[golfhobo]

Ah yes.... the Line 5 National Anthem! Great song! You should hear me singing harmony on that one! Good Times!

[belpre122]

Ah yes.... the Line 5 National Anthem! Great song! You should hear me singing harmony on that one! Good Times!

LOL I thought that you had probably heard that before Hobo! It must be something in the air............I'm outta here for a couple of hours........going to the corner for some Line 5 time!

[golfhobo]

No problem.

Although I honestly don't know what you mean about Rev working on my behalf, I really don't Hobo. Not at all.

I can't tell if you are kidding or not, Bel. Not without smilies. Your last 3 words make it sound like you are. But, at the risk of further embarrassment, I will explain.

I simply meant that the Rev is efforting an answer, if not a change, to the editing policy. If he succeeds in changing it, I would have no excuse for not answering you on time. So... he is "working on your behalf."

If he fails, or there is no change, then I will have to approach the situation from a different angle (and may need that extension.) But, don't worry.... I am not without abilities.

The fact that I accused him of jumping on your bandwagon notwithstanding, I am NOT saying that he is in any way siding with you, or making it easier on you while harder on me. That was not my intention.

I may have problems with the Rev, but "fairness" is not one of them. He would never use his super powers to side with one poster over another.

[Rev.Vassago]

I find the direction this thread is heading to be extremely hilarious. I'm curious to see if it develops into what I anticipate it will.



(btw, even if I get an explanation as to why the editing time limit has been set, I doubt that a change will develop from it. Just sayin'.)

[belpre122]

So... he is "working on your behalf."

Without a doubt. The most unfair, assuming, nebulous and out of line post that I have ever read on CAD. I tried, I really did..................